Are you not reading the game? I *didn't* vote for you. That was an empty threat to evoke a response. I think you need to reread this page. Seriously. Reread it and start weighing in on the conversation.
In post 822, 4nxi3ty wrote:why not no-lynch, since there is a possibilty of having two scum left?
This is what I ran into the last game. There were 4 of us and we thought we had an SK and a Scum left. It turns out, we only had SK and a "secret" miller [he didn't know he was miller] left. We lost because we didn't lynch the SK. Also, if we *did* have scum with the SK, SK would have killed scum and scum would have killed Town [since SK is almost always BP in order to prevent a nobody wins situation] and Town would have lost anyway.
Are you not reading the game? I *didn't* vote for you. That was an empty threat to evoke a response. I think you need to reread this page. Seriously. Reread it and start weighing in on the conversation.
Didnt say you did. But you were going to if I didn't post in 7 hours. That is what I meant.
In post 828, Senjai wrote:Didnt say you did. But you were going to if I didn't post in 7 hours. That is what I meant.
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Look at the time stamp. I didn't vote for you despite the fact you didn't post for almost a full day. Are you skimming the thread or intentionally lying?
Bulletproof SK would be too much, i think. And if we do have SK, then there is also at least one mafia left, since initial mafia team of goon + tracker is too weak in a kill heavy environment. I don't see how we can figure out who is scum and who is SK, unless someone will confess.
In post 831, kortul wrote:Yates, why you were so reluctant to claim VT?
As stated earlier, I was convinced you and Senjai were scum. I also assumed 4nx was the Doc so when Senjai rred Doc I thought 4nx would counter. When 4nx didn't counter, I didn't see how my VT claim would help Town. I was starting to set up a bomb claim but that would have only [theoretically] saved me over night.
This part:
In post 831, kortul wrote:if we do have SK, then there is also at least one mafia left
I agree with. So we either have an SK and Scum or 1 scum and you are confirmed vig.
To the first part of your argument, I think the opposite *has* to be true. Think about it. Let's say you are SK and Senjai is Scum. Tonight, you kill 4nx and Senjai kills me. How would tomorrow resolve? You would have a no lynch as it would be 1v1 and it would go to night. If it goes to night, you both try to kill each other. Who wins? You cross kill and no one wins the game? No. One of you *has* to be BP.
On the flip side, if there is only 1 scum I have no idea what to do. We can no lynch and let the night resolve itself but my concern is a bad vig shot [if you actually are vig] is exactly the same as if we had an SK and scum left and game over in the morning.
So, I'm trying to weigh the merits of a lynch vs a no lynch based on how many scum parties we actually have left.
1 scum & 1 sk - If we lynch scum we lose via nightkill ergo we no lynch.
1 scum & 1 vig - If we no lynch, vig no kills, we only lose one town ergo we get another day to figure out who is scum with a shorter list of suspects.
Well, it is time to tell the truth. I am not a Vig, but vanilla Neighborizer with a restriction - i can't neighborize players with special abilities. First i tried to neighborize IceNinja, the next day - Descent, and on the third day finally succeed with 4nxi3ty, who is my neighbour now. I neighborized Yates today, we will know the result at night.
4nxi3ty suggested Vig gambit, no one counterclaimed me, so we have no real vig around, just SK + mafia.
Since 4nxi3ty has no special abilities, he can't be SK, and i still believe he is cleared by Descent, so can't be mafia goon either. So Yates and Senjai, this is between you two. Mafia now knows that neither me (neighborizer) nor 4nxi3ty (no special abilities) can be SK, so by method of exclusion will kill SK during the night, and hope that SK won't believe Descent. SK has harder time, but his best chance is still to shoot mafia and hope that mafia will still believe that i am a vig.
It is now night 5, send in your roles ASAP! Night will end in 48 hours, unless every single player expresses a wish to end early, in which case...it will end early
Wow, congratulations to the town! We did it But i agree with Pine, that if Senjai didn't disappear, mafia would win after Yates stubbornly killed me.
Just wondering, Yates, did you really think that Mindgamer would make such strange choices to cure night 1 and 2? And if by some miracle Senjai IS a doctor, he would cure me whether i am Vig or Neighborizer, so shooting me would be pointless.
Also, it would be interesting to see the day/night choices and outcomes.
But i agree with Pine, that if Senjai didn't disappear, mafia would win after Yates stubbornly killed me. 
