Twin Trap (Game Over) [TM2015]

Mina · Post Post #850 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:00 am

I meant this (although you answered part of it):

In post 838, Mina wrote:ETL, can you explain how you went from "I almost put serrapaladin in my towniest town tier" to "I'm not town-reading serrapaladin" to voting his slot? Even if you'd apparently hydra'd with him and known he was lurky, shouldn't that make him at best null or weakly town and not probtown? And if your read was that strong, I don't get why you reversed it now. Also, is your only objection to JF's catch-ups his comment on you?

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #851 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:04 am

mostly his comments on me for now. it takes me some time to process everything. easiest to start with what i know best.

Mina · Post Post #852 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:11 am

Also, can you answer part one of the serra thing?

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #853 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:17 am

In post 852, Mina wrote:Also, can you answer part one of the serra thing?

I did, i thought.. can you be more specific about what you're wanting to know?

Mina · Post Post #854 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:19 am

In post 850, Mina wrote:ETL, can you explain how you went from "I almost put serrapaladin in my towniest town tier" to "I'm not town-reading serrapaladin" to voting his slot? Even if you'd apparently hydra'd with him and known he was lurky, shouldn't that make him at best null or weakly town and not probtown?

You sort of answered the second part. I'm sorry if I'm being pushy, but I'm really having trouble following your thought process, and I'm starting to become frustrated with this game.

Mina · Post Post #855 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:20 am

Um, it's more the last sentence in that quote I want an answer to.

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #856 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:22 am

In post 854, Mina wrote:Even if you'd apparently hydra'd with him and known he was lurky, shouldn't that make him at best null or weakly town and not probtown?

This?

He was probtown, based on his early posting. It was a gut read while I was getting into the game and trying to figure out who I needed to focus on. It became stale but we needed a flip, and then he wasn't around, which prompted me to take a closer look at him, which I did over the night. Then he got replaced and his replacement did nothing to improve the read; he only reinforced the suspicion.

BBmolla · Post Post #857 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:06 am

I don't really like looking at this game cause it's pretty demoralizing

Patrick can we talk about stuff, where do you stand readswise

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #858 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:08 am

In post 857, BBmolla wrote:I don't really like looking at this game cause it's pretty demoralizing

Patrick can we talk about stuff, where do you stand readswise

just vote johnny

BBmolla · Post Post #859 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:15 am

VOTE: Johnny

Mina · Post Post #860 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:20 am

UNVOTE: JohnnyFarrar

Mina · Post Post #861 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:22 am

Sorry, I'm a killjoy.

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #862 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:23 am

interesting.

Mina · Post Post #863 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:24 am

It's the least interesting thing ever. Putting him at L-1 right now is dumb.

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #864 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:25 am

In post 863, Mina wrote:It's the least interesting thing ever. Putting him at L-1 right now is dumb.

not really.

BBmolla · Post Post #865 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:26 am

Didn't realize he was at l-1

But I don't expect thT to be believed

Shrug

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #866 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:30 am

I mean it woulda been funny if scum quickhammered

Mina · Post Post #867 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:31 am

ETL, certain people have done nothing today, and he hasn't finished his catch-up. I don't want a Alchemist Pt. 2. We can wait. What's your rush?

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #868 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:41 am

In post 867, Mina wrote:ETL, certain people have done nothing today, and he hasn't finished his catch-up. I don't want a Alchemist Pt. 2. We can wait. What's your rush?

I like lynching scum. But really I don't have a rush. It was more about you.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #869 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:58 am

Quil is laying it on so thick. Reading day two is gonna be funny or sad. Angry catbug made me laugh though.

Patrick is sooooooo boooooooring. All of his reads are great and well thought out and logical in a way that tells me nothing about his alignment at all.

BB's deafness to those who disagree with him is annoying. Forget what I said about Espy sucking in lylo, BB would ruin lylo for town. His stance that my slot is scum regardless of Alch lynch given between pages 24 and 25 combined with his "I'm not voting anyone but Alch today" stance reeks to me of setting up future lynches, which I don't like.

BPC is so hard to read guys

Espy's vote on Mara is pretty damn confusing considering Alch was town. Can't figure out why it happened and the reasons stated are pretty bad.

WOAH NO REASON MARA CLAIM. THE FUCK?

Holy shit the day turned into a disaster after that. Pursuing this and starting a new piece

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #870 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:25 pm

In post 669, Mina wrote:
Alchemist21 wrote:We need to lynch the watch-immune goon today. That's the only way to keep trackerMara alive.
If we lynch the watch-immune goon, the watcher watches you. It would be suicide for the other scum to attack you because they'll get caught.

These two posts might actually be the most damning pieces of evidence against Alchemist, actually.

HE'S TRYING TO WHEEDLE TOWN INTO KEEPING MARA ALIVE.

The fuck is this? Is it a joke?

Holy shit guys I knew the end of that day was a shit show but Alch claimed VT before he fucking left so no one would feel bad about hammering. I'm just fucking sad about this at this point.

@Mina would you characterize yourself as someone who often acts against mob mentality? ALSO CHRIST STOP BEING ALL OVER THE MAP (this is me freaking out about your ETL flip thing in 760

Alch's 753 is another good argument for Quil town. That read's probably not going away.

DAY ONE END #postit

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #871 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:52 pm

So hey, apart from this nagging inability to read, I'm here and caught up and healthy and ready to play.

Will answer any questions regarding my predecessor that I can, but the best defense I can give him is that, looking at this team chat, he was genuinely busy.

So here's where my head is: Everyone should talk out your reads. I don't want to just lay down and take the lynch today because there are at least three people in this game that would make lylo a nightmare and if like to spare whichever poor bastards make it that far from that pain.

For me, until we talk it out more I'd be most comfortable lynching from a pool of BPC, BB, Mina, or Espy. Patrick just hasn't done anything worthy of a scumread despite boring me to death and you can try to convince me that Quil's scum but you'd better have a detective hat on.

Current best bet is
VOTE: BPC

That last bit of day one was fucked and he was here and able to post and did disappointingly little.

Gonna go read my team chat now and laugh at Cheetory for being in a big game

Quilford · Post Post #872 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:04 pm

Not a super big fan of the Johnny lynch, especially not until BPC gives us something.

Quilford · Post Post #873 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:05 pm

In post 844, Mina wrote:They aren't reading the game, but then Reck popped in and said that BBmolla was town and nothing else? When was this?

I asked Reck to look at molla overnight.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #874 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:11 pm

Aww Quil <3

Are you in full on waiting mode? I don't remember where your vote is