Tbh a taylor/bulge scumteam makes sense since the ascetic member will always perform the kill. That was kinda my solve anyway.
Yes, she is the only non-confirmable slot. We should hear what Bulge says but that’s a really good point. If Tayl0r is buddies with Bulge, then his clear is meaningless.
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I already talked about this, but mentioning my clear being meaningless does absolutely nothing but set up a push on me based on associatives from the flip she already knows is about to be red. the whole lead up to the vote is all the same shit
In post 741, Venus and Mars wrote:I think if either one of Tayl0r/Bulge flips red , there could be possible associatives, based on Gamma being suspicious of Derp and Tayl0r preferring Creature to Bulge.
I’ve been the most suspicious on Bulge since he replaced in.
In post 740, Alchemist21 wrote:So "no reason" basically. Gamma flipped neighbor so we know it's there, I just wondered if there was a reason Taylor didn't claim to be a member.
Anyway, I think we're all in agreement on Taylor. I'm pretty much ready to vote there but I still want a solid plan for the Night Actions.
If Infinity targets Bulge and I target Creature, then if Bulge is scum Infinity dies and Creature is cleared then we know Bulge is scum. If Infinity dies but I get a guilty on Creature then Creature can't frame Bulge. This also covers the scenario of Infinity being scum because it forces him to produce a result if he's alive; if Bulge dies and I have a clear on Creature it points right to Infinity as scum.
The only 2 caveats are the existence of a scum ninja or Venus and Mars somehow being scum. For either of those to be true I'd have to be wrong on Taylor anyway.
VOTE: Taylor Swift
Yeah that is a good plan. Read wise, I prefer Bulge but unlike Tayl0r, he’s solvable where as she isn’t because of the aesthetic thing.
I also think Creature is town and wouldn’t have killed Gamma.
VOTE: Tayl0r
Sorry if it’s not you but your aesthetic role makes you the best fade.
this is something I can't believe I never considered before but yea this sounds a lot more likely than a 2scum 1 town hood. that explains why taylor didn't claim the hood at first as well
In post 855, The Bulge wrote:but mentioning my clear being meaningless does absolutely nothing
ebwop, didn't finish my thought here
a tracker clear when there are two living scum is obviously always meaningless, but the timing to mention that certainly was convenient for the flip Mars knew was about to occur
Nancy said Taylor was a Neighbor but Taylor never claimed nor confirmed it, so Nancy would have to be either in the Neighborhood too or scum with Taylor to have known that.
Why would they start today with a naked vote on me and never engage further? how does this make sense after the night action plan failed to deliver results?
Truth be told I never had the 2nd shot and the plan was just a bluff to get scum to out themselves, and all the reactions are telling enough to know Creature's Town here. As scum he'd have been completely screwed by the plan and wouldn't have so readily gone along with it yesterday as he did, and the fact that this day started with an immediate 1v1 between Bulge and Nancy without anyone waiting to hear the verdict on Creature tells me scum came into this Day expecting him to be hard cleared anyway.
As far as the actual play goes, my multiple games of experience with Nancy makes me sure this is Town Nancy. I know that as scum she's willing to use other players' incorrect meta reads to push a slot she would know better than to scumread as Town, and here she's staunchly Townread both Creature and myself. And for Bulge, his posts towards Nancy today have had the false bravado I'd expect of desperate scum. He knows pushing Nancy is his only shot of winning here. I can appreciate the fight he's putting up but from where I'm standing I just see caught scum.
In post 864, The Bulge wrote:Why would they start today with a naked vote on me and never engage further? how does this make sense after the night action plan failed to deliver results?
And just to answer this, Nancy has been saying Creature and I are Town this whole time. She was never going to vote anyone else in endgame and acting surprised by it is just part of the act Bulge is selling right now to push Nancy.
look at how different taylor treats gamma compared to the hydra slot early on. she focuses on her neighbour from the start in order to build up momentum towards when they eventually out the hood. meanwhile she interacts with her other supposed neighbour very little, and when they do interact, taylor's tone is short and unlike her tone with anyone else in this game. where better for a scumpartner to hide than in a neighbourhood s/t hood? it's pretty ridiculous to assume anyone woulf suspect a 2s/1t hood, regardless of how often or how recently its happened, it's just not something anyone is likely to push, and is easily discredited if anyone does.
In post 868, Alchemist21 wrote:And just to answer this, Nancy has been saying Creature and I are Town this whole time. She was never going to vote anyone else in endgame and acting surprised by it is just part of the act Bulge is selling right now to push Nancy.
I was never surprised, I've known it was them since yesterday. Creature and taylor were for sure not partners and his willingness to go along with the plan looks super not-scum as well.
In post 868, Alchemist21 wrote:And just to answer this, Nancy has been saying Creature and I are Town this whole time. She was never going to vote anyone else in endgame and acting surprised by it is just part of the act Bulge is selling right now to push Nancy.
I was never surprised, I've known it was them since yesterday. Creature and taylor were for sure not partners and his willingness to go along with the plan looks super not-scum as well.
Then why did you say her play doesn't make sense if it wasn't just an attempt to push her today? She made it abundantly clear yesterday who she would vote for in this scenario even without the plan.
this is something I can't believe I never considered before but yea this sounds a lot more likely than a 2scum 1 town hood. that explains why taylor didn't claim the hood at first as well
In post 864, The Bulge wrote:Why would they start today with a naked vote on me and never engage further? how does this make sense after the night action plan failed to deliver results?
Infinity said he would visit you. That’s why I voted. But your interactions with Tayl0r screamed scum theatre. It was blatantly obvious you and her were planning to set me up with your whole good cop/bad cop gambit.
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