Mini 1559: The 80s!

[farside22]

Oh, the cop? I didn't even know who the cop was until he died.
Lolz xD

So many emotions. I swear to all that is holy do people not read the freeking game?

[havingfitz]

Between replacing into game right before end of D1...completely missing an extremely abbreviated D2...and being on vacation when D3 started I am feeling very disconnected to this game.  Fortunately there have been no mislynches yet (only missed shots) and town looks to be in a good position.
 
These questions/comments are off the top of my head and based on memory and looking over the last few pages.
- IMO Domo is confirmed town.  I can not see scum having a role that would involve giving out shots to other people.
- I do not think the people he gave a gun to are cleared (farside, kush)
@DOMO....why did you give kush a gun?
- iirc someone made a comment to the effect that kush was conftown?  Is that correct?  If he is...can someone please explain why? (Note:...Elyse said it)
- Is anyone else actually confirmed town?
@SiX...why did you say in before town flip on someone you had just put at L-1?
 
Remaining town reads from initial read through:
DOMO
Rhinox
farside
 
I think the last scum is in:
Elyse (pending claims and fleshing out her claim)
kush (pending confirmed town explanation?)
SiX
 
Annnnnnnnd I'm prodded (focking 48 hour deadlines...

mod...can Post 887 count as a v/LA and ergo no prod?

)
 
OK...I'm off vacation...the game is on.  I think I'm caught up.....so I should be good to go now.
 
I just saw SiX's claim and in addition to leaning towards voting him anyway...I really do not like his claim.  Or his claimed actions. 
 
@SiX...could you explain again why you felt the need to protect yourself vs DOMO N1?
 
Of the two claims I believe Elyse's over SiX's so,
 
VOTE: SiX
 
And I'm a Vanilla Townie.
 

[DOMO]

Ok I'm sold on elyse, rhinox is bang on that she failed to mention three people who she should have been very concerned about, and farside is bang on when she says that it's unlikely town JK would anticipate a lock win when she doesn't even know how many scum are dead.

unvote

Lemme take in fitz's post.

[DOMO]

@DOMO....why did you give kush a gun?

It was a rushed decision due to bjc's self hammer. I quickly gave farside the gun, then pm'ed the mod asking to give it to kush instead, thinking farside is most likely to be RB'ed if they have a RB. Had I anticipated the epm shot I'd have given it to someone else, but I was rushed for time and wanted to make sure bjc's self hammer did not stop me handing the gun out.

six failing to protect egg is worrying, it was obvious he was cop or gunsmith and would have been obvious target. The fact the cop was insta taken out might hint they had a 1x strongman, but that's unhelpful setup spec so w/e on that.

I don't think I care who gets lynched today so long as the other goes tomorrow if we get a townflip today.

[DOMO]

Oh and elyse thought kush was clear because kush didn't shoot her, depsite me asking for elyse to be shot. Makes a little bit of sense for her to feel this way if she is town, although I argued that kush isn't conftown due to that alone and elyse recognised the point I was making.

[toolenduso]

Due to a clerical error, this vote count has been sent...

Spoiler:

[havingfitz]

^ that kind of makes sense.....unless you are a jailkeeper and have the ability to ensure you are not shot. Has that subject been broached?

P.edit...to DOMO's last post.

[Rhinox]

- Is anyone else actually confirmed town?

I think farside can be considered confirmed town due to elyse's claim, whether elyse is town or scum. Elyse claimed to JK farside N2, and there were 2 kills (gun + scumkill) so farside could not have submitted a scum kill, and with likely 1 scum left that makes her conftown.

kush is not actually conftown but I feel he is likely town. And what DOMO said.

[SiX]

@Fitz
Protect myself versus DOMO n1, what?
What I did was protecting him, not protecting versus him.

[DOMO]

farside is conftown unless and until it becomes clear there's 4 scum, at which point she is probtown.

kush is probtown but he's gone quiet today at a crucial time when he was the 2nd most active, so worry about him if we're struggling to win.

The rest are possible scums from my pov, but it's highly likely there's one left and it's between the JK and doc claims.

[DOMO]

unless you are a jailkeeper and have the ability to ensure you are not shot. Has that subject been broached?

Is this at me? I've had two different people confirm they have received a gun, and I claimed before it was clear such a role existed (also no cc obviously). I'm either town GI, or scum GI, with scum GI being a ridiculously OP role. So yeah I should be treated as conftown and if I'm scum then shout at the mod.

[havingfitz]

^ I'm responding to your post. I'm talking about how one might act if they were a jailkeeper. (i.e. Elyse)

I get/believe your claim.

[havingfitz]

R1 I protected Myself.
I intentionally slipped my role abit to make sure the mafias wouldn't risk their nightkill on DOMO.
Instead, I expected them to fire on me.

@SiX...could you explain again why you felt the need to protect yourself vs DOMO N1?

@Fitz
Protect myself versus DOMO n1, what?
What I did was protecting him, not protecting versus him.

Huh?

[DOMO]

I haven't a clue which claim is the bullshit one, since neither make any sense.

[farside22]

The only person who has talked about today is kushm4sta.
So far I see fitz thinks elyse is town claim. I for the life of me don't want to start on Fitz because the last game I recall playing with him we were attacking each other like crazy and both town.
Someone point fitz to the elyse discrepancy and ask him why he thinks Elyse would not know there was 2 scum gone point.

Rhinox and myself believe Six's claim over Elyse.

Domo?

[farside22]

R1 I protected Myself.

I intentionally slipped my role abit to make sure the mafias wouldn't risk their nightkill on DOMO.
Instead, I expected them to fire on me

.

@SiX...could you explain again why you felt the need to protect yourself vs DOMO N1?

Actually I changed my mind about not talking to fitz.
What part of the bold does not explain why Six targeted himself night 1?

[Elyse]

Why is everyone freaking out?

SiX claimed doc. There's no way there's a doc/JK.

He's obviously a scum doc but you guys don't believe me. I don't really care if I'm lynched first, so go ahead and lynch me. When I flip town lynch SiX for the win. He was so dumb to claim doc.

It should be obvious when he says "if Elyse flips town then I don't know where to look". If he's town he should realize there's no way we are both town but he's not and he's already trying to protect himself for my inevitable townflip.

Vote: SiX

This win is in the bag. Stop overthinking everything.

[farside22]

I love when people come in and don't explain anything.

Still paranoid about 4 mafia. I need to see something.

[Elyse]

Also

why the FUCK would you protect DOMO over Egg?

That is literally retarded and should show that his claim is fake.

P-edit:
What do you want me to explain?

There aren't 4 scum. It's a standard game. Stop overthinking this.

[SiX]

Is there a possibility with 3 mafias and 1 evil villager?

[Elyse]

Ok let's say there's 4 scum and 9 town. Just to humor you.

We lynch town D1, inventor gives gun to someone and they kill town N1, and scum kills someone else N1.

That's 4-6 already, which is MyLo.

There's no way in hell this is the setup.

[farside22]

Also

why the FUCK would you protect DOMO over Egg?

That is literally retarded and should show that his claim is fake.

P-edit:
What do you want me to explain?

There aren't 4 scum. It's a standard game. Stop overthinking this.

The person who jailed another player instead of jailing the claimed cop has no right to throw stones.

[farside22]

Is there a possibility with 3 mafias and 1 evil villager?

no

I double checked a few games, no 4 scums in a game and no vig with a SK in a normal game.
All would be incredible broken and game would end day 2 will all that.

Still can't imagine a CC from scum. Can't imagine a claim from scum.
Crumble from Six.
Elyse crumb sort of day 3. Meh
Says plan for town to auto win during night 2. Says she forgot that there was 2 scum dead day 3

Too many contradictions from Elyse for me to vote Six.

[SiX]

Spoiler:

* Fake claims Jailkeeper

* Hypocritical

^ Accuses me for not protecting Egg,

why didn't she do it herself if she was the Jailkeeper?

No, she prefers blocking Farside, a confirmed town.
I didn't protect Egg basically because R2 happened so fast that I didn't even realize I missed some pages = Missed the Cop claim. So fully unaware of an existing Cop.

* Flexible with her voting, Votes for reasons having no logic just because there's a bandwagon, also policy voting Kushm4sta:

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"VOTE: kushm4sta
for having one of those names like all teenage boys have on Xbox."

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"Rhinox seems artificial and kush seems immature/irritable so I guess I'll switch to Rhinox even though I would rather get rid of kush at this point.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Rhinox"

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"UNVOTE:
VOTE: kushm4sta
Shape up or get out. I'm sick of you and your attitude."

* Cautious on Skitzomaniak (Mafia Goon)

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"Why are people voting for skitz?"

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"I don't think that it makes skitz scum"

* I Suspect her and Skitzomaniak(< eg) and also tries to see other peoples opinion on me just because I end up on the same conclusion as them, to save skitzo?

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"If skitz is town I can definitely see SiX as scum."

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"SiX came in and rehashed what other people said and avoided giving actual content.
If skitz is town, I could see scum SiX trying not to ruffle any feathers to secure a mislynch."

Those points clearly exceeds your emotional accuses.

[Elyse]

Also

why the FUCK would you protect DOMO over Egg?

That is literally retarded and should show that his claim is fake.

P-edit:
What do you want me to explain?

There aren't 4 scum. It's a standard game. Stop overthinking this.

The person who jailed another player instead of jailing the claimed cop has no right to throw stones.

What use is a roleblocked cop?

Are you serious right now? Stop ignoring SiX's stupidity just because I didn't jail the cop. There is zero reason for not protecting a cop.

I would just stop replying until you guys lynched one of us but you're being really dumb and talking about four scum when it is blatantly obvious one of {me, SiX} is lying. I don't have faith in you to lynch SiX after I flip town and that's really sad.