Open 120 - Rebels in the Palace - Game Over! before 756

[sekinj]

Open 120 - Rebels in the Palace: The Rebels have infiltrated the Palace!! Can the Guards save the King? Can the King save himself? Will the Rebels win? No one shall sleep until Victory is declared!!

Status:

Game Over! Rebels Prevail! King lynched on Day 7!

Still Fighting:

P05 - Empking
P08 - TonyMontana

(veerus, hohum, Numberfourteen)

P09 - ortolan
P10 - Qanqan
P11 - Trumpet of Doom

Gave up the Ghost:

P01 - Wall-E

(afatchic)

- Rebel (Lynched Day 1)
P06 - Lynx The Antithesis

(erikw11)

- Rebel (Lynched Day 2)
P03 - orangepenguin

(Citytube)

- Rebel (Lynched Day 3)
P07 - Zachrulez

(Shinnen_no_Me, Magus_Stragus)

- Guard (Lynched Day 4)
P02 - TonyMontana

(BlakAdder)

- Rebel (Lynched Day 5)
P04 - Corvuus - Guard (Lynched Day 6)
P12 - zwetschenwasser - KING (Lynched Day 7)

Rebel PM:

You are one of eight rebels. You win when the King is lynched. But who is the King? Happy hunting... You lose if the King and guards outnumber

OR EQUAL

you.

Guard PM:

You are one of three guards to the Magnificent King ____. To win you must lynch enough rebels that you, your fellow guards, and the King outnumber

OR EQUAL

them. You lose if the King is lynched.

King PM:

You are the King! To win you must lynch enough rebels that you and your loyal guards outnumber

OR EQUAL

them. You lose if you are lynched.

Events:

Premise
Rules
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Begin Day 1
VC 1-1 | VC 1-2 | VC 1-3 | VC 1-4 | VC 1-5 | VC 1-6 | VC 1-7 | VC 1-8
End Day 1
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Begin Day 2
End Day 2
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Begin Day 3
End Day 3
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Begin Day 4
End Day 4
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Begin Day 5
VC 5-9 | VC 5-10 | VC 5-11 | VC 5-12 | VC 5-13 | VC 5-14
End Day 5
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Begin Day 6
End Day 6
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Begin Day 7
VC 7-15 | VC 7-16
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End Day 7
Game Over!

End of Game Info: Player Roles

P01 - Wall-E (

afatchic

) - Rebel
P02 - TonyMontana (

BlakAdder

) - Rebel
P03 - orangepenguin (

Citytube

) - Rebel

P04 - Corvuus - Guard

P05 - Empking - Rebel
P06 - Lynx The Antithesis (

erikw11

) - Rebel

P07 - Zachrulez (

Shinnen_no_Me, Magus_Stragus

) - Guard

P08 - TonyMontana (

veerus, hohum, Numberfourteen

) - Rebel
P09 - ortolan - Rebel

P10 - Qanqan - Guard

P11 - Trumpet of Doom - Rebel

P12 - zwetschenwasser - KING

[sekinj]

RULES

A - Basics:

A-1.

Game discussion will take place only through the links provided in your role PM. That includes this thread and possibly (depending on the setup and your role) a QuickTopic thread. :arrow:

Do not discuss the game in any other location.

A-2.

Do not posts links to other threads or any external sources in thread. Do not quote or pretend to quote

any

PM or

any

communication that may occur in a QuickTopic thread. This includes messages from the mod or

any other players

. You may paraphrase, but please be vague.

A-3.

:arrow: Any communication with the mod (besides voting) should be via PM

and not in thread.

This includes corrections of mistakes, requests for prods, replacement requests, and vote count requests.

Do not post such items in thread

A-4.

The mod's colors are

RED

and

DARK RED

. Do not use them. You may use any other colors in thread, but do not re-size text to be larger or smaller than normal.

Do not Edit or Delete any post.

A-5.

:arrow: Failure to follow any rule is punishable by replacement or immediate ModKill. A ModKill may or may not end the day according to the mod's discretion.

A-6.

If in doubt Please PM the mod and ask.

B - Gameplay:

B-1.

Only votes placed in

bold

will be counted (example-

Vote: Sharen

). Unvoting is appreciated, but not required.

B-2.

Once a majority of votes is reached the lynch is inevitable and no votes or unvotes will be counted.

All

players may continue to discuss normally until the thread is locked.

B-3.

If a deadline is reached without a player receiving the majority of votes, the player with the current highest number of votes will be lynched. In the case of a tie the player who received the highest number of votes first will be lynched.

B-4.

:arrow: Once a player's death scene has been posted that player is dead. Additional posts

are allowed

by a dead player at any time in the game,

but must contained only "ghost noises" and

no

readable English words or abbreviations (not even 'bah!').

These posts may be deleted by the mod at the mod's discretion.

B-5.

The mod will send a PM at the beginning of each new day.

C - Activity:

C-1.

:arrow: You are

expected

to post at least one (1) time in every twenty-four (24) hour period. You are

required

to post at least one (1) time in every forty-eight (48) hour period. (Note: Weekend posting will be given

slightly

more leniancy. )

C-2.

After forty-eight (48) hours of not posting you will be prodded. If you fail to respond to the prod you will be replaced. If your activity level drops again, you will be given one additional prod, and then you will be replaced.

C-3.

If you will be unable to post for any length of time over 48 hours please inform the mod via PM. The mod

DOES NOT

check the V/LA Thread. You may be replaced at the mod's discretion.

C-4.

If the quality or frequency of total game activity slows, a deadline may be imposed. Please PM the mod to request a deadline or deadline extension.

C-5.

The mod may send random activity checks during the day phase of the game. These do not need to be responded too.

D - Conduct:

D-1. :arrow: No insults or personal attacks will be tolerated.

You will be warned once by PM and once in thread if the mod deems your behavior towards your fellow players inappropriate. If you continue, you will be ModKilled.

D-2. The most important rule -->

Take your character to heart

, get into the game, and

HAVE FUN!!

[sekinj]

Begin Day 1!

[Empking]

Vote: Zwet

because he's following me.

[Citytube]

vote Corvuss

randomly

[Numberfourteen]

Vote: Empking

I like keeping the trend of random voting him every game I am in!

[Corvuus]

.... so tempted to vote citytube simply for spelling my name wrong!!!! Must... Resist....

Vote zwetschenwasser

for being at the bottom of the list.

Corv

[afatchic]

Vote Zwet

i love RVS bandwagons...

[sekinj]

Vote Count 1

(# of votes against) Voted Player - by Voter(s)

(0) afatchic
(0) BlakAdder
(0) Citytube
(1) Corvuus - by Citytube
(1) Empking - by Numberfourteen
(0) Lynx The Antithesis
(0) Numberfourteen
(0) ortolan
(0) Quanqan
(0) Shinnen_no_Me
(0) Trumpet of Doom

(3) zwetschenwasser - by afatchic, Corvuus, Empking

Seven (7) votes to Lynch.

[Lynx The Antithesis]

Vote:CityTube

For being the only player I've played another game with...scum.

[BlakAdder]

Vote: Numberfourteen

because you wound up being my doom in a newbie game we played in.

[zwetschenwasser]

Yakaza Whuza!

Vote: BlakAdder

Anyone crazy enough to own a black adder has to be the king.

[ortolan]

Vote: Lynx The Antithesis

because I dislike your avatar

[Shinnen_no_Me]

Vote: Lynx

because I don't like people that replaces other players (¬_¬)

[Qanqan]

Vote: Shinnen_no_Me

for having a name I don't understand D:

[afatchic]

So this setup confuses me a bit...

would the rebels be Vanilla townies.... Guards be traitors... king be Mafia Godfather..

[ortolan]

not really, it's more like some inverted version of assassin in the palace where the assassins are the majority

[Empking]

I think Af got it right but I think the guards only know the king not the other guards.

[Qanqan]

So this setup confuses me a bit...

would the rebels be Vanilla townies.... Guards be traitors... king be Mafia Godfather..

unvote; vote: afatchic

for pretending to not understand how the game works (obv scum playing dumb)

[Shinnen_no_Me]

This is an interesting setting, don't you think so? It refresh the normal town vs mafia game.

[Lynx The Antithesis]

Vote: Lynx The Antithesis

because I dislike your avatar

No it's the epitome of awesomeness end of story.

On a game related note, the guards are the only ones who have any inside knowledge because they know which player is the king. The rest of the players know nothing I'm pretty sure.

[Corvuus]

It is an interesting setting. Victory condition completely dependent on one player.

The other part that is interesting is that there doesn't seem to be a mention of night actions/night kill ability at all. We won't know for sure until after N1 but if there is no NK ability (i.e. no power roles) then that certainly changes the dynamic of this game. The closest thing I can think of from the PMs is that rebels are 'uninformed majority/townies' and Guards are 'informed minority/mason/no NK type'.


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Rebel PM:
Quote:
You are one of eight rebels. You win when the King is lynched. But who is the King? Happy hunting... You lose if the King and guards outnumber you.

Guard PM:
Quote:
You are one of three guards to the Magnificent King ____. To win you must lynch enough rebels that you, your fellow guards, and the King outnumber them. You lose if the King is lynched.

King PM:
Quote:
You are the King! To win you must lynch enough rebels that you and your loyal guards outnumber them. You lose if you are lynched.
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unvote

C

[Empking]

8:4 Nightless with (heavily) nerfed scum.

Am I right in thinking that we'd have good odds on winning if we random lynch?

I don't think this set up was tested.

[Lynx The Antithesis]

Its a tough call because the scum don't know who each other are. So they won't hold back from , pressuring, defending anyone. Which means you can't get a strong read on buddying, distancing, or anything based purely upon player interactions excluding the king. The guards would hesitate to bus the king because they lose if he goes down.

I'm not sure how much info we'd gain from a guard or rebel lynch considering neither know who is who. The only profitable one would be the king, but if his alignment is revealed, then the game is already over. So random lynch doesn't seem too horrible an idea for this setup compared to a normal game.

Corvus, considering that you suggested the possibility that there could be no power roles in this game, you've basically just confirmed that you don't have one if there are any.

[Corvuus]

if there is no night, and the only deaths are from lynches, then town is pretty heavily favored.

The easiest way to pseudo-calculate it would be from worst case scenario.

I.e. how soon will town lose from random mislynches.

VC: 3 guards and 1 King win when they outnumber the rebels. Thus only 4 rebels remaining and all scum alive is earliest possible win.

8 rebels initially, town can do 4 random lynches and mislynch before losing. The odds of that occuring (randomly) should be 8/12 the first day, 7/11 2nd day, 6/10, 5/9. This translates into 2/3 chance of mislynch day 1, 63% day 2, 60% day 3, 55% day 4. So worst case autolosing for town is that.

If at any point town randomly lynches scum (guards) then the game almost goes into autowin (gain info and scum VC requires an extra town kill), and a random King lynch is a win.

In the end, town has at least 4 days to get it right, and a random 1/3 chance of doing so and if town ever 'gets lucky' then they get another two days (one from preventing mislynch and one from lynching scum so scum VC requires extra town death). In the end, if the only info scum has is 'who' the King is, then I don't see how this is really balanced unless there is some type of hidden condition where "if town fails to find the King before X number of days, then King auto wins" type.

At any rate, i think we should try to scumhunt for a few pages before bringing this up again.

C