Mini 903 - Owarai TV (Game over... who won?)

[Starbuck]

Starbuck, why didn't you question Rai about his vote on you?

Starbuck, please answer.

Sorry, I missed that.

Because it was his first post into the game.

[Amished]

And.... how did that affect how you looked at the vote?

[Starbuck]

I looked at it as an RVS vote.

[Amished]

Did you feel like we were still in the RVS when that vote was made?

[Starbuck]

I don't feel that we were in RVS, but it's a fault of mine that I give benefit of the doubt to those who just entered the game while were still in the first 5 pages.

[Devestation]

If thats an RVS vote, it means he's not really paying attention to the game >_>

[Devestation]

In fact, I want to hear the explanation now from Raivann- were you just not paying attention, or do you have a good reason for the vote (or no reason whatsoever)?

[Amished]

@Starbuck: the early part of your post is what makes me wonder. We got out of the RVS rather quickly. It doesn't really matter when somebody has their first post, if they're following along they'll know the tone of the game.

[Starbuck]

You seem like you were just advocating for active lurking.

[chauchaudotcom]

I don't feel that we were in RVS, but it's a fault of mine that I give benefit of the doubt to those who just entered the game while were still in the first 5 pages.

Personally this doesn't make sense to me. Anon's vote was also at the beginning of the game but you weren't exactly prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt. In any case I just found it weird how you called one out on their unexplained bandwagon vote but not another.

If thats an RVS vote, it means he's not really paying attention to the game >_>

I'm pretty sure Rai was paying attention from the start (his questioning of hellfire, his remark that his vote was both random but serious at the same time). For the record, he doesn't even have to pay much attention to know that Starbucks had more then one vote on her. It's all on page 1 which I'm sure any person would have at least read before random voting.

Let's not lynch Starbuck, k?

Are you content with keeping your vote on her?

[VP Baltar]

Let's not lynch Starbuck, k?

Are you content with keeping your vote on her?

lulz

[chauchaudotcom]

ef ms timed out on me so I wasn't sure if my post went through. T_T can you delete that repeat post mod?

lulz

o.o?

[VP Baltar]

I'm laughing. You should check who reck is voting before making accusations.

[chauchaudotcom]

My bad Reck changed votes. =/ I missed that.

[Amished]

@Star: What do you mean? Active lurking is about the worst thing you (proverbial you) can do in a game this size.

Also, lol @ chau, nicely done..

[VP Baltar]

Hey, 6. malpascp / 8. The Inquisition / 10. dramonic , what's going on?

What are your thoughts on the Starbuck wagon? Do you plan on voting someone any time soon?

[Starbuck]

Personally this doesn't make sense to me. Anon's vote was also at the beginning of the game but you weren't exactly prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt. In any case I just found it weird how you called one out on their unexplained bandwagon vote but not another.

I called out on it start discussion to move us out of RVS. It seems to have worked, or would you disagree?

I'm pretty sure Rai was paying attention from the start (his questioning of hellfire, his remark that his vote was both random but serious at the same time). For the record, he doesn't even have to pay much attention to know that Starbucks had more then one vote on her. It's all on page 1 which I'm sure any person would have at least read before random voting.

Why are you so sure on this? What makes you so inclined to think so?

I feel a subtle defending of Rai here.

[Starbuck]

@Star: What do you mean? Active lurking is about the worst thing you (proverbial you) can do in a game this size.

My point exactly.

So why would you say in Post 82, that

It doesn't really matter when somebody has their first post, if they're following along they'll know the tone of the game.

Why doesn't it matter when they have their first post?

[Amished]

That if they (Raivann, in this case) knew the tone of the game, that they wouldn't put out an RVS vote and instead seriously vote since we were out of the RVS.

You feel we're out of RVS, so somebody following along would also think that we're out of the RVS, regardless of if their first post was the first one of the game or (like Raiv, Mal, or Inqui) they wouldn't put out an RVS vote.

That sounds weird.

No matter the person, they'd know that we were out of the RVS. To then vote outside the RVS would make it a non-random vote. If it's not a random vote, it deserves to be questioned (heck, you even questioned Anon's semi-random bandwagon vote). But you didn't question Raiv about it; you just assumed that it was random while you didn't do the same thing to Anon's vote that came much sooner.

What about Raiv's vote made you think that it was totally random and didn't bother you beyond "getting quicklynched"?

[Starbuck]

Why wouldn't they put out an RVS vote? Why are you assuming that they wouldn't?

They could easily come in and say, "Hey guys, my bad for being late. Here's my RVS vote, ha ha ha. Off to catch up".

You are assuming things way too easily. I'm not comfortable with that.

Vote: Amished

[Starbuck]

What about Raiv's vote made you think that it was totally random and didn't bother you beyond "getting quicklynched"?

Can you smell what The Rock is cooking!

That sounds like a pretty joking tone to me.

He also stated in Post 71 that

It was my serious random vote.

What exactly is that? You've already asked him that question. I'm awaiting his response.

The fact that he went out of his way to use the word random gives him a little leeway with me.

[Amished]

Yeah, I had to ask him; which was my point. You posted in there before I could ask Raiv what the deal was with his vote. Nothing about out of the RVS and getting a random vote/ questioning if he just tacked that comment on and actually wanted to bandwagon you might be worth investigating? Rather than saying that it'd be fun getting quicklynched? Or perhaps asking why he's still in the RVS/what he thought of the previous page?

[xRECKONERx]

Amished, would you prefer a Starbuck lynch or a Raiv lynch based on the first 4 pages, and why?

[Amished]

Raiv. Starbuck is active and has shown ability to scumhunt/question. Raiv I got nothing on.

[Raivann]

Ok I'll explain in more detail my vote now.
It was random in the way that I didn't find Starbuck scummy
It was serious because I wanted to see the reponses it would get. I figured it would be more than just a random vote on anyone else.
I only had read the first page and saw that Starbuck had a wagon and there was discussion about it already.
I think wagons are a good thing, just look at the discussion this one has generated.
That being said I liked Starbucks responses and now that i've explained my vote was for wagon sakes only it kinda loses it's meaning. I was hoping to wait a little longer till the inactives posted but oh well.

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