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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:00 pm
by Fate
So let's discuss role synergy pre-game Hoopla, even though you'll probably be dishonest just in case you're scum again.

Splitting the vig in half was a good way to weaken it. However a lot of other pro-scum roles have been taken out, so I can see scum still going for it:

1. Even night Vig
2. Odd night Vig
3. Redirector
4. 2-Shot Janitor
5. Jailkeeper/Bomb/Role Cop

Thoughts? Oh I see you already posted them. Janitor is powerful, but who is going to want to pick that if they are in the top 10? Selfishness 101.

Also I already know the best mason-role combo out there. *Crosses fingers* I'd say it but that wouldn't be pro-town.

And we all know I'm gonna be town this time.

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:25 pm
by Fate
Oh and someone pick doctor for the love of god this game >_>

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:41 pm
by Hoopla
I helped design the set-up this time. The main thing we were trying to fix from last time was the badass power combination for scum. It still exists this game to an extent, which opens up creative scum gambits - I can see a few decent combinations of roles that I won't say until the draft has been concluded. But there was 1-2 too many really pro-scum roles last time.

Masons also add a bit of power to the town, which should at some point in the game give us a confirmed innocent to work with which would be nice. Info roles like weak doctor and gunsmith are new inclusions which should also help the town. I expect a more balanced game this time, due to the very powerful roles being either watered down or removed.

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:03 pm
by Fate
The only thing is missing is the player list.

Lurking/incative/complacent town will kill us again this game.

*looks at player list*


Meh..... Let's just say I know who I'm gonna vig.

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:37 pm
by skeith931
can I /in?

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:42 pm
by Fate
Have you completed one game on this site before?

This set-up is pretty complicated and fast-paced. There are no nights, there are lots of roles and stuff to sift through, and fruit to be vendored.

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:11 am
by skeith931
oh then ill join next time then.

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:02 am
by Parama
Fate better vig me Night 1, even if he's even night vig.

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:21 am
by wolframnhart
*sigh* if only I didn't have three large games going on right now ><

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:43 am
by Faraday
/in to win 3 in a row~!

I hope I'm a mason :)

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:03 am
by RedCoyote
I'd like to sign up... but I think I've just got too much going on right now.

That and the spanking Hoops and the rest of the scum team gave us last time still smarts.

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:04 am
by Hoopla
RedCoyote wrote:I'd like to sign up... but I think I've just got too much going on right now.

That and the spanking Hoops and the rest of the scum team gave us last time still smarts.
I'm town this time, so you have a 16/21 shot of winning.

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:59 am
by manho
/in

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:42 am
by Socrates
My presence has been requested.

/in

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:45 am
by Socrates
Does the fruit vendor role have a purpose other than potentially sabotaging the users own team?

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:45 am
by Hoopla
Socrates wrote:Does the fruit vendor role have a purpose other than potentially sabotaging the users own team?
Yeah, it gives away fruit.

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:52 am
by Socrates
Oh, hey. I just realized how to use it productively. Never mind.

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:57 am
by hitogoroshi
As much as I want to play a Spyrex-modded game and bring back the Nice and Fun scumteam, I'm afraid I'm going to have to sit this one out. I'll watch the topic, though, so if PYP4 comes around I can come in knowing what I'm doing. (I suppose this also means I could probably replace if someone gets BaM modkilled, though tbh I'll be a pretty lackluster replacement for the next couple of weeks.)

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:05 am
by CryMeARiver
/in

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:23 am
by Socrates
I'm town. Yay!

Incidentally, I am still of the opinion that this setup favors a town massclaim. Day 2 is probably the optimal time to do so. Maybe Day 3.

Also, I feel like we should discuss pro-town number strategy in this thread before we need to get our numbers in, but I haven't thought about it enough to actually have any conclusions to share.

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:26 am
by Socrates
Maybe we should publicly roll dice to pick our numbers in order to circumvent scum co-ordination?

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:33 am
by CryMeARiver
Socrates wrote:Oh, hey. I just realized how to use it productively. Never mind.
Yeah, one can prove they are town with it

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:48 am
by 12Keyblade
/in!

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:07 am
by Fate
Parama wrote:Fate better vig me Night 1, even if he's even night vig.
:wink:

Sweet, Faraday, Soc, AND Hoopla.

If only I could triple-vote you all in RVS...

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:48 am
by Parama
One more!
I am going to softclaim scum at this point in time.