Im pretty sure most of the players have noticed that a town role has been killed.don_johnson wrote:did anyone notice we've already lost a town powerole?
maybe rvs should end here and now.
vote: sleepless assasin
for the obvious reasons of trying to pack in an FoS on his scumbuddy(i'm looking at you confid), a bandwagon vote(primate), a lame attempt at buddying me, and an AtE(smilie) all in one tiny post.
discuss.
Agree. It's definitely best if we know the hider's target. We can confirm townies and scum. It's worth it in this setup, when we know that there's a hider. I've been Hider before, and this makes sense.don_johnson wrote:okay. don't freak out. but.
at some point before the end of the day our hider should claim. DO NOT CLAIM YET. it is my understanding of the role that hider dies if they hide behind scum, no? so better to be out in the open and verbalizing targets. agree/disagree?
Don't mess with Thief.Primate wrote:unvote
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Role cop was the least valuable of our PR's (except maybe hider).guy0 wrote:It is unfortunate that one of the more valuable town power roles was killed by pure chance, but I don't think we should be hasty as a result of it.
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It's not really relevant to day play.Did anyone notice we've already lost a town powerole?
No. Verbalises target, scum kill that guy hider gets twofer'd. Play is hider does what he wants for a bit and we potentially get windfall later potentially he dies. Watcher can prevent but we don't want watcher to prevent for various reasons. Strength of role is not in actual role ability but in rock solid claim itself, with benefits, .at some point before the end of the day our hider should claim. DO NOT CLAIM YET. it is my understanding of the role that hider dies if they hide behind scum, no? so better to be out in the open and verbalizing targets. agree/disagree?
Watcher confusion irrelevant. If watcher recieves result and target not dead, guy he has the result on is hider or target is hider. Former case is more likely, latter case creates much more confusion so should be avoided until late game and clear.who they are targeting then it prevents watcher confusion
He's a weak doc, and can confirm townies.Primate wrote:This is an open setup and it's not a particularly powerful role. Treat it as a confirmed townie with swing potential is my feeling.Except that unless the hider says (or breadcrumbs, I guess), his role is not of any use. So if he doesn't say his target he may as well not hide, if he may.
I'm aware of what the role does. That not the same thing as how we treat the role. I don't see the benefit of any town interference against the way this would normally play out.Pomegranate wrote:He's a weak doc, and can confirm townies.Primate wrote:This is an open setup and it's not a particularly powerful role. Treat it as a confirmed townie with swing potential is my feeling.Except that unless the hider says (or breadcrumbs, I guess), his role is not of any use. So if he doesn't say his target he may as well not hide, if he may.
No watcher is good enough to make a case against someone who they have not previously have suspected in a way serious enough to end in that guys lynch without it being obvious to the scum they are the watcher, sorry. Besides, if we're relying on hypothetical good play, then I'll have caught all the scum by the end of the today anyway, so what the watcher does isn't really relevant.don_johnson wrote:mafia trades a goon on day 2 in order to take out the hider. watchers targets are narrowed down greatly. watchers don't need to claim to engineer a lynch if they are good at building cases and whatnot. we are in a low number game, using every resource available to us is an optimal strategy imo. a dead hider on day 2 does us no good without a claimed target or a watcher seeing it. with three goons there is a good potential for us to end up with a nk'd player and a dead hider and nothing to show for it, whereas if hider claims we most certainly reap benefits. if mafia chooses not to kill hider, then we have a confirmed townie. either way, it seems to swing the numbers in favor of town. also, an early claim becomes uncounterable late game. scum would be bold to counterclaim the hider on day 1, no?
Oh. I meant to say that we should play some jump rope and hopscotch together.Beloved Princess wrote:Pomegranate, why you don't like me? Are you sure you don't want to get to know each other a little better before making a judgment like that?~