"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
"If i must blantantly follow somone a player cannot do better than blindly following benmage" - tubby216
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
Where Andrew obviously cheated (if he had all these scumreads, why did he wait until after he shot me to advocate ANY of them? How could he be so sure that would earn him the necessary town cred? Hmmmmm......)
Where there were a lot worse people than Grey (See: RedFF, Junpei)
You're going to harp.... Over that.
Right!
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
"If i must blantantly follow somone a player cannot do better than blindly following benmage" - tubby216
And if you're unhappy with others. Feel free to be. That doesn't excuse that lack of respect GreyIce showed, the game, the mod, the players and the site. If I was mith I'd ip ban.
"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
"If i must blantantly follow somone a player cannot do better than blindly following benmage" - tubby216
In post 3303, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Where Andrew obviously cheated (if he had all these scumreads, why did he wait until after he shot me to advocate ANY of them? How could he be so sure that would earn him the necessary town cred? Hmmmmm......)
There were like 90+ pages when he replaced in. And the suggestion that he should have all these scum reads right when he replaced in is lol.
-firestarter guy pretty scummy
-DEasVail pretty towny
-Lady pretty ok
-Either maxwell or junpei( fall) is scum.
It looks to me like he read or reread during the night decided to shoot you and once you flipped scum kinda put thinks together. Its not like the scum team played the worlds greatest game. Mafia was just kickin' our ass 'cause there were so many mislynchable and fairly gullible town. SC defended you like crazy and the link between you and FG was rather clear. But he didn't even call SC scum. And he called Hez. So yeah, I doubt he was cheating.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
That's because I legitimately slipped (and he had the only role that could have known that). It can't be used in an argument as to whether or not he was cheating. I wasn't even on his radar before then, keep in mind.
The following people own: Pie, Fritz, Inhim
The greatest mafia game ever: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=18080
In post 3311, Quilford wrote:This is actually one of the most legit reasons to replace out, not sure why you're spitting the dummy
No, it is not. Far and away one of the worst reasons (trailing only behind Strategic Replacment). If you get 'bored' in Mafia for whatever reason then you probably should stop playing the game since clearly there are going to be more times when you have a bland role (VT) than any other circumstance.
Yes, I know I didn't play but this is a bad, bad response.
"I am a leaf on the wind ... watch how I soar!"
Pretty much Geriatric game restricted at this point ... unless there are players I REALLY want to play with.
If you're not having fun, you inevitably make the game less fun for other people, right?
Mafia is a game we play primarily to have fun. What's the point in playing if you're not going to enjoy it?
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In my eyes strategic replacement and overloading on games are really the only terrible reasons to replace out. Not having fun only becomes less legit if you use it as an excuse to replace out from more than one game, really.
I replaced out because the posting was drivel and then it turned excessively toxic.
Basically it boils down to this: the game was hellishly tough to follow due to people being jerks, and then RedFF turned the jerk dial up to 11 and the rest of the thread pretty much said 'yep, we're cool with that' and I realized there were very few people in this game who were actually tolerable and decent human beings.
You guys don't pay me for playing, and when I realize that the thread basically consisted of your typical 13-year-old racist/homophobic/misogynistic insult-spewing XBox Live crowd, I cease to want to be here.
Andrew has games where he is pretty spot on actually. I remember when I first joined the site he was riding this high of a game he played where he got a large amount of scum lynched as a PR or something.
I support people replacing out because a game is no longer fun for them, but not because the game is boring. When the game crosses the line and makes you feel bad and you wish you hadn't played in it either through interactions with other players or the moderator, then for your own personal health I think a replace out is okay.
GreyIce is an idealist player. I am not sure why you all are acting so surprised when he replaced out for those reasons.
In post 3315, Oversoul wrote:Andrew has games where he is pretty spot on actually. I remember when I first joined the site he was riding this high of a game he played where he got a large amount of scum lynched as a PR or something.
I agree that he is a good player but I did look back at his posting and there is just....quite a few coincidences to beleive.
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And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative
I replaced out because the posting was drivel and then it turned excessively toxic.
Basically it boils down to this: the game was hellishly tough to follow due to people being jerks, and then RedFF turned the jerk dial up to 11 and the rest of the thread pretty much said 'yep, we're cool with that' and I realized there were very few people in this game who were actually tolerable and decent human beings.
You guys don't pay me for playing, and when I realize that the thread basically consisted of your typical 13-year-old racist/homophobic/misogynistic insult-spewing XBox Live crowd, I cease to want to be here.
omg
do you stiill think that word actually means anything about burning people at the stake
In post 3316, GreyICE wrote:Yeah, but see, I have it on good authority Andrew shares an IP address with Praetyre, a member of the scumteam who replaced out after one post.