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In post 58, UberNinja wrote:
Why is Parama town? I'm getting a distinctly different feeling, mainly from his shos-wagon hop.
Whether shos is town or scum is irrelevant; that hop in 39 followed by "This is beautiful" was scummy as fuck.
I was joking.
I will admit to not being sure about Shos or Parama right now.
Shos, who is scum and why?
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In post 184, Vi wrote:
And what if I was?In post 182, charter wrote:So you're still pushing a lynch on Parama for no reason? That's the main reason I'm voting you.
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In post 228, Nuwen wrote:In post 180, charter wrote:Vi, why did you wait until 52 to vote shos? Why not vote in 48?
I think Vi is scum. She has done nothing but push easy lynches on Shos and Parama, who, despite her claims, is not obvscum.
Unvote, Vote Vi
Yos and Nuwen, what is your read on Vi?
Vi isn't even kind of the lynch today, put your vote somewhere useful.
Scum do NOT often take an immediately post-RVS case and run with it for pages. You might see this behavior in less than one of any twenty mafia games with competent, attentive people. Scum have a tendency to chime in on formed wagons riiiiight about NOW in the gamestate, or lurk behind their RVS vote until there's enough content to compile a case.
Yes, clearly all scum follow the exact path you just laid out No one in this game could possibly smart enough to deviate from it. If you want me to vote someone besides Vi, you should try something productive (such as make a better case against someone than your case against Quilford), instead of whatever that mess was.
Starting to get suspicious of UN, as well. He is going way over the top with how everyone should think he is obvtown. Doubt anyone thinks he's obvtown. Plus he's going over the top with his buddying.-
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Alright, Chiaro is scum. That makes Parama probably town. Quilford's replacing out is certainly questionable, but I've seen more town do it lately than scum.
298 sums it up pretty well.
Chiaro wrote:However, you were also the first to draw attention to Parama, who I'm also finding scummy for claiming scum. Frankly, I wasn't comfortable calling him out on it due to knowledge of his meta but Vi's vote gives me more confidence. I'm not sure what to make of your interactions with him.
He's also been suspicious of Parama for claiming scum, even though he knows Parama would do it as town, but he doesn't say anything about it for a very long time. Then he blames Vi for his suspicion, saying 'well hey, Vi thinks it's scummy, so it must be'.
His change to Parama is scummy. Comes right after getting called out. His reason for voting Parama is terrible.
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In post 372, Nuwen wrote:At this point in the game, scum really have no choice but to attack their attackers.
how is this now the only acceptable strategy for scum, whereas a few pages ago it was
In post 228, Nuwen wrote:Scum do NOT often take an immediately post-RVS case and run with it for pages. You might see this behavior in less than one of any twenty mafia games with competent, attentive people. Scum have a tendency to chime in on formed wagons riiiiight about NOW in the gamestate, or lurk behind their RVS vote until there's enough content to compile a case.
It looks to me that scum only do whatever is most convenient to give some feeble backing to your "suspicions".
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In post 385, Yosarian2 wrote:In post 381, charter wrote:Can you explain how you think Kayne is the towniest person? Because that's a stretch to have him as town at all.
Was that directed at me? I never called him "the towniest person". He's looking pretty townish at this point, though. The way he's pushing Quilford/Elmo looks pretty sincere and pretty logical, and it looks like he's also looking for plausable scum partners and stuff.
It was. I deduced that you thought him the towniest person because there was no qualifier to your town read of him like others had. If he's not the towniest person in your eyes, who is then? I would disagree that the way he's pushing Quilford looks sincere or logical, as to me it looks like he's said very little about Quilford and has done even less of pushing a Quilford lynch.-
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Yos wrote:PPE: Eh, looks like Kanye already responded with most of the same points while I was typing. Probably better that he respond anyway. For that matter, charter, if you wanted to understand Kanye's vote, why did you ask me and not him?
I understand why Kanye is voting Quilford. When I read your post it looked to me like he was your number one townie, which I did not understand. That's why I asked you. If I had questions for Kayne about his vote on Quilford, I can ask him about it.-
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In post 384, charter wrote:In post 372, Nuwen wrote:At this point in the game, scum really have no choice but to attack their attackers.
how is this now the only acceptable strategy for scum, whereas a few pages ago it was
In post 228, Nuwen wrote:Scum do NOT often take an immediately post-RVS case and run with it for pages. You might see this behavior in less than one of any twenty mafia games with competent, attentive people. Scum have a tendency to chime in on formed wagons riiiiight about NOW in the gamestate, or lurk behind their RVS vote until there's enough content to compile a case.
It looks to me that scum only do whatever is most convenient to give some feeble backing to your "suspicions".
What's your read on Chiaro, Nuwen?
Hey Nuwen, please respond.
Right now, I think we should be lynching Chiaro. Those who have him as number two should switch over to him. In case no one has noticed, he's entered lurkmode. I would also go for a Vi lynch. I'd settle for UN or Nuwen if one of those becomes cool.-
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In post 516, Katsuki wrote:In post 514, charter wrote:Imagine that, Chiaro's suspects are those that are voting them?
So then what does that make him?
I think it suspicious of him. I think Chiaro is scum.
Yos, Vi said something like
"Lynch - (I have no idea since we never get votecounts)"
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I'm leaning towards both Uber and Yos being town. Uber for a myriad of terrible reasons, the latest is how he's trying to paint Yos's lack of careful reading as scummy when there's no way Yos can purposefully being pushing this to gain an advantage as scum. And leaning Yos town for the same reason and the "case" on him is quite terrible.-
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In post 537, Katsuki wrote:In post 534, charter wrote:In post 516, Katsuki wrote:In post 514, charter wrote:Imagine that, Chiaro's suspects are those that are voting them?
So then what does that make him?
I think it suspicious of him. I think Chiaro is scum.
Why is it suspicious of him?
If this is a serious question, then it obviously benefits scum to do nothing but attack those already suspicious of them. You piss off the least number of townies and manage to keep your head low while doing no real scumhunting at all.
Katsuki, do you plan on doing anything other than feeble attempts to soil my good name?
Uber is a subpar lynch for today and for me would boil down to 'I don't want this game ballooning to 100 pages and lynching UN is the only way to prevent that'. Add to it the fact that the people voting him (Nuwen and Yos and who else? We never get votecounts) were also voting for Quilford earlier with some supposed "slam dunk" case that everyone ignored because it wasn't very good. The wagon on UN is more of he's annoying than he's scum. Terrible reason to lynch over.
Nuwen refuses to be town or answer her read on Chiaro. I think both Nuwen and Chiaro are scum. I have had an uneasy feeling about Nuwen all game, how all she does is call others stupid and try and control them. She's only attacked easy targets with only a thin veil of scumhunting behind it. Yos is pretty close to falling in this category as well. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but Kanye belongs in this group too, right?
tl;dr
UN is a bad lynch.
Chiaro or Nuwen are good lynches, Yos or Kayne is an acceptable compromise.
Does anyone have a town read on Nuwen? I am wagering I'm not the only one who thinks she's scum.
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Nuwen is once again resorting to bullying now that her name has come up. Trying to scare people into doing what she wants with the threat of "blacklisting" (I'm sure we're all terrified) you if you don't do what she wants. Yosarian, how is this not scummy to you? Same question for anyone else who wants to answer.
I don't even see any hebrew symbol, and would assume it's only flavor as well. It obviously refers to voting during the day and the suspect being lynched.
Pirate posting in other games and lurking his pants off in this one. Very obvious this guy is scum.-
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Screw it. I continually fail to see how Yosarian can have a town read on Nuwen. It either boils down to they are scumbuddies, or Yos is aiming for townpoints because Nuwen is town.
Either way, I am pretty sure he can see the difference between what Nuwen said "Vote UN or you're blacklisted" and what he paraphrased.
Unvote, Vote Yosarian-
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Alright, I was just in a game with UN and his play was totally different. I had him as scum that game, and he responded totally different to pressure. I severely doubt UN is scum. That's one of the major reasons I'm not voting him. The other is the people voting for UN. All except for Yos and Zar don't even know what game we're playing here. This is not inspiring.
I would much prefer to lynch Pirate, but it's a crime to split votes
It looks like Katsuki is able to post after all. He's just unable to post anything useful. I'd be more than happy to lynch him as well, since if it doesn't happen today, I'm going to keep wanting it every day.-
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In post 835, charter wrote:Alright, I was just in a game with UN and his play was totally different. I had him as scum that game, and he responded totally different to pressure. I severely doubt UN is scum. That's one of the major reasons I'm not voting him. The other is the people voting for UN. All except for Yos and Zar don't even know what game we're playing here. This is not inspiring.
I would much prefer to lynch Pirate, but it's a crime to split votes
It looks like Katsuki is able to post after all. He's just unable to post anything useful. I'd be more than happy to lynch him as well, since if it doesn't happen today, I'm going to keep wanting it every day.
Prefer to lynch Pirate or Katsuki over Yosarian.-
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In post 861, kanyeknowsbest wrote:btw something id like to point out that ive been thinking a little about, this wagon (Elmo TeH AzN (4): Nuwen, kanyeknowsbest, Yosarian2, Furcolow,) did not get pushed through by scum. i think its undeniable that i will take a lot of heat (the most out of ne1 on the wagon) should elmo flip town. 2 conclusions im gonna have to come back to after he flips eventually (i swear to god if he makes it more than a few days without flipping im gonna be steamin mad!!), scum refusing to bus or a scum heavy wagon that didnt get any town support.
Is there any possible way a townie makes this post? If this isn't trying to cover your ass for a wagon you know is on town, I don't know what is.-
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In post 851, Yosarian2 wrote:In post 835, charter wrote:Alright, I was just in a game with UN and his play was totally different. I had him as scum that game, and he responded totally different to pressure. I severely doubt UN is scum. That's one of the major reasons I'm not voting him.
Ok. I ISO'd UN's play in that game, and I'm not sure I really see the differnece. Can you spell it out for me?
I was on to him day two (day one lasted 3 pages) and his arguments were so ridiculous that I had to stop arguing with him altogether. I don't see that in this game.-
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