Abarat: Days of Magic, Nights of War Mafia (Endgame)

[Llamarble]

He admitted my read made sense anyway, so I don't know why you're pretending he looks town based on some boring superficial stuff.

I don't think I said that, but yeah I could see myself as mafia going 'Okay I just laboriously gave birth to a post and the hardest thing for me to do this game is going to be making a decent postcount so let's just acknowledge the wifom to make it not a scumtell and post it.'
I'll town eventually though, so no worries.
Anyway, putting lots of votes on me isn't going to help me with operation think clearly.

MoI's claim is weird, but if he makes it a 100% NO REDACTION claim I'll play along to lynch 1/3.
I can buy its existence in the setup from Hito.

[Flash]

though Flash failed the reaction test pretty hard.

Your vote for me sucked.

Even if MoI is telling the truth, something I'm not entirely convinced of, I'd rather lynch people I find scummy than people within his set, if those 2 things overlap, sure I'll use it as a tie breaker. They don't at the moment.

Unvote vote Llamarble

@Chamber-head of Flash – as soon as you get a read on Minimum’s posting (specifically CES) please share it with us.

He seems town so far, but I don't trust myself to catch him reliably before d2-3, if hes scum he'll have shot me by then, which is how the rest of the town will catch him.

fwiw, i think MOI is legit...

So it looks to me that Bella/Chess/Peta is a good start for the day then...

Unvote

I like Chess' #26...

Don't like how Bella jumped on the quick growing MOI wagon that was building up right off the bat...

Peta could go either way for me...

Vote: Bella

Why the ellipses?

[AGar]

erm.... so what? I wasn't asking for their flavor knowledge of their pm, but rather of the arabat book/this game in general. What I want to know, exactly, is who the probable scum team is from an informed flavor standpoint, and who the good guys are.

And you don't think there would be fakeclaims provided?

Also really not big on the 1-of-3 deal with MoI, feels way too gambity on my part considering all 3 are players he'd openly prefer to policy lynch on an account of simply not liking them.

[sword_of_omens]

Why the ellipses?

i wouldn't read anything into them...call me 12 or whatever, that's just how i type...a single period just seems too nekkid to me...

Also really not big on the 1-of-3 deal with MoI, feels way too gambity on my part considering all 3 are players he'd openly prefer to policy lynch on an account of simply not liking them.

i didn't see where MOI mentioned that he would prefer a policy lynch on all 3 or that he doesn't like all 3? Unless it's common knowledge that i'm not aware of?

[Fate]

erm.... so what? I wasn't asking for their flavor knowledge of their pm, but rather of the arabat book/this game in general. What I want to know, exactly, is who the probable scum team is from an informed flavor standpoint, and who the good guys are.

And you don't think there would be fakeclaims provided?

Also really not big on the 1-of-3 deal with MoI, feels way too gambity on my part considering all 3 are players he'd openly prefer to policy lynch on an account of simply not liking them.

Yeah let's kill this dead please.

Reck why the FUCK aren't you being a HELPER

[AGar]

i didn't see where MOI mentioned that he would prefer a policy lynch on all 3 or that he doesn't like all 3? Unless it's common knowledge that i'm not aware of?

Read his first post where he votes petapan, he makes it fairly obvious that he has a high level of disdain for all 3 of them.

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@Fate

I'm not Mina. I'm not going to go the same route as her in trying to find out the meaning behind something. Suck it up.

[petapan]

no way he's a cool + mature guy that would never grudge lynch

[Hinduragi]

And yes I've come to the realization all too late that IC isn't. The best for me. I'm sure people did it just so they wouldn't have to be paranoid about me, but a lot of my reads come from interacting with people.

Aka
NEW DECREE: AVOIDANCE OR IGNORING MY SLOT IS PUNISHABLE BY DEATH

PRINCESIDENT FATE IS NOT ABOVE ANY OF YOU. I AM ONE OF THE DAY, AND I WILL BE IN THE TRENCHES WITH YOU, SO TREAT ME AS SUCH

Yes. I voted you for IC so I could not be paranoid about you when I can read you anyways and not so that there wouldn't be 3 confirmed town.

Anyways, dropping in to say Fate's right. Izzy is town as fuck.

I can buy any of Marble, Agar, Petapan, and OAFE right now.

Anyway, putting lots of votes on me isn't going to help me with operation think clearly.

?????
PROBLEM? I don't see how this isn't a gigantic wagon from this alone.

Someone roll out the red carpet on Petapan town or stop trolling.

[Untrod Tripod]

Yeahhhhhhhhhh I'm with president Fate on this one

unvote, vote AGar

his post #102 was bad news bears.

I'm having a hard time seeing chesskid as town from his interactions with MoI, but I'll let it slide for now since we're apparently frying other fish at the moment. Shin I think is town, petapan I'm not really able to get a read on, MoI is probtown. that's all I've got at the moment.

[Flash]

Agar seems fine?

[Shmugen]

The stakes are too low for Magna to be making that up. One of the three is scum? Where's the scum motivations in that kind of shenanigan. If he's scum and we believe him wholeheartedly (aint gonna happen), we'd lynch 3 town and then one scum. More likely we'd lynch one, one would get vigged if such a role exists, and if none flipped scum we'd kill Magna. It seems possible that Commexo could be among the 3, but things are usually against the SK anyway, I doubt a renowned mod like Hito would do such a thing. Magna is not always the most fun to play with, but this gambit is too high risk low reward for scum to pull off.

I'm torn on Shinori. Am I really just thinking he's too new and would pull those sorts of extreme reactions? Some of you have townreads on the slot, why so?

5

[hitogoroshi]

VC 5 (Session 1, VC 5)

(6)

Shinori:

Nuwen, petapan, Staeg, Llamarble, chesskid3, Shmugen [L-6]
(3)

Llamarble:

Minimum, Hinduragi, Flash
(2)

AGar:

The Two In One, Untrod Tripod
(2)

petapan:

Strain

, 4nxi3ty

(Untrod Tripod)

(2)

OnceAndForEver:

RedCoyote, Karen Walker
(2)

chesskid3:

Strain

, Shinori
(2)

Bella:

MagnaofIllusion, sword_of_omens
(1)

MagnaOfIlluision:

Bella

(The Two In One, Karen Walker)

(1)

Flash:

Seraphim

(sword_of_omens)

(1)

Minimum:

Magister Ludi
(1)

Magister Ludi:

AGar
(1)

Fate:

Strain

(0)

Seraphim:

(Shinori, Flash)

(2)

Not Voting:

Nachomamma8, OnceAndForEver

Post Counts

This is a Replenishment Votecount. All players have their post limits reset. The next replenishment votecount will be in roughly 24 hours, although as with today may not be 8pm on the dot.

Permenant Strain:

chesskid3

(1),

petapan

(1),

Fate

(1)

With 23 votes in play, it takes 12 to lynch.

Automatic Termination of the First Session

(expired on 2012-07-31 19:00:00)

Nachomamma8 is V/LA until Saturday.

I am the Alpha and the Zeta apparently

AND I DAMN SURE HAVE MORE STARS THAN CHESSKID HITO

Thanks for bringing this to my attention, it has been fixed in the offending votecount.

[chesskid3]

DO FUCKING TELL UT

Unvote

VOTE: UT

LETS DANCE

I PREFER TO WALTZ

[petapan]

Where's the scum motivations in that kind of shenanigan. If he's scum and we believe him wholeheartedly (aint gonna happen), we'd lynch 3 town and then one scum.

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhm

[Shmugen]

Note how the parenthetical implies there's no way we'd waste 3 lynches on something like this without confirmation of MoI's towniness.

Put it like this. A cop targets MoI, finds he's scum. In order to not get instantly murdered and generate some confirmed town, scuMoI HAS to include a scumbuddy in that list. It's a silly low-impact gambit for scuMoI.

1. I felt so smooth sliding that fifth post in before the replenishment. Oh yeah.

[chesskid3]

oh oh oh yaeh I had a problem with you

nobody is saying MoI is pushing SCUMGENDA here

they are saying MoI is pushing POLICYGENDA + LOLTHERE'SPROLLY1SCUMHERE

[OnceAndForEver]

Chess is town, Moi isn't gambiting, bella or peta.

Now going by this logic I doubt the game is so unbalanced as to have two night aligned players within MOI'S Three, though I suppose one and the SK is not outside the realm of possibility.

Bella's vote on MOI is horrible, but there are also only four posts there. Now this post by peta:

if you're pulling lol epic reaction test shenanigans you're not going to get anything from me

but if you're on the level then that's pretty cool info, actually, though you being a huge baby isn't, not that i'd expect any less

i'll believe that info because i just did a detailed re-read of the entire thread complete with notes and deduced that chesskid is scum

VOTE: chesskid3

as well as this one:

In post 67, MagnaofIllusion wrote:So if you are saying you are Day aligned you have at worst a 50-50 shot between Chess and Bella. Do you think the odds on Shin flipping scum are greater than that?

my read on him is stronger than my read on chesskid/bella

Make me believe he could easily be scum, thus VOTE: Peta

Karen, I can see this as a scum gambit, or a town truth. But do tell who in their right mind would pull this shit (if it is untrue) as town?

[chesskid3]

who in their right mind would pull this shit (if it is untrue) as town?

[OnceAndForEver]

Your Image Tag is Broken.

[chesskid3]

who in their right mind would pull this shit (if it is untrue) as town?

[AGar]

The stakes are too low for Magna to be making that up. One of the three is scum? Where's the scum motivations in that kind of shenanigan. If he's scum and we believe him wholeheartedly (aint gonna happen), we'd lynch 3 town and then one scum. More likely we'd lynch one, one would get vigged if such a role exists, and if none flipped scum we'd kill Magna. It seems possible that Commexo could be among the 3, but things are usually against the SK anyway, I doubt a renowned mod like Hito would do such a thing. Magna is not always the most fun to play with, but this gambit is too high risk low reward for scum to pull off.

I'm torn on Shinori. Am I really just thinking he's too new and would pull those sorts of extreme reactions? Some of you have townreads on the slot, why so?

5

This isn't a scumgambit MOI is pulling, it's an "I don't like these people, let's get three successive policy lynches through and I might get lucky and not have to play with them" gambit.

[Karen Walker]

Karen, I can see this as a scum gambit, or a town truth. But do tell who in their right mind would pull this shit (if it is untrue) as town?

An overconfident player who thinks their reads are the fucking bible

I've played with enough people on this playerlist enough times to see some crazy ass gambits show up, regardless as alignment

[Karen Walker]

erm.... so what? I wasn't asking for their flavor knowledge of their pm, but rather of the arabat book/this game in general. What I want to know, exactly, is who the probable scum team is from an informed flavor standpoint, and who the good guys are.

And you don't think there would be fakeclaims provided?

Also really not big on the 1-of-3 deal with MoI, feels way too gambity on my part considering all 3 are players he'd openly prefer to policy lynch on an account of simply not liking them.

Yeah let's kill this dead please.

Reck why the FUCK aren't you being a HELPER

I really don't see scum AGAR placing a reasonless vote then trying to back it up after the fact

[OnceAndForEver]

But this early? Really? This happened before post one hundred, No one is stupid enough to have bible level belief in their reads without at least a couple hundred posts. (Given that there have been no slips). I just don't see this happening, I'm sorry.

[Hinduragi]

But this early? Really? This happened before post one hundred, No one is stupid enough to have bible level belief in their reads without at least a couple hundred posts. (Given that there have been no slips). I just don't see this happening, I'm sorry.

This is very relevant to the discussion at hand. How new are you to this site? And is this your main?