Open 434: Fire and Ice - GAME OVER

[TraceyLyn11]

VOTE COUNT 5.2

[L-2] Malakittens:

[L-2] Dry-fit:

[L-2] Klick:

Not Voting:

3 (Malakittens, Dry-fit, Klick)

• With three alive, it takes two to lynch.
  
• Day Five's deadline: October 23, 2012 CST or in (expired on 2012-10-23 21:28:00).
  
• V/LA: No one.

"Remember, remember the fifth of November,
The gunpowder treason and plot.
I know of no reason,
Why the gunpowder treason,
Should ever be forgot."

-V (

V for Vendetta

) or Guy Fawkes

[TraceyLyn11]

Bump.

[Malakittens]

Scum Klicks like to hold the hammer in LyLo.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=125
(May or may not count as it did go into a Night 3 in order for him to win, did hammer though Day before)

Scum Klick votes during LyLo (before the hammer):

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=100


Town Klick:

Votes during LyLo. (Does not Hammer)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=23209
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=23446 (Uh, may not count since he did unvote before he was lynched. >.>)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=100
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=23549

That above is for his newest account. Below will be for his old account.
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Scum Kondi (Holding the Hammer vote and voting in LyLo):

Fakeclaimed Cop as scum, but managed to lose to a governor role. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=23015
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=22320

Scum Kondi (Hammering in LyLo)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=22638

Town Kondi (Hammering vote in LyLo)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=22263

Town Kondi (Non Hammering vote in LyLo)

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=22181
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=22956
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=22043
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=21946

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There's a whole another page, but old-Kondi was his more recent games.

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Like I said I have played with scum Klick before and he's known to do things that shouldn't be done as scum. I have already linked one example from one of my first games on this site.

Question to myself would be: Are we dealing with a scum-Klondi holding the vote or are we dealing with a town-Klondi holding the vote.

Klondi does have the point that PM doesn't bus, in his scum games, but doesn't mean that PM can't learn and it doesn't mean that Klondi couldn't have said anything during pre-game.

Sadly gut is still pinging at Dry for the remaining scum, but since Dry only has one scum game and he replaced during it. I'm not able to correctly meta him as well as I'd like too.

(And yes you have been renamed to Klondi. Kl = Klick, Ondi = Kondi)

[Klick]

Do the same study, but only include 3p LyLos. Voting in 5p is fun; voting in 3p is stupid.

[Dry-fit]

Mala why didn't you respond to my post about about the inconsistency of your reads this game day? Why did you go from saying it was probably Klick at daystart but then switch to suspecting me?

[Malakittens]

Dry-Fit I don't know who the last scum is. All I have is a feeling and a bunch of posts. In which both of you look like you can go either way for PM's partner.

Klick doing the whole I claim VT! on D1 on Page 1 makes me think of something similar he did on a game I played before expect he asked if the scum had daytalk which game him town points for. Then with him with holding information, asking for others information before giving his own just made me wonder if it was him. His JMT regarding well PM hasn't bussed, why would I tell him to bus I wouldn't post made me also suspect him more. Then we have the Jal NK which honestly leads to both of you.

I instantly thought that the NK for Tech rather than me was in a way looking as if it was setting you up. Then reading back at your posts between PM on D1/D2 you still look like you can be his partner.

So conclusion:

I'm town, but I have no fucking clue who the last scum is.

Klick isn't playing normally and you don't really have a finished scum game where you didn't replace out of to compare.

[Klick]

Hey look, everyone's here.

Do the same study, but only include 3p LyLos. Voting in 5p is fun; voting in 3p is stupid.

[Malakittens]

Really Kilick.. I don't have enough time to go through old games and do it. I do have schoolwork to focus on now. >.>

[Dry-fit]

I don't really know if I want to encourage more of this meta stuff, but I do have more scum games I didn't replace into:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16887
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=13878

[Klick]

I'll give you a hint, Mala. Only two of the games you listed were 3p LyLos. They were both town games, and I voted early in one and late in the other. (I lost both -_-)

Some games you listed weren't even in LyLo.

[Klick]

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[TraceyLyn11]

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[Klick]

Dry-Fit actually hasn't posted around site for two days, so there's not really anything against him, but Mala, you should be posting here.

[Malakittens]

Well. There's nothing to say. I have always voted first in LyLo and lost and I want a town win.

The townies are scared to vote, but the scum wants the hammer. >,>

[Dry-fit]

Mala did you look at my other scum games I posted?

[Malakittens]

I did.

[Dry-fit]

Okay. Did you get anything out of it?

[Klick]

Five days...

[Klick]

Seriously...

I've already given substantial evidence for why I'm town, AND I feel confident that I can hammer right. Here's something for you guys to comment on; either explain why I'm not as town as I'm showing, explain why the other person also looks town, or vote the other person.

[Malakittens]

Kay Klick, let's end this then.

Vote: Dry-Fit

[Dry-fit]

Well, there it is. I've had a hard time deciding who I thought was scum more because my gut said Klick and my brain said mala. But it looks like my decision's been made for me. Also lol at giving no reason for voting me even though you've been saying you couldn't choose between the two of us.

Vote: Malakittens

Alright Klick, let's hear your reasoning.

[Klick]

VOTE: Mala

[Malakittens]

Well. Klick if you were town bad job, but if scum great gambit. >.>

Good game guys.

[Malakittens]

Have a bad feeling you were scum and I second guessed gut and facts and just lost this for us. >.>

[Klick]

...you were town?

Honestly,

everything

added up to you.