Open 439 - Less Pressure - Final

[drmyshotgun]

The post that got deleted after I died was something like this:

@drmyshotgun: Was all of that necessary?

"Sigh" I hate this town. Half of them are stupid and they vote for someone that's been bullied this whole game by Noctis. I'm sorry, but this is not a good town at all. Now we wait for the next stupid person to claim cop.

VOTE: PMysterious

I feel like committing suicide.

How is this something a Town would do?
Noctis giving Town-read on PMyst for doing something like this can only be buddying another player and/or giving Towncred to his scum partner.

[Om of the Nom]

My slot was town because I was town, not because of the derp before me.

[Voidedmafia]

Voided you were the whole reason I started to second guess all my reads just fyi

...Cmon...

PMysterious has NOT been blacklisted, but if enough players do not want him in, I'll remove him.

I would HIGHLY suggest not letting him play in any games you mod unless at least one or two people can vouch that he has vastly improved as a player. Regardless of the situation regarding his replacement, I think it was made clear that PM is very, very bad and honestly shouldn't venture out of the newbie queue for awhile.

Rule Change - Self-Voting will not get you force-replaced.

Probably best. I suppose I can understand your viewpoint (I think I touched on that back when you force-replaced PM), but I do think that there are times when it is acceptable like the example I had given. It's always up to your discretion, though.

The rest I agree with.

[BK201]

Om, you're easy to read but at the same time difficult to read b/c I'm not sure how aware you are of your actual meta xD

I have still yet to see Drm as scum, and still holds up to the standard that he is always town.

I agree with what Voided said about PM.

[drmyshotgun]

Jinglederp clearly didn't want to play.
He just joined like 3 million games and is approaching the level of universally hated player in this site.
His replacement was great to see here, Feirei.

[Om of the Nom]

I'm pretty aware but my meta constantly changes. I have trouble adjusting my scum play to be the same as my town meta because of it, which is why it's completely valid when I self-meta as town.

PEDIT: OF COURSE HIS REPLACEMENT WAS GREAT BECAUSE I WAS HIS REPLACEMENT.

[Voidedmafia]

PEDIT: OF COURSE HIS REPLACEMENT WAS GREAT BECAUSE I WAS HIS REPLACEMENT.

That's not really the point...

[drmyshotgun]

Om.. posts like "I'm Town, you dit :p" rarely help;;

[Om of the Nom]

They do, just like asking someone if they're scum.
Trivia: I caught the last scum in LYLO once by asking the remaining players if they were scum. The person who's response made me suspicious ended up getting lynched and flipped scum.

[Feirei]

RE: 477

I understand your views, and I actually agree with them.

[Voidedmafia]

They do, just like asking someone if they're scum.
Trivia: I caught the last scum in LYLO once by asking the remaining players if they were scum. The person who's response made me suspicious ended up getting lynched and flipped scum.

That may be the case, but it's a bit too unreliable to be usuable in all but very few cases, or at least used with discretion and care.

P-EDIT: Well, thank you for considering my thoughts, Fei.

Do you agree with both what I think about PM and the rule regarding self-voting, or just one or the other?

[Om of the Nom]

I wasn't expecting it to work this time anyway, I just literally had nothing to go on. It works much better in 3p LYLO though.

[Feirei]

@ 485: Both.

[Voidedmafia]

I wasn't expecting it to work this time anyway, I just literally had nothing to go on. It works much better in 3p LYLO though.

Ah.

Why does it work better there, though?

Fei: I see.

[Om of the Nom]

Because there is less people, making a difference in the reactions much larger, therefore easier to discern.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Oh yeah. I was going to apologise to gunny for the really crappy lynch. This is how all my games offsite seemed to go, except worse.

[drmyshotgun]

Nah that was what you guys needed. Lol. Why'd you apologize for scum lynching town?

[RachMarie]

Sorry my predecessor was such a derp but I did enjoy the challenge of being in at the last day and still helping pull it off. What was it about me that made people think I was town or was it just that Trevor was so adamant it made him look more scummy ?

[Om of the Nom]

The latter mainly.

[drmyshotgun]

Your predecessor gave you Towncred for all the wrong reasons (to me).
He claimed to have been insulted by my interrogation and requested replacement.
Then he proceeded onto return to the game when the heat on him died out.
I thought it was Towntell for someone to replace out and then come back, but looks like Noctis used that to just troll around and as heat died on him, he just came back.
And he lurked his way on to get replaced (well, he site-flaked?).

As I've said, everyone was pretty anti-town and I thought win-loss was just flip-flopping depending on who makes first better move.

[RachMarie]

Replacing out in general is a null tell and can be done by either town or scum, I have no idea why Noctis did what he did since I have never played with him before. I mainly focused on playing as me and tried to gently encourage people to think Trevor was scum.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Nah that was what you guys needed. Lol. Why'd you apologize for scum lynching town?

I apologize because, as I said, this is how all my pre-mafiascum games went, and I was generally in your position this game, even if I did way worse.

[noctis_nox]

Oh! so I am blacklisted.
Sorry If was really busy.

[RachMarie]

If you are really busy you can go V/LA for a few days or replace out of a game with no problem, it is better than just being a no show.

[PMysterious]

I was actually surprised about being force-replaced. I thought I'd actually be more useful.