Open 440 - Donner Party - Game Over

[BK201]

Well cool thing is we at least have 1 of Dietician/Roleblocker alive, since Nacho is the only role I don't know and the others were VT/Maf.

I probably die tonight, my kill goes off. Roleblocker and/or Dietician coordinate with me.

[Malakittens]

Okay, let's wait for Ny to claim if he has either role.

Then we'll work together BK, okay?

[BK201]

Nyalite, are you Roleblocker or not?

[Whiskers]

Hnn... Nya only has one post in the game-- and that was a couple of days ago.
Time to start looking for another replacement?

[yellowbounder]

Use your finger to stir my tea

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  everyone

With 6 alive,

it's 4 to lynch.

Jal replaces Nyalite. So we're back where we started.

[Jal]

I've been trying to replace back in starting Monday night so Nya couldn't post during the transition.

I'm the RBer.

Roleblocked McStab N1 and Snowy N2 which apparently meant nothing whatsoever given Om making the kill.

Thinking Mala is actually scum. It was pretty obvious after Snowy's post I was the only one who could claim role blocker after that. Even if I were scum, why wouldn't I claim a PR killed? Yet she has kept trying to to push for me today and with crap logic to boot.

BK. Seriously you have got to be kidding. Nacho could have be the RB'er actually. Clearly if Snowy isn't, Inte isn't, Whiskers isn't and you aren't the RB'er. If OM killed Cobber and he wasn't the RB'er and if McStab wasn't.

Process of elimination I am actually town.
Since:
A) No one Counter claimed me for Town Dietician
B) No one is claiming to be the roleblocker.

Not only does this not clear Mala for obvious reasons (Nacho could have been dietician), again, I was the only one to claim Roleblocker and.. that does not clear Mala whatsoever? Also, why wasn't Mala killed last night over Cobbler?

@Mala, I already responded to you earlier that one exchange between Nacho and I about the vig isn't "rolefishing for the vig all D1" and you didn't respond. Now think closely, why do you think I asked if the vig if they killed a PR should maybe out that? Because I was worried I would be vigged that night given some of the suspicion on me. At the time I thought it may have been Om, because a comment she made earlier regarding killing the serial killer. I've noticed when reviewing Om's games that they like to subtly hint at who they are. Even scum.

But funnily enough, you didn't realize I was fishing for the vig -

all of D2

. Only two people were suspicious of McStab D1 - BK and I at the end. Om had said McStab was a town read which made me doubt my original theory. Which is why I kept asking BK:

@BK: I want you to focus on the following question I am about to ask you. Think hard. Think long. Don't take it at face value. Send brain waves if necessary:

Yes or No?

Which I was referring to game 426 in which he was a vig. "Are you the vig?" I still wasn't sure though. Although, when I suggested later on in the day that I was thinking of a BK lynch, he said his lynch wasn't happening today, which made me slightly more confident, but not totally sure to go down the path of killing TheFool who was a town read.

Did you seriously miss these signs? And if I noticed them, why didn't I kill BK again? There is a slight possibility Om was the vig, but I don't think Om would have killed Cobbler instead of White, so I am going to believe BK. Or if I am just blowing smoke out of my ass now, why didn't I kill

you

who had me as a scum read all of D2 and had a good possibility of outing a scum Jal today?

[Jal]

Speculation means crap all though. I can actually clear myself tonight depending on what happens - even by role blocking Mala tonight. I'll get to this later though. I have things to do and I won't be back for about 15 hours. See you then.

[Malakittens]

Okay which means Snowy or Whiskers are scum. Kletsdothis.
Yeah. I'd go higher on Snowy than Whiskers, but one should be lynched and then the other vigged and if that doesn't end it you can lynch me in LyLo.

[inte]

Lunch snowy

Rb mala

Shoot whiskers

If anyone dies lynch jal

ez win cya

Unless bk is scum but it was a good time to claim so

[Malakittens]

Words of wisdom.

[Whiskers]

Okay.

[inte]

am i missing anything?

and "Lunch" is the greatest accidental pun

VOTE: Snowy

[Malakittens]

That and autocorrect is a bitch

[BK201]

So going over your plan, Inte.

Lynch Snowy. 5 town 0 maf or 4 town 1 maf.
RB Mala. (I thought of the only way that could go wrong but that theory would turn into a forced town-win, just slightly delayed.)
Shoot Whiskers? I realize with Mala being RB'd that if another death other than Whiskers occurred then Jal would be the scum. (since it'd be inte/mala/jal) I tried revising your plan so I don't have to shoot Whiskers if this game goes to night 4 but if I left Whiskers alive it would give up the guaranteed win.

VOTE: Snowy

Go with Inte's plan.

[BK201]

Jal, you being town and not going with this plan is the only way we lose the guaranteed win, so please RB Mala.

[Malakittens]

Okay!

Bai bai Snowy.
Bk kills Whiskers.
I attempt to investigate Jal.
Jal Rbs me.
Inte is cleared.

I think we have a win here as long as BK/Jal aren't scum.

vote: Snowy

[BK201]

Mala, I thought about how the only way the plan to RB you could go wrong is if Jal (or Whiskers, but I'm killing him for this plan to be 100%) is scum and opts to no-kill in order to frame you, however I would be alive if scum no-killed and even if we miss-lynched that day it would be myself, inte, and the final scum going into night. So still a guaranteed win if Jal is scum.

Literally the only way this plan can go wrong is if I'm scum.

[inte]

investigate bk

[BK201]

DO IT. LOL.

[inte]

omg bk why would you say that

[BK201]

It doesn't matter. We win as long as town-Jal Roleblocks Mala.

[inte]

or fakelcaim town jal fake roleblocks mala and mala investigates you

cya

[BK201]

If Jal is a VT fakeclaiming Roleblocker then all I have to say is WTF. If that's what you're saying by "fakeclaim town jal".

If Jal is scum fakeclaiming Roleblocker then it literally does not matter what Jal does. She's done. If anyone besides Whiskers dies (let's assume me), it'll be mala/jal/inte. Inte is confirmed town so...obviously its Jal since town-Jal would have prevented scum-Mala from killing. ALSO, if scum-Jal opts to no-kill to frame Mala, I'd be alive. mala/jal/inte/bk in Day 4, lynch mala. Night 4 jal/inte/bk, jal kills whoever, I kill Jal, Town win.

[inte]

tru last man standing

OR,

VT jal fake roleblocks mala. cop mala investigates you. cop mala gets a innocent on you, we lynch nobody and win because violence is bad

[BK201]

I can't see why VT-Jal would fake-claim in this situation. Jal seems to believe me, so being able to trust my information on the missing players, VT-Jal knows there is only one unconfirmed missing role(nacho). In VT-Jal's eyes, it could be the Roleblocker or even the Dietician. However, everyone other than Jal has claimed to not be the Roleblocker, so VT-Jal must know that either Nacho was the Roleblocker and scum decided to not claim it -- which makes Mala confirmed town to Jal, OR scum-Mala killed the Roleblocker and fake-claimed Dietician with no counter-claim(lol).

In other words, the only way Jal is a VT who is fake-claiming RB... is if Mala killed the RB night 1, and fake-claimed Dietician day 2 with no counter-claim(lol).