Open 445: Fight or Flight - {Game Over!}

[Om of the Nom]

Posting to say I'm not hammering.
I'm confirmed town now.

[Malakittens]

That doesn't really confirm you, but it makes me trust you more.
I'm town btw. >.>

[Om of the Nom]

It does confirm me.
If I'm scum I basically would have ended the game there.

[Malakittens]

Oh and for the record. If I was scum I would have clearly made a lot better argument than Uct is scum because he was the last to confirm + gut vibes.

Anyways let's wait for RD.

[Rainbowdash]

It does confirm me.
If I'm scum I basically would have ended the game there.

Well this will probably get me hammered and I really hope result in a draw, but whatever, I think its only way to possibly get a win at the same time.

I was hoping OOTN would say something like the above if Mala voted me because its a grab at town points that are obviously not there. Him as scum, if he did commute (I think he didnt), could at best result in a draw outside of a strong gambit from Mala. Either way, its not a win. If he did commute its a 50-50 win as scum and if he didnt commute its a 50-50 loss/draw.

Really, he is trying to use the fact that I didnt commute as a tell when its the right move regardless of alignment again. His entire case is null tells and its really "I think RBD is just good scum" if you want to make it that simple. Again, this is probably going to get me lynched unless Mala gets here first, but I think its the right play.

Vote OOTN

I think the strongest arugement I can show for being town here comes down to actually realizing I could improve a plan that would make it much harder for me to win, and my inital plan (first three lynched stop) could probably have gotten a win, which is the only way scum have much of a chance in this game. I probably could have pulled from a Max, Matt, DJD, Mala pool if I pushed hard enough and just won flat out.

[Shiidaji]

{Day 2}

Vote Count

• Rainbowdash (1):
  Malakittens
  
• Om of the Nom (1):
  Rainbowdash
  
• Not voting (1):
  Om of the Nom

With 3 alive it is 2 to lynch.

[Om of the Nom]

@Mod: What happens if the remaining scum and townie shoot each-other in the event of a mislynch today? What happens if neither of them die?

@RBD: Get your vote off me until the mod can answer these.

[Om of the Nom]

Argh tags :P

[Om of the Nom]

Actually wait...
If scum win a 1v1 if they are still alive (whether or not the townie is dead), this game is basically impossible to win unless we lynch scum today, since scum can always just commute during the night (except not me since I'm A)Town and B) out of commutes).

[Om of the Nom]

You know what?
VOTE: RBD
What made me decide it was you is how yesterday you were arguing that I'm highly unfamiliar with the setup, yet you vote me for an attempt to grab townies points that are supposedly not there. If I don't understand the mechanics then I wouldn't be doing it deliberately, which makes me think he's just using that as fluff to strengthen his case.

Mala, if you are scum, congrats.
RBD, if you're town, your plan put us from a normal position into an almost confirmed loss. This game is definitely not as breakable as you think.

[Shiidaji]

@Mod: What happens if the remaining scum and townie shoot each-other in the event of a mislynch today? What happens if neither of them die?

- In the event of a mislynch that results in a 1 vs 1 between Scum and Town, the game's results depend on night actions. If both shoot, both die and the game ends in a draw (Scorched Earth). If neither of them die Night 2, then we proceed straight to Night 3, and so on and so forth. I hope that answered your question.

[Shiidaji]

{Day 2}

Final Vote Count

• Rainbowdash (2):
  Malakittens, Om of the Nom
  
• Om of the Nom (1):
  Rainbowdash

With 3 alive it is 2 to lynch.

- Mod scene incoming, may post tomorrow morning due to time constraints.

[Shiidaji]

{A Lynch!}

~-FLAVOR-~




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Rainbowdash, the Mafia Goon, has been lynched Day 2

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- The Town {

DoubleJD, Om of the Nom, Mattilou, Malakittens, Maxous

} win!

- Mod notes coming shortly.

[Shiidaji]

{Mod Notes}

Thank you for playing. The setup interested me when I first requested it (I was aiming for Hard Boiled at first, but that didn't pan out.), but now it feels like little more than a novelty. Rainbowdash's opinions of the setup being townsided are spot-on, ask him about it if you want to hear about it in further detail.

Sorry about the lack of flavor, I'll try to fill it in when I have free time, I'm still pretty busy and don't have much time to think of any that'd be presentable.

[Shiidaji]

{Mod Notes II}

Quicktopics

Moderator QuickTopic - http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/J2ABLRuXT8f8X

Dead QuickTopic - http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/tJ9K6rPVQ6QL

Scum QuickTopic - http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/PkUyBAastP2 (SO MUCH PLANNING)

Night Actions

Night 1

DoubleJD - Shoot Maxous
Om of the Nom- Commute
MattiLou - Shoot DoubleJD
Malakittens - No Action
Rainbowdash - No Action
Maxous - Shoot Mattilou

- Again, thanks for playing.

[Malakittens]

Oh yay

[uctriton00]

So weird; I try to be an aggressive scumhunter, and wham it puts me into the discussion of possibly being lynched. Bad game for me.

[Malakittens]

No that's not really what did it. I was surprised you didn't try harder to defend from the argument of gut+ last to confirm. It just confirmed that more, but also helped confirm a Max-Town for me.

[uctriton00]

I was impressed that RBD made it that far. I was completely expecting everyone to commute night 1, thinking "lol i'm town, why am i going to voluntarily die".

[Malakittens]

Part of me also lol. I expected at least Max not to do it. >< though couldn't get rid of those vibes of scum RD was giving off about the whole commute and being a hero. It felt scum because town wouldn't have been that scared.

[Malakittens]

Oh Om what would have been your plan of actions if I was scum to your plan of actions if you were scum on a draw?

[DoubleJD]

Sigh, i was spot on about RBD. Thats twice now shes been able to convince otherwise *fist shake*

[Rainbowdash]

Broken game is horribly broken. Not much more to say.

Town wins about 81% playing randomly, only hope was to go all out and get lucky. Didnt have any other option when I replaced into a should have been lynched already slot and Uticon looked really scummy too.

Call ABCDEFG the players and scum only wins if G is scum (14%) or E and F are scum.

[Salamence20]

Sigh, i was spot on about RBD. Thats twice now shes been able to convince otherwise *fist shake*

RBD's meta is to break the game, regardless of alignment. She likes to be town leader.

[Om of the Nom]

Holy shit I was right!
Fuck that was intense as hell!
Man, I'm glad I managed to see through RBD instead of continuing to sheep him. That was great play on your part, you almost had me completely fooled.
GG all. This was definitely a great game for me. My initial reads were almost completely spot on.

@Mala: I probably would have not shot during the night, since I thought you would have commuted. Same goes as scum.

(postan from school)