Open 446: C9++ (Avast! Viruses!) - GAME OVER

[Cartographer]

Always so convenient they post after I call them out

[Nachomamma8]

Always so convenient they post after I call them out

I know; I've been frantically refreshing, waiting for someone to ask where I was so I could post that summary I had typed up in case the replacement wanted one.

[Cartographer]

It took you half an hour to post a summary you already had?

[Aunt Jemina]

Reading inte's iso, the ending of it was devoted to Applejack, not to Nacho. Before that, it was Stabby. Before that,

i didn't want apple to be lynched today (preferably cartographer or

maybe

DY) but at this point switching would not benefit my reads

inte was more suspicious of you, carty.

Going through the other dead...Rainbow's last mention of a living player besides Stabby was also suspicious of you, carty.

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Bitmap trusted Nacho, and might have had a sweet result on him.

Scum + SK: Solidstate, DDD, Zabriel, Carto

And for that matter...

2.)

I am not at the point where I believe Cartographer’s retraction of his claim that he killed Rainbowdash. His Day One play makes his frustration with Rainbowdash evident.

Cartographer: you've a single chance to return to your claim of Vigilante and or Serial Killer. If you try 'n revert back to either claim later in the game, Ah'll assume you are running a scum gambit.

3.)

Cartographer, I will point out that Vigilantes do not always counter-claim other claimed Vigilantes. After all, Vigilantes (unless they have no more shots) have a way to deal with counter-claims they don’t believe the following Night. Furthermore, depending on what kind of Vigilante you were claiming, – which you had not spelled out –, then your claim (if true) might have actually helped confirm you in their eyes (i.e. if the other Vigilante were a Tier 2 Vigilante).

4.)

Cartographer, why d'ya believe zabriel to be a Serial Killer as opposed to a Mafiate?

In Carty's favor, this same post contained an FoS to Nacho, but Glados was showing clear suspicion at Carty's claim, and for thinking zabby was an SK.

In summary, 4/5 of the dead town had suspicions on Carty. DDD

looks

like he suspected Nacho, but it's not clear. I think this old lady has a little more work than anticipated, since the only way I'm going to be certain is with a read of the thread, but I'm a good 75% on Carty being sour.

Carty thinking zabby is an SK would fit with Stabby also thinking zabby's the SK based off of stabby's way of treating zabby.

[Aunt Jemina]

Cartographer's fakeclaim was bad and I really have no clue what compelled him to do it,

it seems weird even for scum

This line is of particular interest to my eyes. He pushes DY for fakeclaiming, but not Carty for his fakeclaim; carty's fakeclaim was confusing and "weird", but despite being "bad", is not considered sour. His interactions with Carty are the exact same type of distancing I just experienced in my last game, with regards to Sally and Huntress's slot, with the same progression: distancing, but ultimately keeping away from lynching each other, and ultimately making a play for the win. (In this case, trying a zabby lynch.) The trick's even older than I am.

[Aunt Jemina]

Skimming Carty's iso, I confirmed the exact interaction I suspected would be there if Stabby were scum--defense in some places, distancing in others, but despite hard pushes on Stabby, never putting stabby in danger of death. The switch from stabby to defender shows one instance of this.

This old lady is a little bit tired from exhaustion already; the body does not work as much when you get to be my age. I need sleep before I tackle the whole thread, but carty's looking worse and worse.

[Cartographer]

I must have been very bad town to get you to think 75% I'm scum.

Please stop calling me Carty. It's patronizing and annoying.

I'll make my case on Nacho tonight. Then you can weigh the cases.

But first I am going to do an experiment.

VOTE: Nacho if he is town then good game Zab+McStab

[Cartographer]

You are seeing what you want to see. You need to look at everything impartially.

And I didn't want to lynch McStab because of his claim. Which is why DY and McStab weren't lynched just FYI

[Aunt Jemina]

Carty, deary, that is precisely why I am reading the thread. As a nice old lady, it's my job to be impartial. It's simply that what I'm seeing is heavily pointing your way for being sour. For instance, your predecessor's replacing out looks like a replace due to being scum under pressure, considering less than a month later Sivvy was back to playing games. Add in your entrance post leaving a bitter taste in my mouth and your voting of Nacho combined with my womanly intuition and you're just the person who looks most sour. I'm still reading, so I'm not willing to make that call yet, but your posting is not making a strong case for you being sweet at all.

[Cartographer]

I'm not going to make excuses for my predecessors play other than that he is Russian from the sounds of his name.

It is just frustrating that because I was hospitalized when i got really sick and then couldn't get back into this game the town is going to lose.

I've made my suspicions apparent this entire game. I may not have been particularly active but I certainly let everyone know who I suspected.

If there is still a game going on when I come back tomorrow I will make this place hell on earth for Nacho.

[Nachomamma8]

Vote: Cartographer

Hopefully you just made this very, very easy.

[Aunt Jemina]

We can kill Nacho later. McStab dies now.

Carty, deary, I want you to answer me this: Why was my slot not killed, despite being confirmed town? When he clearly had suspicion on Nacho. Why did the scum kill an unconfirmed player compared to me?

[Cartographer]

Yup. You are scum. Didn't even consider the possibility of Zab being scum.

Not moving my vote.

I'll see you guys tomorrow.

[Cartographer]

And I don't know probably because Seilkops was a useless player.

[zabriel]

Mmm, I'm thinking Carto is looking like very scared scum right now. I'm question whether we should lynch him today though, since McStab is conf-scum.

If Seilkops was so bad, why are you voting for the person he suspected?

[Cartographer]

Pretty sure I suspected Nacho way before Sei did. He was kinda buddying me.

If you think this is my scum play go read Precinct Madness. That is a micro game.

I'm not sloppy. This play is sloppy.

[Cartographer]

Sei being bad meant more of never being here and a bad ic more than anything. He wasn't very vocal.

And good night.

[Nachomamma8]

Pretty sure I suspected Nacho way before Sei did. He was kinda buddying me.

Wait, what? Seil suspected me since the beginning of the game.

If you think this is my scum play go read Precinct Madness. That is a micro game.

I'm not sloppy. This play is sloppy.

No one can keep their scumgame clean all of the time.

[McStab]

Vote: Nacho

[McStab]

Unvote

[McStab]

Vote: Cartographer

[McStab]

Unvote

[McStab]

Vote: Aunt Jemina

[McStab]

lulz

[Aunt Jemina]

Mmm, I'm thinking Carto is looking like very scared scum right now. I'm question whether we should lynch him today though, since McStab is conf-scum.

As far as this old lady can tell, it makes no difference. If we lynch Stabby and are wrong about it being Carty, then scum win in lylo. If we lynch Carty and are wrong, then we lose today rather than tomorrow. If we lynch Stabby and Carty's scum, we win tomorrow, and if we lynch Carty with him being sour, Stabby's already lost.

But I would prefer you give me the time to read. I'm an old lady; this does not go quickly.