Open 447: Overturn To Riddler Day 1...

[njoseph]

But Salamence must have been aware of LYLO sometime after his original vote, and been aware of the relevance of whether Venrob was actually scummy
@Salamence: When was it that you perceived Venrob as acting differently in response to you?

[saulres]

In fact, somewhere Salamence basically says that he perceives that Venrob has this time reacted differently to Salamence from how he regularly reacts as TOWN according to meta.

I think he might have felt that here, but only told us today, and only after Venrob's replacement was named.

Based on that, then, he thought Venrob's slot was scum, but then moved his vote off of Venrob to sheep Klick only after Venrob left the game (in Sal's very first post after Venrob left). If he thought Venrob's slot was scum, why didn't he put pressure on Minerals?

@Sal:

Why did you move your vote from a slot you think is scum?

[Disturbed_One]

@ Njoseph:

Actually, I was talking primarily about post #6 by Sal, also quoted in Saulres' post #127. Not post #83. Not sure why you think otherwise.

[Klick]

V/LA until Saturday.

[Minerals]

yay me catch up time

so page 1 sal proposes policy lynch on my slot(venrob); oh delicious irony as it appears from further posts sal himself admitted he was at fault in the game being offered as metareason for the PL...

so klick is actually kondi does this matter?
#43 saulres looks town
#44 kondi gives metareason to PL sal
anx/njoe begin tying semantic knots; basically "get to the point, councillors"
#78 kondi "Salamence is probably town, unfortunately" (fill in your own reason)
*nuances of the setup discussed with regard policy lynches*
#106 kondi dislike this post
#115 good catch saulres...doublethink is scummy
#140 @Sal defending my slot from a pl isnt scummy
#153 sal admits is own play has been antitown
#161 yea saul points that #106 is a bad post
#165 ditto njoe

@Saul yeah I can understand the frustration, ive been waiting for about two weeks to play myself so you dont have worry bout inactivity now from this slot. I do have responsibilities irl of course but doesnt everyone?

so basically gut says klickondi is scum but as we know gut's not always the crack shot he thinks he is; have to say saulres' sal case is solid but I'd like at least try a wagon on

vote klick

are we under any pressure re deadline?

[Minerals]

so deadline is kinda upon us so I dont expect to get much support for a klick wagon (especially as he wont be able to respond until sat) but would like thoughts from everyone on him. Ill be isomining for truth nuggets today after football, Im expecting paydirt

#176 is pretty mighty and since the case on disturbed is just "he defended venrob against PL they must be buddies !!1 trololol wait that makes no sense ... oh well

vote

" Sal is the only current wagon I'll be supporting. anything valid on Disturbed Im willing to consider it but Im not seeing it myself

[4nxi3ty]

anx/njoe begin tying semantic knots; basically "get to the point, councillors"

the points is -- I have been higlighting njoe's mistakes, he has been trying to keep his head above water, you have recently tried to buddy up to saulres -- And -- It is quite obvious that you and njoe are the scumteam by how you both try to "appear pro-town" by not immeadiately jumping on the salamence yet continue to backseat drive it.

[Disturbed_One]

@ 4nxi3ty:

Maybe I missed something, can you please outline some posts that prove the Minerals/njoe scumteam to be true?

@ Minerals:

Do you have any reason aside from gut to validate the Klick wagon? I've already brought up that I feel he is suspicious because he jumped on a wagon, forced a VT claim from Sal, and then suddenly got off the wagon when he was on it for policy in the first place. Do you have anything to add to that case?

[njoseph]

so basically gut says klickondi is scum but as we know gut's not always the crack shot he thinks he is [...] try a wagon on

vote klick

so deadline is kinda upon us so I dont expect to get much support for a klick wagon [...] Sal is the only current wagon I'll be supporting. anything valid on Disturbed Im willing to consider

How far are you casting your net? You are poised to attack anyone, and looking for opportunities with a saliva drenched finger in the wind.
VOTE: Minerals

[njoseph]

@ 4nxi3ty:

Maybe I missed something, can you please outline some posts that prove the Minerals/njoe scumteam to be true?

@ Minerals:

Do you have any reason aside from gut to validate the Klick wagon? I've already brought up that I feel he is suspicious because he jumped on a wagon, forced a VT claim from Sal, and then suddenly got off the wagon when he was on it for policy in the first place. Do you have anything to add to that case?

Why are you asking him for reasons and giving him some of your own?
Minerals and Disturbed_One look poised against both Klick and Salamence. This makes me painfully sensitive to the concept of Salamence as town who's acting an easy target.

[njoseph]

@4nxie3ty, your not-so-tender tunneling on me hurts.
Personal reasons for the metaphors; so excuse the pain metaphors

[Minerals]

the points is -- I have been higlighting njoe's mistakes, he has been trying to keep his head above water, you have recently tried to buddy up to saulres -- And -- It is quite obvious that you and njoe are the scumteam by how you both try to "appear pro-town" by not immeadiately jumping on the salamence yet continue to backseat drive it.

I'll sheep when the shepherd's got his shit together;

vote Salamence

you and njoe have been word dancing around each other; buddies going for distance schtick taht goes nowwhere perhaps?

[Minerals]

How far are you casting your net? You are poised to attack anyone, and looking for opportunities with a saliva drenched finger in the wind.
VOTE: Minerals

am i not allowed more than one suspect ? fingering 2 of the list is hardly howling at the moon

[njoseph]

the points is -- I have been higlighting njoe's mistakes, he has been trying to keep his head above water, you have recently tried to buddy up to saulres -- And -- It is quite obvious that you and njoe are the scumteam by how you both try to "appear pro-town" by not immeadiately jumping on the salamence yet continue to backseat drive it.

I'll sheep when the shepherd's got his shit together;

vote Salamence

What are saying here?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Vote Count #3

saulres -
Disturbed_One (2) - (Klick, Salamence20) [L-2]
njoseph (1) - (4nxi3ty) [L-3]
4nxiety -
Klick -
Minerals (1) - (njoseph) [L-3]
Salamence20 (2) - (Disturbed_One, Saulres, Minerals) [L-1!!!]
Not Voting - No One
With 7 Alive it take 4 To Die.
Deadline is set for Oct 1st 4:00 PM EST

Random Fact Of The

Day

Vote Count: I'm Asian.

[Salamence20]

L-1 again. Holy fuck.

@Salamence: When was it that you perceived Venrob as acting differently in response to you?

Orly? u voted when you shouldnt have voted at all and u let scum quickhammer. You are the liability- ALSO I DIDNT VOTE AND LET SCUM QUICKHAMMER.

Sal, u r mad at me cuz i thought you were scum. Shut up.

I've never seen him pissy before...

Also

Vote: Klick

cuz

But I have seen him post dumb votes as town.

@Sal: Why did you move your vote from a slot you think is scum

Because Disturbed is more likely to get lynched than Venrob.

#140 @Sal defending my slot from a pl isnt scummy

It can be if:

1. He is scumbuddies
2. He is keeping him alive to help him win in Lylo.
3. Towncred since he knows Venrob is town.

P.S. Minerals is really really bad.

Voting Kilck and then me is bad.

Any other questions?

PPS:

Ill even give you 50% off when i reopen my store.

Breadcrumming VT FTW.

[Disturbed_One]

@ njoseph:

Should be fairly self-explanatory from the post, I listed my reasons so he could add to them. Providing he has any other reasons, of course.

And yes, Sal and Klick are my top scum-reads. I don't quite see what the problem with that is.

[saulres]

I'm back but no time now, will catch up tomorrow.

[Minerals]

'll sheep when the shepherd's got his shit together;

vote Salamence

What are saying here?

deliberately obtuse?

Im saying ive no qualms backing a good case; and now Ill add to it a lil more

P.S. Minerals is really really bad.

Voting Kilck and then me is bad.

Any other questions?

PPS:

Ill even give you 50% off when i reopen my store.

Breadcrumming VT FTW.

ps makes no sense unless you know something you shouldnt about klick; slipmuch?
pps breadcrumbing should be done first post; breeadcrumbing vt isnt credible, especially when you claim it three posts later

[saulres]

@Sal: Why did you move your vote from a slot you think is scum

Because Disturbed is more likely to get lynched than Venrob.

Bzz! Try again. Your vote change happened in 109. Scroll up one post from that and you see the VC in which Elmo said he was replacing venro-- (venmar? Silly mod. Pretty obvious though what was meant). And you can see that at that point, Disturbed had no more votes on him that Venrob, njoseph, or klick.

So I ask again: Why did you move your vote from a slot you think is scum?

Ill even give you 50% off when i reopen my store.

Breadcrumming VT FTW.

How is that a breadcrumb? (Also see Mineral's comments on breadcrumbs.)

[njoseph]

@Salamence, what do you think of Minerals now that Venrob's been swiped away from this game?

[njoseph]

also, your "But I have seen him post dumb votes as town" seems to be hedging on whether Venrob was bona fidely seen as scum by you.

[njoseph]

@Disturbed_One, with Klick being one of your top-scum reads, I'll ask you, what is top-scummy about Klick?

[Disturbed_One]

@Disturbed_One, with Klick being one of your top-scum reads, I'll ask you, what is top-scummy about Klick?

I've already posted this but basically Klick eager to jump on the Sal wagon, then when Sal claimed VT he jumps off the wagon and comes up with a convenient reason as to why he is town.

Although they are my top scum reads, I will clarify that I do not think that they can both be on the same scum-team. If Sal flips town, then and only then can Klick be scum. If Sal flips scum, then I'd probably bet Klick is town. Because I don't see why scum would bus and then unvote like that.

[Salamence20]

@Disturbed_One, with Klick being one of your top-scum reads, I'll ask you, what is top-scummy about Klick?

I've already posted this but basically Klick eager to jump on the Sal wagon, then when Sal claimed VT he jumps off the wagon and comes up with a convenient reason as to why he is town.

Although they are my top scum reads, I will clarify that I do not think that they can both be on the same scum-team. If Sal flips town, then and only then can Klick be scum. If Sal flips scum, then I'd probably bet Klick is town. Because I don't see why scum would bus and then unvote like that.

Lining up mislynches.