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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:16 pm

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I need some more time to look at the game BC linked where he was a miller. I have homework tonight, so please hold the lynch until mid-day tomorrow at least when I can analyze more thoroughly. A quick look shows that he claimed miller later than RVS and suspicion was thrown because of it. Knowing that, I would expect miller-BC to claim miller in first post in the future, which he did. I wouldn't expect him to claim miller as scum because claiming miller in the past hasn't worked for him. If it was a gambit, it was an extremely risky one. I suppose we knew this already, but his linked game shows that he would be fully aware of the risk. That deserves looking at. At the same time, I do want to note that BC played significantly differently in his linked miller game than he did this one (at least the bit that I read). He seems to more actively and logically scum-hunt in the linked game.

BC, please link your most recent finished scum and non-miller town games if you could.
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:17 pm

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In post 98, Cheery Dog wrote:If it was a pregame chat gambit, you wouldn't have planned this far ahead.

I feel it's more likely a gambit you decided to try yourself without talking to your team. but then we may be overthinking the miller claim, since a large theme ended recently (and nominated for a scummie) in which a miller claim made endgame.

I guess you don't know me very well, i don't read games that i'm not in, or games that progress after i'm dead.
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:23 pm

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Most recent town game is a long one, i replaced in around page 65. This was the first game i played this year.

Link to game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=22826

Link to first post: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p4331890

For Scum games, we're gonna have to go back a few years....

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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:26 pm

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In post 100, Rob14 wrote:
Unvote

At the same time, I do want to note that BC played significantly differently in his linked miller game than he did this one (at least the bit that I read). He seems to more actively and logically scum-hunt in the linked game.


Unless you are only looking at the few posts before he was under attack, I think we should consider the context. There have been a barrage of posts aimed directly at him. I don't think that many would continue to actively and logically scum-hunt while being on the defensive, under direct fire. While I didn't actually read the other game, its just my observation here.
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:27 pm

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In post 99, BloodCovenent wrote:
I said it feel's like your putting words in my mouth.


yeah thats what I thought

so you cant quote the post that makes you "feel" like I am putting words in your mouth?

fuck nevermind, I have a feeling that I am going to get another dodge or backtrack or strangely worded reply sending me into another vortex of of shit.

also I want to meta something BC said.
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:31 pm

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Unrelated thought @ BC: I'm trying to read through your last scum game, but it's striking me as too hilarious right now for me to look at objectively. I'll come back to doing this tomorrow.
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:32 pm

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In post 103, ProHawk wrote:
In post 100, Rob14 wrote:
Unvote

At the same time, I do want to note that BC played significantly differently in his linked miller game than he did this one (at least the bit that I read). He seems to more actively and logically scum-hunt in the linked game.


Unless you are only looking at the few posts before he was under attack, I think we should consider the context. There have been a barrage of posts aimed directly at him. I don't think that many would continue to actively and logically scum-hunt while being on the defensive, under direct fire. While I didn't actually read the other game, its just my observation here.

It's actually impossible to scum hunt when under fire. People just say you're trying to shake off suspicion and they won't take you seriously. I'm complacent with dying at the moment.

In post 104, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 99, BloodCovenent wrote:
I said it feel's like your putting words in my mouth.


yeah thats what I thought

so you cant quote the post that makes you "feel" like I am putting words in your mouth?

fuck nevermind, I have a feeling that I am going to get another dodge or backtrack or strangely worded reply sending me into another vortex of of shit.

also I want to meta something BC said.

Your post here, where you have the bolding (the second line to be specific) is where i feel like you're implying things that i didn't say. It feels to me like you're saying that i had scum chat. When i was stating an assumption that i thought others had about me.
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:34 pm

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In post 105, Rob14 wrote:Unrelated thought @ BC: I'm trying to read through your last scum game, but it's striking me as too hilarious right now for me to look at objectively. I'll come back to doing this tomorrow.

If it means anything, i don't think i'm that great at mafia to begin with. Sure, i get lucky some times and have good reads and games, but generally this is what my play is like i guess. When people pull bullshit cases out on me i often overreact and post without previewing and thinking properly.
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:36 pm

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It wasn't hilarious as in bad play, it was just funny. You and Ether going back and forth had my roommates looking at me weird for laughing out of nowhere. I never got far enough in to evaluate quality of play.
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:38 pm

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In post 108, Rob14 wrote:It wasn't hilarious as in bad play, it was just funny. You and Ether going back and forth had my roommates looking at me weird for laughing out of nowhere. I never got far enough in to evaluate quality of play.

I think it was like that when we were at the meetup as well. hahhaha.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:02 pm

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In post 106, BloodCovenent wrote:It's actually impossible to scum hunt when under fire. People just say you're trying to shake off suspicion and they won't take you seriously. I'm complacent with dying at the moment.

Fine, then.

Let's say the mod gave you a day vig shot that you had to use right now. Who would you use it on and why?

(Fun fact: BC's vote is still on Tazaro)
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:08 pm

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In post 110, Demon Core wrote:
In post 106, BloodCovenent wrote:It's actually impossible to scum hunt when under fire. People just say you're trying to shake off suspicion and they won't take you seriously. I'm complacent with dying at the moment.

Fine, then.

Let's say the mod gave you a day vig shot that you had to use right now. Who would you use it on and why?

(Fun fact: BC's vote is still on Tazaro)

Honestly, i'd probably shoot ROFL, as i feel his case on me is very aggressive and poor.

As for voting, who am i going to pressure? Zab? that's going to make me look awful. Vote some other random that isn't a lynch candidate. naw. If it comes down to it, sure i'll vote zab.
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:24 pm

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In post 74, curiouskarmadog wrote:why would Zabtown "distance" himself from someone he doesnt know is scum?

why would anything BC(you)town do "implicate" Zab?

these two terms are not sitting right with me.

waiting on an answer from Zab

also
unvote



This post struck me as odd. Consistent defense of Zab and prohawk pings for that as well. Seems like mafia attempting to psuedo-bus, I bet two of the three shift opinions quickly close to lynch.
Vote Zab
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:30 pm

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In post 112, Darthe wrote:
In post 74, curiouskarmadog wrote:why would Zabtown "distance" himself from someone he doesnt know is scum?

why would anything BC(you)town do "implicate" Zab?

these two terms are not sitting right with me.

waiting on an answer from Zab

also
unvote



This post struck me as odd. Consistent defense of Zab and prohawk pings for that as well. Seems like mafia attempting to psuedo-bus, I bet two of the three shift opinions quickly close to lynch.
Vote Zab
. We will see.


welcome to the game, who else besides Zab is scum?
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:42 pm

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stop fucking positng you idiots and let me read and come back with the scumz in thirteen hours
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:27 pm

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Drop one meme reference and the board explodes.
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:33 pm

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Hi there. Hungover.
Claim: miller.
will read later today, and I guess RVS is already over.
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:38 pm

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two miller claims in one game.. wtf
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:33 am

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In post 112, Darthe wrote:
In post 74, curiouskarmadog wrote:why would Zabtown "distance" himself from someone he doesnt know is scum?

why would anything BC(you)town do "implicate" Zab?

these two terms are not sitting right with me.

waiting on an answer from Zab

also
unvote



This post struck me as odd. Consistent defense of Zab and prohawk pings for that as well. Seems like mafia attempting to psuedo-bus, I bet two of the three shift opinions quickly close to lynch.
Vote Zab
. We will see.


what exactly seems odd? "opinion shift"? you mean me unvoting my random vote?
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:33 am

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In post 116, malpascp wrote:Hi there. Hungover.
Claim: miller.
will read later today, and I guess RVS is already over.



confirm vote on BC
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:49 am

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AngryPidgeon
(1) - zabriel
BloodCovenant
(2) - DemonCore, curiouskarmadog
Pine
(1) - PeregringeV
zabriel
(5)
- AngryPidgeon, ProHawk, Cheery Dog, roflcopter, Darthe
Tazaro
(1) - BloodCovenant

Not Voting
(7) - malpascp, Pine, Josh Lyman, PMysterious, scooby, Rob13, Tazaro



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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:48 am

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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:57 am

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In post 116, malpascp wrote:Hi there. Hungover.
Claim: miller.
will read later today, and I guess RVS is already over.

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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:20 am

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In post 115, zabriel wrote:Drop one meme reference and the board explodes.

O...M...G...

the only thing that's saving you today is the miller counterclaim

you're dead tomorrow
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:21 am

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Rob13, you're not voting.

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