Open 454: JK9 Endgame

[pieceofpecanpie]

GnarlsBarkley's #31 is no where near as interesting as the wagon that formed from it.

@Piggy Did dms' confidence save you a coin flip when stating Gnarls was

town

scum?

@Majiffy Have you covered yourself in stupid sauce before those last few posts? What possible reason do you have to hammer? None of this burn rubbish, what

genuine

reason...?

However, Mr.K's out of sync vote and justification anomaly really tickles my scumdar.

VOTE: Mr.K

[Mr.K]

What do you mean out of sync vote?

[pieceofpecanpie]

Uhhh, your opening vote was just that. A vote. No reason. No explanation. Done in the opening few posts. RVS stage.

Then a few people get a bit excited about GnarlsBarkley's #31 and you're like

"yeah, total scum and I'll cement it further by telling you all that he used that self-voting gambit in another game."

See the thing is, it wasn't a gambit or a stunt, it was an opening. Like an opening move in chess, you could describe some as better than others, and this could be considered a poor opening. But as Bork put it,

"I don't see how a cheeky self L-1 lends itself to either alignment."

What you did was take another self vote out of context (used during Day 4 as a self-preservation stunt/gambit) to justify your empty vote and the two simply don't mesh. Hence "out of sync vote".

[Majiffy]

@Majiffy Have you covered yourself in stupid sauce before those last few posts? What possible reason do you have to hammer? None of this burn rubbish, what

genuine

reason...?

Self-voting yourself to L-1 on page 2 is not town behavior and does not benefit town whatsoever. This is a scum gambit.

[PiggyGal15]

@Piggy Did dms' confidence save you a coin flip when stating Gnarls was

town

scum?

It helped, yes. And it didn't save me a coin flip, it saved me from singing "innie minnie mynnie moe" xD

[Mr.K]

What you did was take another self vote out of context (used during Day 4 as a self-preservation stunt/gambit) to justify your empty vote and the two simply don't mesh. Hence "out of sync vote".

Alright, I suppose I get what you mean.

[pieceofpecanpie]

@Majiffy Have you covered yourself in stupid sauce before those last few posts? What possible reason do you have to hammer? None of this burn rubbish, what

genuine

reason...?

Self-voting yourself to L-1 on page 2 is not town behavior and does not benefit town whatsoever. This is a scum gambit.

Yeah, when I'm scum I try to get myself killed as quickly as possible too.

If you're the sauce, Gnarls is the pie. No wait, I'm the pie. Gnarls is the sauce and you're the jiffy clean trying to wipe town away.

[greygnarl]

So:

1) Mr. K is completely fallaciously comparing GnarlsBarkley's (god I love that) BS self-vote to something that he did late game under actual pressure in the game he linked.
VOTE: Mr. K

2) I fail to see the super serious tone in #31 that everyone else is assuming. Why's he scum for #31?

@Mr. K
Correct this is a totally different scenario, if you hadn't RVSed me I'd be lynching you for scum. The entire point of this gambit was to see if someone would jump on my ass calling this a lame "scum gambit". While you were already on me, yelling quickhammer, quickhammer, looks really scummy, since you love meta I did that last game as scum and it cost me.

@Piggy
What is this, you say it looks null, someone makes a half-assed argument for scum and you go "yeah, ok" That looks like a scummy excuse to hop on the biggest bandwagon going. You say, I'm not really sure unvote, then you wait for someone else to take the initiative and sheep them.

VOTE: PiggyGal

[PiggyGal15]

I'd say check my meta... but it's all ongoing game
Trust me, I'm the biggest sheep in existence as town. Why would I do something so obviously scummy when I'm actually scum? (WIFOM ftw~)

Day 1 is always horrible for me, so sheeping is my best option cause I'm not ever going to catch scum day 1, I'm just not that skilled yet :/

[Mr.K]

2) I fail to see the super serious tone in #31 that everyone else is assuming. Why's he scum for #31?

@Mr. K
Correct this is a totally different scenario, if you hadn't RVSed me I'd be lynching you for scum. The entire point of this gambit was to see if someone would jump on my ass calling this a lame "scum gambit". While you were already on me, yelling quickhammer, quickhammer, looks really scummy, since you love meta I did that last game as scum and it cost me.

Are you proposing that people should ignore scummy behaviour in order to prove they're town? How does this make sense? I also don't remember yelling quickhammer or even hammer. Aaaand, just like I mentioned in the previous game (yes, the one I linked), I don't love meta and actually don't even care for it much.

[Mr.K]

(When you're so tired you hit submit instead of preview, I guess it's only natural that you fuck up the quotes as well........)

Fixed

[drmyshotgun]

So:

1) Mr. K is completely fallaciously comparing GnarlsBarkley's (god I love that) BS self-vote to something that he did late game under actual pressure in the game he linked.
VOTE: Mr. K

2) I fail to see the super serious tone in #31 that everyone else is assuming. Why's he scum for #31?

@Mr. K
Correct this is a totally different scenario, if you hadn't RVSed me I'd be lynching you for scum. The entire point of this gambit was to see if someone would jump on my ass calling this a lame "scum gambit". While you were already on me, yelling quickhammer, quickhammer, looks really scummy, since you love meta I did that last game as scum and it cost me.

@Piggy
What is this, you say it looks null, someone makes a half-assed argument for scum and you go "yeah, ok" That looks like a scummy excuse to hop on the biggest bandwagon going. You say, I'm not really sure unvote, then you wait for someone else to take the initiative and sheep them.

VOTE: PiggyGal

Wow. This is so manufactured.

[drmyshotgun]

DMS is also *boggle* for cherry picking about just GG posting fluff on page 1 when plenty of others were doing so after him.

He was the first one to get fluffs going.
Your artificial non-attack is noted.

[greygnarl]

2) I fail to see the super serious tone in #31 that everyone else is assuming. Why's he scum for #31?

@Mr. K
Correct this is a totally different scenario, if you hadn't RVSed me I'd be lynching you for scum. The entire point of this gambit was to see if someone would jump on my ass calling this a lame "scum gambit". While you were already on me, yelling quickhammer, quickhammer, looks really scummy, since you love meta I did that last game as scum and it cost me.

Are you proposing that people should ignore scummy behaviour in order to prove they're town? How does this make sense? I also don't remember yelling quickhammer or even hammer. Aaaand, just like I mentioned in the previous game (yes, the one I linked), I don't love meta and actually don't even care for it much.[/quote] I didn't mean you actually yelled quickhammer. But you were all for pushing my lynch through as quick as possible.

pedit will get to you in a sec

[greygnarl]

@K Then why are you using meta if it's a null tell?

@Piggy Saying that you're bad on D1 doesn't make you town. Sheeping doesn't make you town just because you always do it. Sheeping rarely helps town and it definitely wouldn't in this case. You had no clue what was going on so you agreed with everyone else? That's scummy as all hell.

[greygnarl]

Care to explain? It looks like a damn good post to me.

[drmyshotgun]

Sure. Your eyes are yours. My eyes are mine.

[greygnarl]

That doesn't mean anything. I'd like to know

why

you find it artificial.

[drmyshotgun]

I said: Manufactured, but whatever.
Calling your own posts: Damn good. is not a good sign in my book.
Your vote on Piggy is nothing less than forced. The reasonings you gave for it has no weight.
Voting yourself is also not a good sign. Especially when you are putting yourself to L-1.
You could have opened the game with relevant materials, but chose to talk about fluff to fake your activity and casual approach to the game.
You are scum. Need to die.

[greygnarl]

Fluff in RVS is bad???????????
RVS IS ONLY FLUFF!

Relevant materials is my self-vote. That's called a gambit and it's not really a tell. Town or scum can both do that with pretty much no consequence to themselves. The point of the gambit isn't to reveal my alignment but to reveal other players'.

[drmyshotgun]

No.

[greygnarl]

One word posts don't help anybody.

[drmyshotgun]

Shut up, Crime/

[Lupo]

Vote Count (1.02)

[0] drmyshotgun -
[4] greygnarl - drmyshotgun, Mr.K, PiggyGal15, Majiffy
[1] PiggyGal15 - greygnarl
[1] T3HhUnT3R - silavor
[0] Majiffy -
[0] pieceofpecanpie -
[0] borkjerfkin -
[2] Mr.K - borkjerfkin, pieceofpecanpie
[0] silavor -

[1] Not voting - T3HhUnT3R,

With 9 alive, a majority is 5 players

Time remaining = (expired on 2012-11-01 22:00:00)

[Mr.K]

@K Then why are you using meta if it's a null tell?

I'm not. I was only semi-serious about that comment. But my vote stays. Now in all seriousness. Based on what's happened in this game.