Open 455 - Tit for Tat - OVER

[Cheery Dog]

Let me see
Gambit:
1 a kind of opening move in chess
2. an action or remark intented to gain an advantage

(I should stop putting dictionaries on my desk, it makes it too easy to know meanings)

I believe this site's meta has it that most people that selfvote the start of their own wagon are town, and therefore I don't trust it because people can fake do that as scum. - this would be it being a scum gambit.
It could also be a town gambit, because getting out of RVS early is getting the advantage to town.

Your posts have started to indicate the second option, and my assumption as to which kind it was is now out of date.
UNVOTE:

[Messiah]

Vote Count 1.2

With twelve alive it will take seven to lynch.

L-4

Disturbed_One

- Shamrock, combinatorialEnigma, Lord Mhork

L-6

Lord Mhork

- Venmar

L-6

Venmar

- Disturbed_One

L-6

Cheery Dog

- Klick

A_Potato

-

Klick

-

combinatorialEnigma

-

guille2015

-

HerrRudi

-

Nekoko

-

numberQ

-

Shamrock

-

Not voting: A_Potato, guille2015, HerrRudi, Nekoko, numberQ, Cheery Dog

Deadline in (expired on 2012-10-28 21:30:00).

[Klick]

Hmm, I guess I was wrong about the definition of gambit.

We need more people to post.

[numberQ]

VOTE: Disturbed

Wagons are good.

[Lord Mhork]

@Disturbed:
That's a fair enough rationale, I suppose. Self voting is rather odd after all and I can understand why you thought it could be a scum fueled gambit. However it still seems odd to me that you didn't even try to defend your vote when people disagreed. This sort of fence-sitting wishy-washyness seems more than a little suspicious.

@Cheery Dog:
Thank you for the definition, but I was actually looking more for what Disturbed *meant* by a 'gambit.'

@Klick:
Much agreement. >.<

@NumberQ:
...huh?

[Klick]

Mhork, I think Cheery's post was a snarky response to me, not you.

[numberQ]

Maybe some clarification... I don't know if I'm explaining this very well since I'm tired as hell, but I don't really see how we're out of RVS yet, and forming wagons early has always been a good way to get out of it in my experience.

[combinatorialEnigma]

We're out of RVS because there was a vote based on reasons.

[Shamrock]

Additionally, numberQ, the wagon you joined was for serious reasons.

Do you think Disturbed_One is scummy?

[HerrRudi]

Venmar, comment on stuff. We escaped RVS.

False.

VOTE: Klick

For the record I am being completely random here

[Cheery Dog]

So you don't have any thoughts about the discussion that has been happening?

[numberQ]

We're out of RVS because there was a vote based on reasons.

Oh wow you're right. I just reread the thread. I feel like I shouldn't try to do mafia stuff while I'm exhausted...

UNVOTE:

I'll start making some real contributions tomorrow, after I sleep. : P

[A_Potato]

@Mhorky 'm dear: This is a teaching hydra for my irl friend so I can teach him mafia.
Frankly I'm just going to take a back seat and get him to do most of the work lol, this way he'll learn better and another mini-me will be released onto the forum to plague you all >:D
I'm not going to bother making sense of anything until he gets back to me.

[Lord Mhork]

Herr pal, you really have no thoughts on the last three pages? We kissed RVS au revoir a while back...

UNVOTE: Disturbed_One

VOTE: HerrRudi


But...but, Om Nom! We need to be an amazing scum hunting team!

[A_Potato]

We will be! Just with another person between us.

[combinatorialEnigma]

A_Potato, what type of potato are you?

[A_Potato]

Whatever potato you want us to be ;)

[A_Potato]

Okay scum is between Disturbed/Enigma/Shamrock/numberQ/Mhork.
Discuss.
Also getting my partner to ask some questions and stuff.

[A_Potato]

So... Disturbed, who do you believe to be scum?

[A_Potato]

Mhorky 'm dear that vote switch onto Rudi was terrible, also your comment directed towards Disturbed gives me bad bad vibes :P
Enigma why do you keep going on about how we're out of RVS when you aren't even providing content to aid us along with it?
Q is giving me bad vibes too but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now since he claims he's tired.
Shamrock's questions don't seem to go anywhere. There's no followup whatsoever with them. I dun liek that one bit.

[Cheery Dog]

You're sure it doesn't include the 2 (guille & nekoko) that are yet to post?

[A_Potato]

There's always room for one more~
Also I forgot to say that you're town.

[Lord Mhork]

My Rudi vote was bad? How so, Om Nom? Would you rather just sit and watch him throw his vote around like we're back on page one? My mafia skills are admittedly very rusty right now, but if I recall correctly it benefits scum more to hide behind RVS as a way of excusing their actions and avoiding having to make an actual vote of substance. I just want to encourage our pal Rudi to actually look over the last couple pages and add something of substance.

Also, care to explain those bad, bad vibes?

Oh, and I'm not necessarrily disagreeing, but what gives you Cheery-town vibes?

[HerrRudi]

Actually read the game now. I'm content with my vote at this hour. No clue what Klick's meta is but I'm uncomfortable with people playing town leader like he is. Seems fake

I like Mhork, Cheery, Potato right away. Feel bad vibes about Rubiks cube avatar guy except have nothing to back this up

[A_Potato]

You threw out a vote on a good wagon for a weak pressure vote with no good reason for why you moved off. You were too quick to jump the gun on Rudi since that was basically his first post and there wasn't any indication he wasn't going to post more and on-topic.
Those bad bad vibes are too situational to be useful just yet, if one of you/Disturbed flip scum then those bad vibes mean the other is a likely buddy.
Can't really explain the Cheery townvibes and I can't be bothered to.

PEDIT: Klick, like me (Om), is a very arrogant and stubborn person and we're likely to both fight for town leader (though everyone should sheep me over him since my reads are actually good). What do you feel about Disturbed?