Open 456: Faith Plus One [Game Over]

[shos]

Alright so in DC's ISO there's precisely three mentions of CE - the first is when he 'believes the claim' and so thinks she's town, the second when he just mentioned her as a popular target, and the third is a vote, 1 page before the lynch. classic "I do not want to bus but now the lynch cannot be stopped". another thought I came through by this, btw: all four of us {me, baseline, zar and antihero} were on CE's wagon. all the others flkipped town. is it possible that NO SCUM bussed?.. >_>...this supports antiheroscum...

moving on to antihero's ISO. well obviously no mentions of CE there. but Ikinda like that ISO. he's saying logical stuff. yeah that push on Zar seems out of the way and really wierd and stuff, but the rest of the posts..RC lynch is so much better..

*sigh*
I'll go get eleventies(The Hobbit, anyone?) and think after I eat.


ninjad: in a sec

[Baseline]

The below is typical scum distancing.

City: Who is scum and why?

Hmm, difficult. I'm going to say bulder, for his complete lack of explanation for his DG vote and Rainbow for tunneling on me and not really doing anything but attack me. Completely unsure about the third member.

I think the third member is somewhere in the pool of Declan, Grey and Demon Core.

VOTE: Rainbowdash

Speaking of Demon Core, he hasn't been doing much either.

[shos]

Well I dunno baseline, I don't know about any examples to give you, but I think that *I* would have said such stuff as scum to a partner. See, I always try to evolve my scumplay - so when I was right in that game with bulder where we lost to Voided - when I managed to get a scumlynch in 5plylo based on what I considered a scum-partners-wouldn't-do-that - I learn, and as scum I just might do that.

point is, you get the *feeling* that he wouldn't say that to a partner; but in true fact, it does not promote the game in any way, and is just fluff between partners that make them look separated/too-connected.
so in general yeah, I don't want to exclude that partnership.

Look, I'll think about it, I eat a lot so there's time


err ninja'd again...one sec..

[Baseline]

It's also her only mention of Demon Core at all.

[shos]

I'll think about it.

[shos]

be here in an hour or so in case you want to prevent me hammering lol

[Baseline]

Thanks. Also when you get back take a look at the Antihero+RC thing, I want to know if that works or not, it's one that I'm unsure about.

[shos]

in 161 he puts FT exactly in the middle.
I find post 980 intriguing.

I admit to have only skimmed with CTRL+F because "DC" is in "reDCoyote" and stuff but nevermind, I want to hammer. I'm giving you a while to say otherwise if you really wish

[Baseline]

I think FT being in the middle is fairly null given that FT hadn't posted a lot to get a solid read on.

And you know I don't agree with a hammer. I want an Antihero lynch and I am actually very confident it'll get a scum-lynch but it seems that I'm the only one that feels that way which is extremely aggravating especially with his interactions with CE and CEs interactions with him very much looking like partners.

[shos]

well you're right, but not right ENOUGH, imo. RC's interactions with CE are waaaaay worse imo as I've repeatedly said, and well, I am very confident we'll get a scumflip with an RC lynch. we could be both right you know.

soooo you haven't given me some extreme unwillingness to lynch RC so I'm going to hammer now. may the schwartz be with us. VOTE: RedCoyote.

RC, if you get here before the mod - final reads etc, assuming you haven't given already, I don't care to go back and look right now.

[Baseline]

Sigh. I really really really wish we lynched Antihero. If its' Antihero + Majjify and we lose I'll be coming back to this moment and blaming it all on you.

[shos]

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we still have a mislynch to spare, worst case. I have 100% success rate in 5p lylos lol XD
if RC flips town, then there REALLY is no possible situation imo in which antihero is town. there's literally no way. no frekin way you're scum, and Zar is too SOOOOOOO unlikely to be scum, and a rach/maj scumteam just seems so implausible. going back to earlier - that means a DG/abddon team. if that's the case, monitor is going to be swallowed

[shos]

actually I'd go with a majiffy lynch whatever happens. RC-Maj scumteam is my best result, and if RC is town then it's probably Maj/antihero. I don't suppose there's much difference if he flips town, but if he flips scum, then Maj is a safer bet. an RC/antihero team looks less likely to me than RC/maj.

I believe that concludes my thoughts for today in case I die. so cross oyur fingers..

[Baseline]

Well in 30 town games I've only made it to lylo once from memory and we lost it so I'm 0% win rate as town in lylo.

[shos]

one last note:
Rach's posted, on average, 1 post in every 20 posts (20/400). I know that it was all RL stuff in part of the time, but just in case we get to lylo and I'm dead, consider looking at her postcount %s meta.

[Baseline]

D_G is town and Rach doesn't fit in any scum-teams so that's irrelevant.

It's Antihero + Majjify or Antihero + RC and I think it's the first situation.

[shos]

I've caught up though I'm too tired right now to post a lot of analysis. I pretty much agree with RedCoyote - Radelle, Abbadon, bulder in order from strongest to weakest town-read - Declan, Aether, Fur in order from strongest to weakest scum-read. I don't have clear reads on anyone else yet. shos has spent a lot of his recent posts just asking for content from lurkers, which is understandable, but it also seems like an easy way to appear pro-town without doing any scum-hunting, so not sure what to make of that yet. rapid definitely lurks as scum, so his inactivity here is definitely disconcerting. But I'll have to see how that plays out as well before making any definite assesments.

@RedCoyote, to answer your question, I was speaking somewhat ironically in my first post - rapid introduced me to mafiascum and has voted me first in every game I've played with him, so his vote wasn't exactly random...

For now, I'm gonna put my vote on Fur to keep our options open and cause his vote on Abbadon is terrible.

unvote vote Fur

for reference

[Baseline]

Well I'm heading out so hopefully I come back to find out that I'm wrong.

But I want Antihero lynched tomorrow so if I die please don't let him of the hook again.

[borkjerfkin]

Votecount 4.3 Final

[4] RedCoyote (Antihero, Zar, RachMarie, shos)

[1] Antihero (Baseline)
[1] Majiffy (RedCoyote)
[1] shos (Majiffy)

With 7 alive, it is 4 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

A lynch has been reached! Flip incoming.

[borkjerfkin]

RedCoyote,

Vanilla Townie,

was lynched Day 4.

Night 4 begins now. You have (expired on 2012-12-16 08:00:00) to send in your night actions.

[borkjerfkin]

Baseline,

Vanilla Townie,

was killed Night 4.

Day 5 begins now!

[borkjerfkin]

Votecount 5.0

[5] Not Voting (Antihero, Majiffy, RachMarie, shos, Zar)

With 5 alive, it is 3 to lynch.

Deadline is in: (expired on 2012-12-30 09:00:00)

Let me know if you see any problems.

[Majiffy]

Can we lynch Shos now?

[Zar]

Can we lynch Shos now?

Where is the post you were going to work on?

[Majiffy]

Idk it got locked and so I never got around to it. I've got time today, though, so I suppose I could.