Spoiler: posts 259-274
In post 259, Battousai wrote:W00t, got a biter. Thought the claim would have met with nothing since scum were in a position of power. Now it's down to 50/50.
Also, I didn't investigate Mhork. I investigated Empking. Got a not a werewolf back. Why did you investigate me?
And, I'm not voting cause the more time we get to talk, the better the chances we get to finding a scum partner.
In post 260, shos wrote:Why did you investigate batt/emp, both of you?
In post 261, Battousai wrote:Might as well bust out my post I was going to make before I decided it would be better to claim.
...My biggest scumread is.... Empking! *gasp* *faint*
I would have tried to get him lynched yesterday, but by the time I figured out his alignment, there would have been no time to lynch him.
You see, most of the last rl day of D1, I was online. I was paying attention to all new posts... and I was also paying attention to who was online and who wasn't. Guess who's name kept popping up as online, yet hardly posted at all. Empking. Yet, he only posted twice. First was to say that he would hammer sal if discussion stalled, the other was to say that he found sal to be his his second biggest town read. He was sitting back and watching the game, but not participating.
To put this as to more why I find him scum, you must understand that this is my 3rd game in a row I played against Emp. Each time so far he has been scum. His basic meta is to lay low, not make waves. Now, if you read the first pages of this game, you'll see he took a risk in starting the game and continued to be pretty vocal. That was why I felt he was town. But his activity level dropped. Then last day of D1 (well, see above).
Good news is, we got a scum to fakeclaim. So once Mhork flips, we'll know if Emp is town (mhork flip werewolf) or unknown (mhork flip mafia).
In post 262, Lord Mhork wrote:Is pretty simple. I invistigated him 'cause I thought he was scummy. After city/Salamance flipped town I went back over batt like you suggested.
I find it interesting that he's not voting me though. I'm basically confirmed scum to you, right, batt?
PEdit:
That's Emp-scum case? Paying attention to who is online is an awful tactic as people still can choose to hide it. Anywho, why would not posting much indicate scum? Meta is an awfully weak argument to use, I think.
I'm gonna go look over the game again and see if I can find batt's partner.
In post 263, Empking wrote:In post 261, Battousai wrote:You see, most of the last rl day of D1, I was online. I was paying attention to all new posts... and I was also paying attention to who was online and who wasn't. Guess who's name kept popping up as online, yet hardly posted at all. Empking.
Er. No, I was not online after I stopped posting. If anyone cares to check the "View My posts", you can see that unless I'm a Golem that needs no sleep, I was clearly not just lurking in the background hoping for a Commie lynch.
So,FOS: Batt
In post 264, Battousai wrote:I said why I'm not voting. I want more discussion. When there is more discussion, I will gladly vote to lynch you.
Mhork- I know people can hide their online status. That doesn't mean scum do not actively lurk while not hiding it. Meta isn't weak, and I'm not actually voting him right now either. That was just abasis for my investigationof him and why I felt him scummy.
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I didn't say WHAT TIME you kept popping up online. To be clearer, I was watching the online status/bookmarks (I have everyone in game friended so I know if they are online when they aren't hiding it).And from 3:30 (my time) to around 9 (an hr after Emp's last post) Emp was on/off a lot. He posted in a few other games (mostly mismash, but another mafia game as well), andneglected this one(the one at deadline where the town was either not near a consensus or was after his second strongest town read).
To play the sleep card, I just looked through your view posts. The 4 or so days previous you were offline for what could be considered sleep at (all my time)11pm - 11 am, 8pm - 9am, 10am - 4 pm, 6pm - 8am. So saying you couldn't have been on 'cause you sleeping is false.You could have easily slept anywhere in that 12 hr period. I was online and saw you on foraround an extra hr after your last post, and several hours before your first.
Now, this is all secondary right now.You are not the lynch today, it's either myself or Mhork. If Mhork is scum he can confirm you as town if he flips werewolf. Can you be Mhork's scumpartner? Quite possible. There isn't much in links between you two (which is helped by the 4 or so non-fluff posts by Mhork, there aren't links to anyone really).
Oh, and while I'm here and remember. My initial list, I kinda did lie about what it meant. Initially, when I had the town read on Emp and from that CE, I created it so I could narrow down my investigation targets as the game progressed. It wasn't too much of a lie, since it also was pretty much a list of people I don't find town. But obviously, I couldn't say it was my target list.
*bolded for skimmers
In post 265, Empking wrote:In post 264, Battousai wrote:To play the sleep card, I just looked through your view posts. The 4 or so days previous you were offline for what could be considered sleep at (all my time) 11pm - 11 am, 8pm - 9am, 10am - 4 pm, 6pm - 8am. So saying you couldn't have been on 'cause you sleeping is false. You could have easily slept anywhere in that 12 hr period. I was online and saw you on for around an extra hr after your last post, and several hours before your first.
Well yes, maybe an hour after it I was on and didn't post but that's not inactivity.
In post 266, Battousai wrote:But that, and the fact your activity dropped made me question my read on you is why I investigated you. And now, if Mhork flips werewolf over mafia, you'll be either confirmed town or unknown (and I'll be dead tonight regardless, so everything I post today is trying to get my reads and thoughts through for the rest of the town tomorrow).
In post 267, shos wrote:Thats not a good enouh case for me on emp so far. Anyway- ill say more when im on comp.
Any of you two crumbed?
In post 268, Lord Mhork wrote:In post 264, Battousai wrote:I said why I'm not voting. I want more discussion. When there is more discussion, I will gladly vote to lynch you.
Mhork- I know people can hide their online status. That doesn't mean scum do not actively lurk while not hiding it. Meta isn't weak, and I'm not actually voting him right now either. That was just abasis for my investigationof him and why I felt him scummy.
pre-edit:
I didn't say WHAT TIME you kept popping up online. To be clearer, I was watching the online status/bookmarks (I have everyone in game friended so I know if they are online when they aren't hiding it).And from 3:30 (my time) to around 9 (an hr after Emp's last post) Emp was on/off a lot. He posted in a few other games (mostly mismash, but another mafia game as well), andneglected this one(the one at deadline where the town was either not near a consensus or was after his second strongest town read).
To play the sleep card, I just looked through your view posts. The 4 or so days previous you were offline for what could be considered sleep at (all my time)11pm - 11 am, 8pm - 9am, 10am - 4 pm, 6pm - 8am. So saying you couldn't have been on 'cause you sleeping is false.You could have easily slept anywhere in that 12 hr period. I was online and saw you on foraround an extra hr after your last post, and several hours before your first.
Now, this is all secondary right now.You are not the lynch today, it's either myself or Mhork. If Mhork is scum he can confirm you as town if he flips werewolf. Can you be Mhork's scumpartner? Quite possible. There isn't much in links between you two (which is helped by the 4 or so non-fluff posts by Mhork, there aren't links to anyone really).
Oh, and while I'm here and remember. My initial list, I kinda did lie about what it meant. Initially, when I had the town read on Emp and from that CE, I created it so I could narrow down my investigation targets as the game progressed. It wasn't too much of a lie, since it also was pretty much a list of people I don't find town. But obviously, I couldn't say it was my target list.
*bolded for skimmers
Got it. So your list was an out so you could say you crumbed either investigative role. Good work.
In post 267, shos wrote:Thats not a good enouh case for me on emp so far. Anyway- ill say more when im on comp.
Any of you two crumbed?
No, pal; sorry. I'm not used to being a power role and am not used to crumbing when I am.
In post 269, shos wrote:I have.no idea what you're talking about in the first part of your post so explain
In post 270, Lord Mhork wrote:That mystery list that was a big hooplah Day 1 was a really easy way for him to come forth with a fakeclaim and minor crumbing on the second day. It gives him a way to say "Oh hey, guys. Look! I was making lists for investigating and everything. Aren't I so obviously a power role?" It's really weak.
Also, just look at his whole "I'm not voting because pro-town discussion! Herp Derp!" It's just so forced. I should be confirmed scum to him, but he won't lay his vote down. I'm in no danger of lynch, so why shouldn't he place that vote down? 'Cause he wants the townie points.
In post 271, shos wrote:wow, you're stretching sooooo far that I'm having trouble in seeing any possible way at all that you are town. you do realize he hasn't said anything at all about crumbing yet, had said nothing at all regarding that list in any way, and well, even making a list doesn't make sense as a PR more than as a VT?
consider me voting Lord Mhork, but yeah, let's keep the discussion and vote later.
In post 272, Battousai wrote:Ya, that list was unintentional, and can be read from 3 point of town-role views (vt, seer, cop). Obviously not a crumb, and I don't claim it to be one.
I did not crumb.
Shos-Do you at least agree thatIfound it scummy enough for me to investigate Emp? If yes, then at least consider Emp-scum in lylo tomorrow.
Still waiting on Radelle to even comment. I'm in no hurry to vote, Mhork. Also, gratz on passing CE's total post count! Oh wait, nvm, you still have a bit less. Sorry. At least you matched your number of non-fluff posts from D1 already.
In post 273, shos wrote:Batt I'm totally with you by now if you didn't get it. Mhrok is getting lynched today.
I was a busy bee today so I'm not as focused as I wish I were on this game, so I'll probably give some more input tomorrow.
Spoiler: posts 276-289
In post 276, shos wrote:@Mod: Radelle was also replaced in another game I'm playing with her, so I guess she's indeed gone
In post 277, Lord Mhork wrote:In post 272, Battousai wrote:Ya, that list was unintentional, and can be read from 3 point of town-role views (vt, seer, cop). Obviously not a crumb, and I don't claim it to be one.
I did not crumb.
Shos-Do you at least agree thatIfound it scummy enough for me to investigate Emp? If yes, then at least consider Emp-scum in lylo tomorrow.
Still waiting on Radelle to even comment. I'm in no hurry to vote, Mhork. Also, gratz on passing CE's total post count! Oh wait, nvm, you still have a bit less. Sorry. At least you matched your number of non-fluff posts from D1 already.
Oh ha ha ha ha. You're so hilarious. My sides are literally splitting and the sheer wit that post took to compile. I was IRL busy for the first day, but I'm glad you're more than willing to point out my small post count. That really helps the town.
In post 273, shos wrote:Batt I'm totally with you by now if you didn't get it. Mhrok is getting lynched today.
I was a busy bee today so I'm not as focused as I wish I were on this game, so I'll probably give some more input tomorrow.
And I'm glad you two get to decide the lynch today. It would be awesome if I could just roll over and let you two morons lynch me, but I can't really be the one responsible for letting the town lose. I'll come back tomorrow as well, hopefully being able to think straight.
In post 278, shos wrote:ok let's just put the facts up for everyone to remember.
Batt claims Seer with not-werewolf on Empking.
Mhork Counterclaims Seer with a werewolf result on Batt.
so it's a 1v1 between you guys, right? right.
easy pic.
In post 279, Empking wrote:In post 278, shos wrote:so it's a 1v1 between you guys, right? right.
Right.
In post 285, 2birds1stone wrote:Fuck rereading.
Read last page.
Says everything.
Empking is bordering on obvtown as of page three, and Mhork could easily be Electric's partner as of page two. Batt inno on Empking is way more plausible than Mhork guilty on Batt. Also, fakeclaiming inno in LyLo.
Vote: Lord Mhork
In post 286, 2birds1stone wrote:...
unvote
Eh, read page eleven. It's not as clean-cut a situation as I'd hoped.
Will still probably be voting Mhork, but it looks like I'll be reading after all.
In post 287, 2birds1stone wrote:Apologies for quad-posting.
I do this. I mean, my philosophy behind investigation targets is different, but I do make lists of viable targets.In post 264, Battousai wrote:Oh, and while I'm here and remember. My initial list, I kinda did lie about what it meant. Initially, when I had the town read on Emp and from that CE, I created it so I could narrow down my investigation targets as the game progressed. It wasn't too much of a lie, since it also was pretty much a list of people I don't find town. But obviously, I couldn't say it was my target list.
As far as I'm concerned is a reasonable towntell. It's just a freaking weird thing to make up, and not only that, it's weird to make something up and then go back and reference it six pages later without inconsistency. Sure, it's not a foolproof tell, but look what he's up against.
Mhork has been null-scum all day. His first content post was, as someone pointed out, a "Why'd youmove the game alongtake somene to L-1?" Since then, he's posted the bare minimum, genereally contentless sarcasm.
Vote: Mhork
In post 288, Lord Mhork wrote:This town is ridiculous. We have a two claims and only shos is actually bothering to read through it. Then you have Empking sitting there pretending to read along while lurking in the shadows and birdie here throwing a LyLo vote without even reading the whole game! >.<
Batt's partner is clearly between Emp and birdie, though I'm inclined to say birdie just because no town could act that stupid!
In post 289, shos wrote:well this game is not being talked too much now, so I'm going toVote: Lord Mhorkand wait for others to lynch.
2b1s, this game really isn't that long or elaborate, you should reread and comment.
