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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:27 am

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Votecount 6.7 - Final D6 Votecount


(2)
Konowa
- N, IceGuy
(1)
N
- Konowa

(0)
Not voting
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(IceGuy)



With 3 alive, it takes 2 votes to lynch.
The deadline is December 24 at 2:15 AM GMT. Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2012-12-24 02:15:00)
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:35 pm

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Where We Speak of Peace and its Troubling.


  • Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill him!

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, has been murdered during his own trial.



It is no longer possible to prevent a Win Condition from being achieved!
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:35 pm

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IceGuy,
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, has been endgamed.


N,
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, survives Day 6.



Game over!


Mafia
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Wins!

Town
...
Loses...



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Thank you all for playing. Comments, suggestions and complaints are always welcome. I will have some commentary on the setup in a few days, but the brief version is that this design was not a brilliant experience and that I am very grateful to all of you for sticking with it and not raging at me during the game.
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:09 pm

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This was hard without a QT. I was surprised no one noticed my obvious breadcrumbs for a petapan kill d1; I think I went over the top with them. My d2 attempted kill was Konowa, because a few people had called him a townread, including Equinox. After that didn't go through, I reread what Equinox said d2 and thought, with all she said about scum having to kill another townread, she was saying we should kill a scumread.

I took IceGuy and Konowa into lylo because Konowa had already mentioned suspicion of IceGuy and I thought I might be able to do the whole "townread alive in lylo is probably scum" thing on IceGuy. Also, I had no idea what CF Riot was thinking so I didn't want to risk having him there.
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:33 pm

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Dammit
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:41 pm

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Meh.

Half my reads were right and half were wrong.

GG guys. I still didn't want to be force-replaced and was a bit bitter that IG got his spot back, but shit happens and people get over it.
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:01 pm

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Well played, scum.
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:58 am

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Well, at least my endgame on reading people is improving slightly. Now I just need to work on the convinving others part. IG, can I ask why you voted me over N?
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:43 am

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In post 482, Konowa wrote: IG, can I ask why you voted me over N?


Apart from your behavior on D1, your Equinox push seemed very constructed.
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 7:47 am

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Konowa's push on vs N's lack of push on Equinox is one of the reasons I thought he was town. There wasn't much suspicion of Equinox in thread before Konowa posted so I didn't see scum bussing at that point.
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:05 pm

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Don't see how it was constructed. Oh well. Looking forward to Tierce's comments as I actually enjoyed the setup, for what its worth.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 7:04 pm

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Well done scum!
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 7:41 pm

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This set up is smart. I like it too. I wish we would've talked about the no lynch D2 thing. It felt wrong to me but I didn't realize exactly how it screwed us until it came up D4.
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:19 am

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In post 484, CF Riot wrote:Konowa's push on vs N's lack of push on Equinox is one of the reasons I thought he was town. There wasn't much suspicion of Equinox in thread before Konowa posted so I didn't see scum bussing at that point.

This is why I had to kill you.
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:53 pm

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Finally got some time and wakefulness. Thanks for waiting.

This setup is very scumsided if scum manage to get that D1 mislynch + N1 kill. If they do it, not only is D2 MyLo, but they can even quickhammer and win--if Town is at L-1 on D2, one of the scum can call "Let's kill X Tonight!" (outing themselves at no risk) and quickhammer at the same time. There is nothing the Town can do to prevent that N2 kill, so I was hoping that strategy wouldn't be found out and used (and was somewhat surprised when Equinox didn't seem to figure it out). They can even do it on D1, to a bigger risk--it requires one of the scum outing themselves and relies on the other one taking the game through LyLo alone, but it's feasible.

I tried to clean the original design a bit. The No Lynch days aren't elegant from a setup perspective, but add or remove a Town player, and the odds of getting several No Lynch Days (or "Discuss Whether We Should No Lynch Days") only increases. It's likely a setup flaw in general, which needs a
smarter designer
larger game and/or different mechanic to patch up.

That said, I enjoyed the fact that the scum had no factional communication. It reverses the roles somewhat--now it's up to Town to figure out breadcrumbs, and for scum to feel alone without a partner they can somewhat rely on, and who they can only bus on late game, otherwise they lose a Night-kill. (Perhaps that is one of the spots that can be patched up, if this setup is to work: there is no point in giving Town a skipped Night phase during
late game
, because at 4p MyLo they will just choose to No Lynch.)

As for replacements, my rules were probably not very clear. I give a one-prod tolerance during a Micro Day, and replace upon the second prod-time; IceGuy misunderstood this and thought he still had leeway, thus asked to be let back in the game. After talking it over with StefanB, and given that no game information had been shared, I decided to allow him back in and amended my prod text to include a notice when it's the final prod a player can take on that Day/during the game.

Thank you all so much for playing. I can only imagine how obnoxious the No Kill/No Lynch cycles were, yet you were all good sports through it and there were no complaints.


ITG I learn that Shakespeare has far more grueling and creative deaths for his characters than I can ever hope to devise. ^_^;
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:02 am

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