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Post Post #2525 (isolation #0) » Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:22 pm

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So, whats the case on Albus then? links appreciated.
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Post Post #2533 (isolation #1) » Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:11 am

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In post 1213, Darthe wrote:This shit is all irrelevant because you lot aren't voting Bumi who had suspect queries in the QT

What were the suspect queries?

(No I am not dedicated enough to read this far already)
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Post Post #2536 (isolation #2) » Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:49 am

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In post 2534, penguin_alien wrote:Bumi's dead and flipped Town Neighbor, Slaandar.

I was asking Darthe if it wasn't clear.
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Post Post #2537 (isolation #3) » Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:51 am

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that WoW ISO looks completely different and I looked at it for 2 seconds
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Post Post #2539 (isolation #4) » Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:00 am

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Penguin, what do you expect from townArc?
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Post Post #2555 (isolation #5) » Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:17 am

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I see you ignored my question Darthe

Why is this?
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Post Post #2557 (isolation #6) » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:58 am

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No, I don't believe he is.
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Post Post #2559 (isolation #7) » Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:04 am

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Stop derping please.
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Post Post #2560 (isolation #8) » Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:18 am

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thezmon tell me something.

Do you not think the quote I asked my question regarding is strange?
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Post Post #2562 (isolation #9) » Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:45 am

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Yes I have read that argument its bad.

Why if he was scum wouldn't he think exactly the same; ie he needs to lynch his neighbour before he is lynched due to thinking there is nearly always one scum in hood and so there is a high chance he is lynched.
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Post Post #2572 (isolation #10) » Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:49 pm

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In post 2501, Baby Spice wrote:Must admit the thing that makes me think that JS isn't a scum buddy of Sixx also applies to Albus, and I really doubt Albus and JS are scum buddies either.

Unvote[/b]

OK so this is scum

VOTE: Baby Spice

Tip: she isn't on Sixx's team.

Lynch her, no need to mess around and it means I don't need to catchup then because I will be dead tomorrow.

JMJ is town btw.
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Post Post #2578 (isolation #11) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:34 am

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In post 2573, Baby Spice wrote:
In post 2537, Slandaar wrote:that WoW ISO looks completely different and I looked at it for 2 seconds

Then you should read her posts this game.

Vote AA

lol
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Post Post #2580 (isolation #12) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:14 am

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Baby Spice is scum because she clearly cannot fathom that Albus could be on the team that isn't Sixx's (SHE IS ON THAT TEAM) then her reaction to my vote is some kind of weird retaliation.

Hey Darthe answer my question or you will be lynched.
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Post Post #2581 (isolation #13) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:12 am

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Considering the number of players this game is slow

Really Really Slow.
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Post Post #2583 (isolation #14) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:55 am

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In post 2565, Darthe wrote:
In post 2555, Slandaar wrote:I see you ignored my question Darthe

Why is this?


Who are you and where is your question?

In post 2566, thezmon221 wrote:
In post 2533, Slandaar wrote:
In post 1213, Darthe wrote:This shit is all irrelevant because you lot aren't voting Bumi who had suspect queries in the QT

What were the suspect queries?

(No I am not dedicated enough to read this far already)
This is what he's referring to, Darthe.

Do you read the thread or just pretend?

Who am I? Does this matter?
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Post Post #2586 (isolation #15) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:05 am

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^
Good Post
In post 2501, Baby Spice wrote:Must admit the thing that makes me think that JS isn't a scum buddy of Sixx also applies to Albus, and I really doubt Albus and JS are scum buddies either.

Unvote[/b]

I will explain it in full one time

Baby Spice thinks Albus is scum, OK.
She says here, that she doesn't think Albus can be scum with Sixx, OK.
She also says he can't be scum with JS, OK.

So, explain to me why she unvotes using this logic? Surely he can still be scum on the nonblue team and JS can be town.

She then votes AA???

So, she is just scum, her logic is flawed she is scumhunting from the nonblue team for the blue team hence where this logic came from.

VERY VERY OBVIOUS

Now lynch.
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Post Post #2588 (isolation #16) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:27 am

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When did he post this?
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Post Post #2593 (isolation #17) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:21 am

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In post 2589, Darthe wrote:My QT with him... Hence the connection of Bumi and I.

When not where.
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Post Post #2604 (isolation #18) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:17 am

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In post 2595, Darthe wrote:Hmm.. Mostly after we had agreed to have some level of trust for the purpose of using our role. So, near the end of january, IE Night two.

P-edit: I agree. Shit needs to stop. Baby is a good train, lets actually run something up to get infoz.

The quote was from Day 1 (before night 2)
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Post Post #2605 (isolation #19) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:18 am

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In post 2602, Jal wrote:Slaandar, I read that as her trying to build reads off on information (Sixx's mod kill) that we already have and working on possibilities regarding it.

OK. Link me to where Baby talks about Albus being Sixx's buddy.
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Post Post #2613 (isolation #20) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:48 pm

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No.

Here is the point; When you have multiball scum do not look the same as they do in other games due to being able to scumhunt (they appear more town) and due to this her reads will change as she as scum is in fact genuinely scumhunting (the other team to her)

So your arguments don't hold and I don't need to meta her to know it.
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Post Post #2614 (isolation #21) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:57 pm

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In post 329, JacobSavage wrote:
If I had to call a scum tram now I'd say Sixx, Thez, Robert and Killer with just looking at the vote count and a memory of a couple of posts.

I think this makes Jacob town btw.

I think.

And yes I know the arguments against it and I think they are wrong.
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Post Post #2615 (isolation #22) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:58 pm

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So, how about we don't lynch the easiest lynch in the history of mafia and actually try and lynch scum ie Baby Spice?
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Post Post #2617 (isolation #23) » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:46 am

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I havn't really looked into him yet.
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Post Post #2629 (isolation #24) » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:06 am

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In post 2623, Darthe wrote:
What separates these from the rest of the living is that none of these people have been replaced. Unless someone thinks
the entire mafia team
has been replaced?

It is not that unreasonable considering how many people have been replaced its just an odds thing.

Anyways the bolded

What do you mean the entire mafia team?
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Post Post #2631 (isolation #25) » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:37 am

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OK Albus you link me to where this evidence is that suggests town replace out more than scum in such situations
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Post Post #2640 (isolation #26) » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:09 pm

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In post 2634, Albus Dumbledore wrote:
p-edit: Yeah Slandaar, I'll get right on that. Good one.

Hope to see it soon.

If you could also include a conclusion stating why you think people who don't like to play scum are unlikely to flake in an 80page day 1. Then explain why newer scum wouldn't get overwhelmed and feel they need to replace for the good of their team.

Thanks in advance.
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Post Post #2641 (isolation #27) » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:24 pm

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In post 2636, Darthe wrote:
Simple really. I propose that mafia is a game. People are drawn to games, and more so people like power. The mafia team is the team with certain power that the town does not necessarily have. Also, the mafia team is smaller than the town. If the majority of town members replace, can we not assume that at most a like majority of mafia members has been replaced? All of them is simply unlikely. Combine this with the fact that JS (moreso than Spice, but her as well) have been pushed since day 1 and yet 8 of us are dead and I think we need to test something.

Yes OK this is correct I think. But it doesn't mean anything.

THE ODDS OF FINDING SCUM IN THE NON REPLACED ARE THE SAME AS LYNCHING FROM THE REPLACED.

Anyways my point was; why are you assuming one scum team?
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Post Post #2642 (isolation #28) » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:27 pm

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In post 1360, jmj3000 wrote:T
2. Does anyone else find it odd that Darthe says this:
Darthe wrote:This shit is all irrelevant because you lot aren't voting Bumi who had suspect queries in the QT and because bumi is a *NEIGHBOR* that defended outed scum. I think I am going to go do some ISO review.


Indicating some sort of day talk with his "neighbor" Bumi. However, bumi says this:
In post 1230, Bumi wrote:
In post 1230, Bumi wrote:
In post 1215, Jal wrote:Darthe, was Bumi vouching for Sixx scum in your QT after his vote on Sixx in post 867?

The thing about Bumi, was that I was just in a game with him where he was totally wrong about the scum team. He listed all of the scum team as town, some with his highest read, he then went on to help lynch a town player and tunneled on town the next day and then we just lost.

Basically, he isn't the
greatest
of scum catchers.


We don't have day talk.
And I didn't force Roger to do anything. I asked him his opinion about cars and people because my role PM says we know who the other people are but not the cars. That's why I thought Roger was likely town because he did what he said he was going to do.

I don't understand why Darthe claimed though unless to give his "case" more back bone


Yes I was louder but that was in a smaller game and during a different time in my life.


Someone is either lying here, or I am looking too much into something. I am going to think on this while I finish my reread, then I will post more thoughts.

This is good posting btw.

I still have not had a satisfactory answer to my question Darthe seems to avoid the issue.
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Post Post #2643 (isolation #29) » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:28 pm

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You all need to look at that as from what I can tell Darthe lied and is scum.
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Post Post #2647 (isolation #30) » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:45 pm

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In post 2644, Albus Dumbledore wrote:Where does Darthe say they have day talk?

How did Bumi post in the QT if not?
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Post Post #2649 (isolation #31) » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:58 pm

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Day Start?
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Post Post #2653 (isolation #32) » Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:41 pm

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In post 2650, thezmon221 wrote:
In post 2649, Slandaar wrote:Day Start?
Like, when people were confirming and such they were able to talk, so it was before D1 started. He and Roger (or Robert, I can't even remember anymore) talked a bit apparently.

Or at least, that's what I got from it.

Bumi wasn't in pregame to begin with so how did Bumi post the suspicions as Darthe said?

I thought there was no pregame. Still he did imply Bumi posted them.
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Post Post #2656 (isolation #33) » Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:54 pm

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Eh I should have checked that last night I thought he replaced in.

Anyways ignore that lets get to the point;

What suspect queries could he have posted pregame? - Darthe gave me names of suspects implying this is the intended interpretation that Bumi was talking about suspects. And then; why couldn't Darthe answer this?

Note; 'is your favourite colour blue?' (i get this way of reading it).
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Post Post #2659 (isolation #34) » Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:41 am

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OK I will try and start again

WHAT WERE THE SUSPECT QUERIES?
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Post Post #2671 (isolation #35) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:13 am

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In post 2669, thezmon221 wrote:@Slandaar: I'm pretty sure the suspect queries were strictly set-up related. A la, he was speculating on what kinds of killing roles there possibly were. I remember Darthe said he talked about an SK, a Vig, and I think a Masonry.

Can you link me please to where he said this
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Post Post #2672 (isolation #36) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:15 am

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Lets not lynch Jacob

Your goal SHOULD be to lynch scum not the people who post the least. Even if you are scum this should be your goal...
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Post Post #2691 (isolation #37) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:20 am

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Well If I die Baby is scum just fyi
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Post Post #2693 (isolation #38) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:21 am

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I can be wrong on Jacob but I don't see him guessing a 4 man team as scum it doesn't make logical sense; either you guess the 3 which is likely the size of the scumteams or you guess 5/6
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Post Post #2697 (isolation #39) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:02 am

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I thought you were Zar Albus but you seem too... aggressive.
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Post Post #2706 (isolation #40) » Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:37 pm

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I am obviously town

I can't as scum just tunnel another scum and expect to live the night.
I could as scum find a scum and nk them.

And Baby was very obviously scum I even called her team thats how obvious it was.

But Jal you seem to have a different opinion on the matter?
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Post Post #2707 (isolation #41) » Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:59 pm

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OK My only real reads right now are Arc/Boni/Allyra are town

So, I am gonna be reading the thread at some point which I expected not to have to do.
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Post Post #2709 (isolation #42) » Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:32 am

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If this came from scum I would be very very surprised.
Spoiler:
In post 343, PMysterious wrote:
In post 293, PMysterious wrote:
In post 292, BirdAndBeast wrote:
Instead of howling about short days / quick lynches, lets discuss something relevant then?


It IS relevant in some way, if we DO quick-lynch, it might lead to a catastrophe. We need a combination of Day and Night in order to win. Well, Town that is. Mafia really only need luck that they don't get caught and the Night to kill us Townies. In other words, the longer the Day goes, the more likely the Mafia will get caught.
When he says relevant he means something about the alignment of players rather than theory discussions over what type of lynch is optimal. Theory talk is a good way for scum to hide. What reads do you have?

A majority of null reads right now. I really don't have any Town Reads or Scum reads that might be good to let out. I always jynx it when I do. MY luck is basically the brains of one of the Teletubbies and the defeats of every bad guy.

Image
+
Image
=
My luck


Should I say more about this before I go any further.


This also is kind of town yeah he could be scum thinking that lynch town nk scum but eh probably not as scum you can't have such a bad voting record or you in turn get lynched; it makes more sense hes town who just didn't get it.
In post 2677, Boniface wrote:Slaandar, it's scum's goal to lynch scum?
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Post Post #2710 (isolation #43) » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:17 am

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In post 2703, Jal wrote:
A Baby Spice kill is also a noticeable difference from blue scum's usual tactic of killing big time town reads

SCUM FOUND

CONFIRMED

THIS IS BABY SPICES BUDDY

VOTE: Jal

LYNCH IT SO I DONT HAVE TO READ THREAD THANKS.
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Post Post #2711 (isolation #44) » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:28 am

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Hes scum because he knows who blue scum have been killing ie hes red scum.

Jal dies today this is a guaranteed scum lynch.
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Post Post #2712 (isolation #45) » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:45 am

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So, while we lynch Jal I will ponder; who thought Baby was scum but did not act on it yesterday. Which is the real way to catch the blue scum.
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Post Post #2713 (isolation #46) » Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:51 am

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In post 1979, Nachomamma8 wrote:
AJ, Bumi,
CKD
, Edosurist, KJ, PV,
Ztife


all of these need to die as fast as possible

Jal amuse me

why did you focus on this list in particular?

I see lots of town names there so why take it as some kind of evidence over every other dead towns scum list?
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Post Post #2716 (isolation #47) » Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:14 am

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hrm
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Post Post #2718 (isolation #48) » Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:30 am

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Why focus on only the nacho kill?
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Post Post #2726 (isolation #49) » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:51 am

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In post 2721, Jal wrote:
You think I had some inside information over who the blues killed. Your first conclusion isn't, "oh hey, she might be blue scum" it's that I'm
red scum
That does not make sense.

CKD was similarly not following connections with Sixx. He made a small comment about Jeck possibly being scum partners with Sixx. He didn't go much for Jeck and focused on KJ's slot because he felt it was with Sixx scum. That doesn't make sense given CKD's main attack on KJ being that KJ didn't think Sixx was scum. What?

It makes complete sense

You as blue are not going to say 'blue killed x' but as red who knows and mentally slipped forgetting town don't know what you know; yes.

Lets take it in context; you were scumhunting genuinely using info on who blue team killed as backing, as blue you would remember not to include who your team killed its just obvious, but as red who knows who blue killed and during the scumhunting added in thoughts you shouldn't? definitely see it happening.
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Post Post #2727 (isolation #50) » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:53 am

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Anyways obviously it is wrong even though I still find it suspicious you noticed the kills but forgot to include it. It is like you are steps ahead and knew in advance.

But this probably means I have to read the thread...
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Post Post #2747 (isolation #51) » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:49 pm

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In post 2456, penguin_alien wrote:I'm not totally caught up on Day One, but I'm good on most of it, and Day Two and what's happened today. I'll try to fill in Day One where/if it becomes relevant.

In post 2279, Baby Spice wrote:
Darthe. I'm guessing that NJ vigged Bumi in part of the neighbour thing. Do you think that makes you look more or less town?


I'm not following; I thought the 'arrested' thing in the flavor implied a vig rather than scum?

I am quoting this because its important and I must think on it
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Post Post #2748 (isolation #52) » Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:41 am

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was njoseph claimed when he was nked or was he just shot?
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Post Post #2752 (isolation #53) » Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:23 am

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Eh I am gonna call Penguin town
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Post Post #2753 (isolation #54) » Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:28 am

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So let me see

Me
boni
AA
Allyra
Penguin

I think Albus is town
I think Lurker is town

This leaves scum in;
Jal/DV/Darthe/Edo/PV/TML

Need to go through who is possible/likely on each team and then figure out who is best to lynch.

Jal would be in the red section just as an example (lol)

Will do that later
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Post Post #2757 (isolation #55) » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:02 am

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I am quite confident TML is scum looking through him; his thez suspicion just kind of vanished this is especially noteworthy when he was so strong with his accusation.
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Post Post #2762 (isolation #56) » Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:29 am

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I had an entire scumteam figured out?
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Post Post #2764 (isolation #57) » Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:37 am

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That was not a good post to quote Jal. After a blue scum flip you couldn't grasp the idea that the other team ie the red scum don't also have a 'protective role'? They obviously do, unless you were saying ztife couldn't be a scum doctor because your team only has one scum PR and so naturally the other team would only have one too...

Also; I don't remember listing any scumteams.
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Post Post #2766 (isolation #58) » Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:04 am

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The argument town don't have much power so TML is town is terrible btw. Only half the game has flipped in which there was a vig a doc and we know there is a hood. In the other half if there are 3 PR's then... seems fair to me. It is completely dependant on the 10 townies roles who are still alive.

While we are on the subject of TML;

@TML: who have you been protecting recently?
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Post Post #2787 (isolation #59) » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:02 am

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In post 1548, Baby Spice wrote:
In post 1537, Nachomamma8 wrote:anyways
he's probably a mafia doctor
not with sixx
i guess i don't mind leaving him alive for a few days, for fun


If you think he's a mafia doctor from a second scum group, why leave him alive?


In post 1565, Jal wrote:If Ztife is really a scum doctor then this game is really stupid with all the scum protection roles.

Hang Jal please this is actually really damning.

It is very obvious they are talking about red scum and Jal doesn't think its possible because she knows red scum has something else.

Lynch.
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Post Post #2788 (isolation #60) » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:04 am

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AA and Boni just trust me on this; You are both town

Sheep me please.
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Post Post #2790 (isolation #61) » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:14 am

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If you need a connection post to Baby Spice here it is;
In post 2605, Slandaar wrote:
In post 2602, Jal wrote:Slaandar, I read that as her trying to build reads off on information (Sixx's mod kill) that we already have and working on possibilities regarding it.

OK. Link me to where Baby talks about Albus being Sixx's buddy.

See Baby was scum for saying neither X or Y was on Blue scum due to connections then completely dropping the cases she had on her scumreads

Jal defends her saying 'well she was using connections to hunt!'

Now; when was the case on Albus ever to do with Jacobs alignment? This argument from Jal holds no weight unless the case was based on connections originally (ie she decided they were not blue scum and the case was based on them being blue scum) the case was never Albus was blue scum it was; he is scum so if hes not on blue scum the strength of the case stands.

So where does Jal decide she was hunting based on connections so dropping the case makes sense?

(defending a buddy)
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Post Post #2791 (isolation #62) » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:16 am

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In post 2790, Slandaar wrote:
Now; when was the case on Albus ever to do with
Jacobs
alignment?

Should be Sixx
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Post Post #2794 (isolation #63) » Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:24 pm

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I am fairly sure

I just can't see town going 'WHAT RED SCUM HAS A PR TOO?!!!!!!'
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Post Post #2804 (isolation #64) » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:36 pm

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In post 2800, Jal wrote:Slandaar, you're twisting what I said. I didn't say other scum doesn't have a PR, just that it's stupid that scum hold so many protective PRs.

Yes I know what you said.

Lets look at it a different way; TML claims to be RB'ed so we have to assume red can RB or TML is scum. You seem to believe he is town which means you are happy to accept there is a JK and a RB/JK role.

JK on one team RB/JK on another; so, why is it so insane that instead of having a RB role the red has a protective role which is basically the other side of the coin for a JK?

In post 2800, Jal wrote:
It's already been shown that scum have some ability to force a lynch during the day and probably a strong man with B&B's death going though. I'mma gunna guess they don't all belong to one team especially given a blue goon was flipped.

OK, but you didn't know this at the time (or shouldn't) so it doesn't mean anything.
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Post Post #2805 (isolation #65) » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:42 pm

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In post 2803, penguin_alien wrote:
Slandaar, how do you find The Mini-Librarian to be likely scum given the claim? It was made before any town PRs had died, which meant that it was an incredibly risky choice for a fake claim. If njoseph had been the first town PR to die, TML would have had to explain not taking vig shots if lying. Or if an investigative role got killed, scum-TML'd be stuck making up results for the rest of the game. This isn't to say that I don't want TML to answer your question about the protection choices made thus far, but is the evidence against TML enough to outweigh a really awful choice for a fake-claim?

It isn't risky comparatively.

Compared to other claims how likely was he to be counter claimed? pretty low I would say.
Then the fact if a PR doesn't die for a couple days he doesn't have to make anything up regarding his actions...
He also wouldn't have known when he claimed there was a vig so that argument isn't completely legit.

Basically; what is a safer claim?
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Post Post #2806 (isolation #66) » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:45 pm

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In post 2799, Jal wrote:
Then why did you said you listed Baby's scum team?

Me: I didn't
you: YOU DID
Me: no
you: yes!

A Quote might be a good idea???
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Post Post #2807 (isolation #67) » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:36 am

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Why TML is scum;
In post 62, The Mini-Librarian wrote:Whoa baby

VOTE: thezmon221

Definite scum here.

In post 77, The Mini-Librarian wrote:
Why thezmon is scum


: Ignores essentially the entire thread to post a rv. Shows that he is actually reading the thread (responds to bird and beast's question about experience) but doesn't do anything productive at all with the gamestate.

: suggests that it's good play to vote for who you think is scummiest at this stage of the game, still has a vote on someone who hasn't posted.

In post 154, The Mini-Librarian wrote:
In post 152, BirdAndBeast wrote:I want to talk to Mastin before moving forward with a super serious post. I kinda want to lynch Thezmon221 though.


Do it.

--

town lean on nhammen
town parama
nj gets his town lean revoked

In post 255, The Mini-Librarian wrote:
@aj:
I get it you don't think thez is scum. I'll just get him lynched without you. OK?

In post 276, The Mini-Librarian wrote:
In post 267, Robert2424 wrote:
In post 262, The Mini-Librarian wrote:Explain how my post is scummy

Your looking for a lynch no matter who it is. That is scummy. Unseencamo also looks scummy now.


*sigh* I think Thez is scum. I've been consistent about this. I want him lynched and dead. So no, I wouldn't say I'm "looking for a lynch no matter who it is".

In post 370, The Mini-Librarian wrote:This arc wagon is just full of bad votes... Ugh. Jacob needs to explain his vote immediately.

@jal or nhammen or really anyone
: Can you show me what posts show thez town and why? I just don't see it.

OK up till now we see TML saying thez is scum all good. He even asks for people to show why thez is town.

Jal responded with some sort of 'eh town mentality here'

Then;
In post 512, The Mini-Librarian wrote:um, yeah.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: idiotking

the top half of 511 does not lead to a b&b vote in any way. Fabricated read etc.

After this post he doesn't mention his thez suspicion again

WHERE DID IT GO? ITS JUST GONE BECAUSE JAL SAID SOMETHING THAT HAS NO RELATION TO HIS CASE???

He literally doesn't mention thez the rest of the game.

Doesn't seem town to me.

Also worth noting is he didn't talk about it with Jal. He just asked, got some response and off he went voting my slot.
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Post Post #2808 (isolation #68) » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:45 am

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See here is the interesting thing with TML's claim he was Roleblocked

Red must have roleblocked him if he was.

Except blue killed B&B

And it should have been obvious to blue he was going to be protecting B&B so why did blue shoot B&B if he is in fact a doc?

Eh I think TML is blue scum.
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Post Post #2809 (isolation #69) » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:47 am

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And it explains why the thez suspicion vanished it was an awkward bus/distancing act.
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Post Post #2812 (isolation #70) » Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:29 am

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In post 2810, Jal wrote:
It's the same reason that I very much doubt there are two scum roleblockers in this game like you're proposing with TML - it is stupid, more so for role blockers because of their potential interaction.
A doctor can't even tell if they are blocked or if another role interfered
. TML made an assumption. I right off the bat suggested there's probably a strong-arm vs another roleblocker, champ.

You know I think you are right

So, how did blue kill B&B again when a doc protected him

Ah.
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Post Post #2813 (isolation #71) » Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:34 am

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In post 2811, Jal wrote:
In post 62, The Mini-Librarian wrote:Whoa baby

VOTE: thezmon221

Definite scum here.


TML casts his first vote serious vote in the game against scumbuddy Thez who had no prior suspicion vs keeping it on his RVS vote or choosing among 23 other choices he could probably fixate on?

No.

I did see that I quoted it; I don't care.

Just because he pushed on bluescum does not mean he is not bluescum. Bussing is not a myth.
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Post Post #2818 (isolation #72) » Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:57 am

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DV is more likely town for that than scum.
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Post Post #2823 (isolation #73) » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:14 am

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In post 2820, Jal wrote:
Why?

Because he knew what he was doing and how it would look; as scum he probably just doesn't do it for the heat he would assume it would bring.

He is not some newbie who has no clue what it would look like which is the only type of player that terrible case might apply to.
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Post Post #2830 (isolation #74) » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:03 am

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PV why are you comparing my play to WiH?

It just makes no sense.

You have much more recent examples of both my town and scum play so to compare to that game is just plain bad especially when ~500 of my posts in that game were lost.
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Post Post #2832 (isolation #75) » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:22 am

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I don't think it has much to do with alignment either but his answer might be interesting.
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Post Post #2833 (isolation #76) » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:43 am

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Jal I really want you to answer this for me:
In post 2812, Slandaar wrote:
In post 2810, Jal wrote:
It's the same reason that I very much doubt there are two scum roleblockers in this game like you're proposing with TML - it is stupid, more so for role blockers because of their potential interaction.
A doctor can't even tell if they are blocked or if another role interfered
. TML made an assumption. I right off the bat suggested there's probably a strong-arm vs another roleblocker, champ.

So, how did blue kill B&B again when a doc protected him
?


(Yes I added the question mark)

I have convinced myself; I see no possible way for blue to kill B&B without TML being scum.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: TML
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Post Post #2836 (isolation #77) » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:31 am

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This is the easiest way;

How did blue kill B&B?

Did they rb TML? (no)
Did they strongarm it? (no you won't have strongarm + JK think of the interactions)

So, did red RB TML and then blue shoot? very unlikely and considering the interaction between JK and RB it means red probably don't have a RB so no.

So how?
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Post Post #2855 (isolation #78) » Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:44 am

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Why would blue target B&B when TML made it clear he targetted them n1 and blue has no way to go through the doc?
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Post Post #2856 (isolation #79) » Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:45 am

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an rb on red isn't impossible I think it unlikely and the point being that unlikelyhood with the above is too much
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Post Post #2858 (isolation #80) » Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:49 am

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In post 2848, Jal wrote:
I don't get your argument concerning why a strong arm interacts badly with a JK.

It is too strong

You can jail and kill PR/opposing scum
You can jail your buddy and kill using him

etc

And then the question is; what does red have? a lot to balance that for sure.

And then; why did we have a doc in the first place if it doesn't really do anything except block the vig who should not be shooting who doc protects?
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Post Post #2859 (isolation #81) » Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:50 am

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In post 2857, DeasVail wrote:I'm sorry if I'm missing something, but are you saying that blue would think it likely that town-TML would target B&B again?

Yes

And he did.
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Post Post #2868 (isolation #82) » Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:38 am

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This game is really slow
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Post Post #2875 (isolation #83) » Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:29 am

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Darthe I tried but I don't really know what you were saying.

Anyways; the only players left in this game I have no inkling they are town are Jal/Edo/TML

Look into Edo and Jal tomorrow, Jal can definitely be scum, she doesn't really do anything except hunt blue scum this is a huge sign she is red scum.

Its amusing because she thinks I am blue because I am turning the connection hunting on its head ie for red scum to look town its easiest to hunt blue scum (and beneficial to find them) at which point you need to watch for who only hunts bluescum and you have found redscum.

I think TML is the final bluescum there are many examples where scum think their buddy is too obvious and jump on them are very adamant they are scum and then later drop the suspicion completely which I am fairly sure is what happened here.
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Post Post #2879 (isolation #84) » Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:10 am

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Drumroll etc.
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Post Post #2890 (isolation #85) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:05 am

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VOTE: mcqueen

I thinks.
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Post Post #2891 (isolation #86) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:08 am

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In post 2811, Jal wrote:
In post 2808, Slandaar wrote:Eh I think TML is blue scum.

Stop.

?????

Are you scum Jal?
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Post Post #2892 (isolation #87) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:12 am

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In post 2423, Edosurist wrote:VOTE: Albus Dumbledore
Scumread on him all game, and it's not really improving. Like this lynch.

In post 2499, Edosurist wrote:I'm not liking the AD lynch anymore either.
VOTE: JacobSavage

And welcome, Lurker. Please don't lurk like all of us are doing.

Lets be honest this is really ugly

I also think TML knew hes scum.
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Post Post #2893 (isolation #88) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:16 am

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I am currently thinking about massclaim

Let me think on it, its complicated in multiball.
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Post Post #2895 (isolation #89) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:30 am

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OK town massclaim is on

I choose order because I am conftown

Mcqueen
Jal
DV
Darthe
PV
Lurker
ArcAngel
Allyra
Penguin

And I am last obviously.

Mcqueen go.
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Post Post #2898 (isolation #90) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:03 pm

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What?

Why didn't you claim Mcqueen?
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Post Post #2907 (isolation #91) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:55 pm

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In post 2903, Jal wrote:
Okay seriously, why the hell would someone start a case and put suspicion where there wasn't any on their own partner in the first few pages? That's stupid.

lol

I was joking but your reaction is so bad.

The answer to your question is thus; He did it so you are wrong. The fact you don't see it even now is a bad sign.
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Post Post #2908 (isolation #92) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:57 pm

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DV you are up.

In post 2900, Darthe wrote:
Slandaar, why are you conf.town again?

Because I am. Do you wish to debate my townness?
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Post Post #2911 (isolation #93) » Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:41 am

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Mcqueen - VT
Jal - VT
DV - VT
Darthe - Neighbour ???
PV
Lurker
ArcAngel - VT
Allyra
Penguin
Slandaar

I may have missed some claims in the thread as I havn't read everything but it doesn't matter.

Darthe you are next.
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Post Post #2913 (isolation #94) » Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:37 am

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While I think about it;
Lurker just claim in your next post.

(Darthe still is next technically but I am not in for waiting days for a claim)
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Post Post #2916 (isolation #95) » Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:05 am

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PV go.
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Post Post #2919 (isolation #96) » Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:21 am

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Allyra/Lurker/Penguin claim doesn't matter order (Prefer Lurker first but he might take forever and I don't care that much.
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Post Post #2923 (isolation #97) » Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:09 am

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Eh it can't hurt to claim flavor if everyone can just claim name/car in their next post that would be good.
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Post Post #2933 (isolation #98) » Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:02 am

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Mcqueen where is your flavor?

I am just gonna wait on lurker to claim before I do, currently with only 2 PR I really don't need to claim and you know I am conftown.
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Post Post #2934 (isolation #99) » Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:26 am

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Mcqueen - VT
Jal - VT
DV - VT - Yvette le Mieux - 1967 Buick Wildcat
Darthe - Neighbour VT - Irene Yates - 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X
PV - VT
Lurker - ???
ArcAngel - VT
Allyra - VT - Theodore Greene - 2002 Nissan sentra
Penguin - VT - Billy Sanders - 1997 Nissan 240SX.

Slandaar - Conftown
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Post Post #2937 (isolation #100) » Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:30 am

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Yes please
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Post Post #2940 (isolation #101) » Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:04 am

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Well I am a VT also - Dean Carter - 2009 Dodge Challenger

Basically I advise everyone to check their flavor and see if anything other than their name/car differ from the VT PM example.

Example: Penguin and Allyra are
actually
conftown I think based on what Allyra claimed.

The names don't seem to mean much; the cars do but scum obviously are going to fake claim those (it is obvious when you look into it and scum would), however Jals car stands out as a muscle car when I don't think any others are. I need to look through it all later though.
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Post Post #2941 (isolation #102) » Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:15 am

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nevermind my car is related to Jals ugh.

but if Jal is town...

Darthe/DV/PV/Mcqueen

Maybe.
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Post Post #2942 (isolation #103) » Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:17 am

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Hilarious, my car is actually like best buddies with Jals in the wiki.

OK seriously after work I will go through this properly.

AA/PV still need to finish claiming.
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Post Post #2947 (isolation #104) » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:31 am

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In post 2945, Darthe wrote:
Also, thank you for keeping a list but kindly move yourself into the other slots and give a full reveal like the rest of us. I don't care if you know your alignment, science and analysis does not happen without impartiality.

I did

I was hinting I had some super PR claim to try to keep scum claims to VT which is a good thing; if anyone claimed a PR they would be conftown in this setup any scum could have 'conftowned' very easily

Like the setup is currently;
EIGHT scum a doc, a vig and a hood.

Clearly not enough town power that isn't even (quite) enough for a mini normal let alone a game with eight scum in it.

In post 2946, ArcAngel9 wrote:
I have claimed!!!

Name and Car.
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Post Post #2948 (isolation #105) » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:33 am

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Basically; the reason the setup is balanced is the flavor is important I figured this out when Allyra claimed.
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Post Post #2956 (isolation #106) » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:10 am

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In post 2952, Darthe wrote: but find neither tactically advantageous to have around.

What?
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Post Post #2957 (isolation #107) » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:26 am

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Mcqueen - VT - Genoveffa Benvenuti - 2005
Toyota Celica GT-S

PV - VT - Jun Watanabe - 2002
Toyota Spyder


Jal - VT - Jarosław Wojciechowski -
1973 Plymouth Barracuda GT.

Slandaar - VT - Dean Carter -
2009 Dodge Challenger


Allyra - VT - Theodore Greene -
2002 Nissan sentra

Penguin - VT - Billy Sanders -
1997 Nissan 240SX.


DV - VT - Yvette le Mieux - 1967 Buick Wildcat
Darthe - Neighbour VT - Irene Yates - 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X
ArcAngel - VT - Xavier Lee - 2002 Ferrari Enzo

Lurker - VT - ??? - 2007 Honda Civic Type S.

If you look at all the cars a lot pair up there is never 3 and they are always from the same alignment

I think this makes Lurker conftown as his pairs with Ztife along with Allyra/Penguin.

I think Jal has to be town based on her claim

This means Mcqueen/PV are both red scum and then 1 town in DV/Darthe/AA.

Yes I know fakeclaims; the point is, I think the idea was that people were paired up and it kind of becomes a lovers setup even with the fakeclaims.

If you don't understand why mine and Jals pair go read wiki.

DV is blue scum I think.

I expect Darthe is town and AA the final redscum.

The reason it has to be something like this is because otherwise there would be a serious warning you need to know about cars so there must be something simple to balance towns power and I expect this is it.

DV blue

Mcqueen/PV/AA red.
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Post Post #2959 (isolation #108) » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:38 am

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Well you tell me why there are only 2 PR then
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Post Post #2966 (isolation #109) » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:51 pm

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Pretty sure my reads are right

There are 4 cars that don't pair up from town but the point is; those that do are always the same alignment. (and they might pair up somehow)
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Post Post #2967 (isolation #110) » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:52 pm

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In post 2960, mcqueen wrote:
In post 2959, Slandaar wrote:Well you tell me why there are only 2 PR then

scum are fcing with the easiest trick in the book: vt.

I mean it doesn't need to be more obvious Mcqueen is scum

There are only 2 Town PR because scum are claiming VT? lol.
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Post Post #2974 (isolation #111) » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:52 pm

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In post 2970, mcqueen wrote:dude cant even make a claim either

I did claim
In post 2970, mcqueen wrote:
idk abt the 2 prs, but ik that there are 2 more red mafia,

How do you know this?
In post 2970, mcqueen wrote:
and maybe 2 more prs. that leaves 2 reds, a neighbor, 2 prs, and 5 vts.

There are 0 PR left and we know there is a blue left.
In post 2970, mcqueen wrote:
obviously, if there are 2 scum left, a pr is not going to participate in a massclaim, bc they dont want to get nked. its not lylo. the only reason the neighbor did, is bc his partner is dead.

mislynch -> 2 town deaths = 3 town 4 scum alive

This is lylo effectively.
In post 2970, mcqueen wrote:
also, what if the other 2 prs are neighbors as well. it is a neighbor
hood
. seems a bit scumsided, but if town has that much communication, i can see it passing as balanced overall.

8 scum vs a hood a doc and a vig

Good balance.
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Post Post #2975 (isolation #112) » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:38 pm

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In post 2972, Darthe wrote:Mcqueen, I can't even comprehend your sentences.

Hey Sal, you left out something. The dead people. Why do you need to specifically link all of the living in such a chaotic way that we much lynch two to get solid answers?

Callin Bullshanks.

unvote vote Jal


I wanna test this and if jal is scum, we got em both.

Which of my scums do you think is town?

Do you realise in a normal 13 man 3 scum you get average 3 PR so when there is 8 scum... well probably 5/6 but still the lack of power is very indicative that something else is in the game to help town.

And your theory is I am right just scum with Jal? really?
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Post Post #2977 (isolation #113) » Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:54 am

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In post 2969, mcqueen wrote:. how the fuck can you fake confusion this late in the game. dumb players dont live this far. some other noob will nk them.

So, the scum will nk all the 'dumb' players?

No. Obviously that is not how it works.

This guy is just making anything up to stay alive he is the lynch today.
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Post Post #2984 (isolation #114) » Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:46 am

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Mcqueen is more obvious scum than Baby and TML combined.
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Post Post #2986 (isolation #115) » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:45 pm

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lol

Please stop Mcqueen

I can barely contain my excitement at lynching another scum, I am nearly bursting with glee at each of your posts, its simply too much for me!

Ohhhhhhhh I'm just a confused townie! I don't know whats going on! The big bad Slandaar is trying to lynch me! I am soooooo confused my posts are scummy but its because I am confused! ignore every scummy thing I post because I am confused!!!!!!!!!!! I have read nothing since I replaced in I have done nothing all my posts are scummy but its because I am confused! I could try to catch up or read or do something but I am so confused!
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Post Post #2993 (isolation #116) » Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:46 pm

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In post 2988, mcqueen wrote:that dont shoot their whole team for town cred, then have the easiest win ive ever seen

You should get your red buddies to nightkill me Mcqueen

Then you get to find out If I am blue or not (hint: i'm not)
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Post Post #2996 (isolation #117) » Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:33 am

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No, its still 2.
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Post Post #2998 (isolation #118) » Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:40 am

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Mcqueen could you go through one more time why I am scum except leave out the theory of bussing for easy win because its baseless.

Watch: Mcqueen is scum because his slot hasn't been leading scum lynches he was sitting back letting town get lynched for easy scum win.

It doesn't mean anything and as such isn't a case. Just like yours on me isn't.
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Post Post #3000 (isolation #119) » Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:10 am

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So, lets say you are town and you truly think I am scum

Why would you not make a case on me? Even if you are lynched it would help your team or you would believe it would.

No

You are scum and know when you flip your opinion will be ignored.
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Post Post #3002 (isolation #120) » Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:12 am

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I intend to
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Post Post #3004 (isolation #121) » Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:15 am

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I do too.
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Post Post #3010 (isolation #122) » Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:39 am

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Mcqueens Masterplan
Claim anything and everything he posts is because hes confused noone can lynch someone who is confused!

Mcqueens Backup plan
Use reverse psychology by voting himself and encouraging people to vote him people will never vote him then!
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Post Post #3012 (isolation #123) » Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:46 am

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V/LA till Sunday 10th
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Post Post #3068 (isolation #124) » Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:25 am

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I am fairly sure everyone currently voting mcqueen is town

This should be a fairly obvious sign of his alignment.

Me/Penguin/Lurker/Darthe is very town looking, lurker basically due to slys play; Darthe is fairly town acting in places, penguin is near conftown and I am obviously town.
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Post Post #3069 (isolation #125) » Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:30 am

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There are 4 scum on each team because blue has to have 4 members after nking when 3 are dead

Its only fair for red to have the same number and 5 is ridiculously high (10 total) so its obviously 4:4 and 1:3 alive

so 4 scum alive 6 town.

We get into a terrible spot if we lynch town then 2 town at night in effect town has lost from there well... needs extraordinary luck. Like we would be 3:3:1 so we need to lynch RED and only red and then blue must nk red or we lose and then red must nk blue or we are in the exact same spot the next day its complicated but its obviousy really bad for town to be in a spot where lynching scum can mean you lose ie lynch blue and 3:3 red wins.

even lynching blue scum today means tomorrow it will be 5:3 which is mylo.

(this post is for Darthes benefit mostly)
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Post Post #3081 (isolation #126) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:23 am

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Please can you highlight the parts you are talking about Sly.

Hes town pretty sure; I just want to see if your arguments make sense or not.

DV is likely the last blue scum, yes, but we want to lynch redscum today.
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Post Post #3083 (isolation #127) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:47 am

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Really.
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Post Post #3087 (isolation #128) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:02 am

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OK lets say I am right all 4 are town

It really doesn't matter if we mislynch because the slot is going to be lynched at some point anyways when 4/6 town are voting it.

It also means there is a 4/6 chance of the slot being scum purely on odds alone.

Then throw in the fact none of the scum had hopped on which is obviously suspicious and it follows.

Let me look at some stuff re Sly one sec.
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Post Post #3088 (isolation #129) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:11 am

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In post 1423, Baby Spice wrote:Hell, Slysly could be Sixx's scum buddy who realized that Sixx had actually quoted his role pm and was going to be modkilled regardless.

Probably means hes not red. Baby was more in the business of legitimately hunting blue and ignoring reds.

In post 2576, Jal wrote:Hilariously enough, just about everyone who has had AA as a strong town read has gotten night-killed. I'm loving how wrong Sly's reads have been.

This is what I was looking for though; I forgot who said it, it is interesting because you have Jal saying Slys reads are bad but it doesn't make sense why she chose Sly over everyone else why were his reads so memorable.
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Post Post #3089 (isolation #130) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:29 am

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Wind

Your read on me is?
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Post Post #3092 (isolation #131) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:56 am

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Why?
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Post Post #3102 (isolation #132) » Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:16 am

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I might later
In post 2573, Baby Spice wrote:
In post 2537, Slandaar wrote:that WoW ISO looks completely different and I looked at it for 2 seconds

Then you should read her posts this game.

Vote AA

Odds AA is Baby Spices buddy from this quote?

Very High.

Context: Sland has Caught Baby; Baby knows Sland has caught her; Baby very strongly implies Sland is wrong on something else; the reason to do it with a scumbuddy is to try to convince me I am wrong on her because she was right on AA. There is a strong implication that Baby knows AA is scum.
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Post Post #3107 (isolation #133) » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:20 am

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I have literally no idea why you voted me still I am clearly not red that quote basically proves it

You think Baby uses that tone with her buddy?
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Post Post #3112 (isolation #134) » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:51 pm

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Sorry Darthe you have failed your comedian audition better luck next time.
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Post Post #3113 (isolation #135) » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:52 pm

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In post 3109, ArcAngel9 wrote:
but that still doesn't explain how you conveniently you tried to twist my accusation on babyspice to make them look bad.

I didn't quote anything you said sooooooo that probably didn't happen did it?
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Post Post #3130 (isolation #136) » Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:10 am

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Penguin is obviously town

Along with Allyra, myself and Jal can be in this group too. Lurker is pretty town so its really 4 scum in 5 and Wind is not the townie.

Wind will be red scum because as Penguin said (and Darthe kind of); he should have been hammered if he were anything else as there would have been way more support for the wagon as that slot is an easy lynch like Jacob except it was a lot harder to get support than the Jacob wagon.
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Post Post #3131 (isolation #137) » Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:11 am

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Assuming Wind is Red; Darthe is the final town and scum is exactly what I said previously.
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Post Post #3133 (isolation #138) » Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:49 am

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Sorry DV but I don't believe you have a town PM.

:cop:

Too quiet etc. Blue makes most sense.
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Post Post #3134 (isolation #139) » Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:52 am

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I am now going to explain why we want to lynch red today.

If we lynch blue the situation tomorrow is 5:3 that is fact.
If we lynch red the situation tomorrow is anywhere from 4:2:1 (worst case) to 6:1 (best case)

Clearly its just plain better to leave blue alive another day if we had the choice. I am assuming DV is blue and have been for a while now.
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Post Post #3139 (isolation #140) » Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:19 am

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lynching blue today is only best for red scum because then town is in mylo 5:3 and has to lynch 3 scum in a row to win

lynching red today means scum can crosskill and even if it goes to 4:2:1 we can lynch the expected blue scum and be in the exact same spot ie 3:2 is no different to 5:3 except we lynched in a different order.
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Post Post #3140 (isolation #141) » Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:21 am

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and by suggesting you want to lynch blue you are insinuating you think DV is blue so there should be no issue lynching him as expected blue tomorrow instead of today pending night actions and lynch result.
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Post Post #3141 (isolation #142) » Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:25 am

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In post 3135, wind-up wrote:I strongly advise you to consider that the reason you are alive now is because you are wrong.


Sland Replaces in
GET BABY SPICE SHE SCUM GET THE RED SCUM
Baby spice gets nked she flips red

Next day
JAL SCUM JAL SCUM
OH WAIT TML BLUE GET HIM GET HIM
TML flips blue scum

Sland not die at night

Next day
Lets lynch Mcqueen/Wind

How did scum expect this again? they expected me to try to lynch Jal in case its not obvious which is town points her way. I guess your argument is sound; I was wrong on Jal.
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Post Post #3150 (isolation #143) » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:54 am

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I remember a conversation we had once where I was saying you are less active when you are scum in game X and you said something like 'well I thought posting less made me look more town in game X'

I don't have time to find it; but I really don't believe you would be so quiet as town.
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Post Post #3161 (isolation #144) » Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:26 am

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DV gave up hes blue not red and this lynch was terrible.
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Post Post #3163 (isolation #145) » Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:45 am

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AA/PV/Wind the exact 3 people I said were red end up on the DV wagon

and none wanted to vote Wind (obv wind didn't)

Just saying

Assuming I die tonight and DV is blue, you all should seriously just lynch the 3 named.
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Post Post #3166 (isolation #146) » Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:30 am

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In post 3164, ArcAngel9 wrote:Last time.. I am not Mafia Slandaar.

K thanks for letting me know.
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Post Post #3173 (isolation #147) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:24 pm

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PV is guaranteed to be bluescum

thinking on the rest.
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Post Post #3174 (isolation #148) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:51 pm

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Unless Jal played a very clever game regarding the TML/PR talk she is just town. I think it is just too elaborate.

Red scum AA/Wind

Penguin is always town assuming Allyra is; Allyra is town.

I will probably relook at a couple things but I don't see myself changing my mind.
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Post Post #3185 (isolation #149) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:40 pm

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Yes I am town obviously

Jal is town Allyra and penguin are town

There is no room at the inn for anyone else.

Just need to lynch blue today and then town autowins.
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Post Post #3186 (isolation #150) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:42 pm

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PV is very very very very likely blue because he never once voted any blue scum yet occasionally kind of questions them.

That is kinda hard to do if you are town.
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Post Post #3187 (isolation #151) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:43 pm

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I showed you all why AA is red that one post in context is huge.

Wind is red because if he were not he would have been lynched yesterday

Pretty simple.
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Post Post #3188 (isolation #152) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:46 pm

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In post 3176, ArcAngel9 wrote:
explain me how Allyra is town and penguin?
we are the end, don't make mistakes...i hope i am not blind sided about you.

In post 3172, ArcAngel9 wrote:i believe scum is between windup, peregrine and penguin alien

windup or penguin alien are good choices according to me....

Why is AA asking me why Allyra is town when she herself must have her as town?

Doesn't make a lot of sense.
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Post Post #3189 (isolation #153) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:47 pm

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In post 2927, Allyra wrote:VT

Theodore Greene and drive a 2002 Nissan sentra. I'd have preferred an earlier year 240sx, great for racing and just more fun to drive than a sentra but yeah.

Allyra; I want you to confirm this is the flavor and not your opinion.

If it is flavor as I interpreted this should confirm Penguin to you; do you really think Penguin claims a car you (presumably a townie) prefers? REALLY?
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Post Post #3190 (isolation #154) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:50 pm

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btw Penguin is clearly the easiest lynch left apart from PV which is why everyone is circling there today

See how much better we have been doing since we adopted my strategy of not just lynching the easy lynches and actually trying to lynch scummy people? yeah.
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Post Post #3191 (isolation #155) » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:20 am

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In post 3182, wind-up wrote:
In post 3161, Slandaar wrote:DV gave up hes blue not red and this lynch was terrible.

In post 3135, wind-up wrote:I strongly advise you to consider that the reason you are alive now is because you are wrong.

Is there a point to this post btw?
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Post Post #3193 (isolation #156) » Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:15 am

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ugh
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Post Post #3195 (isolation #157) » Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:49 am

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DV was much more reluctant to vote TML (blue) than Jal which he just voted purely on a sheep; I thought this made him blue scum not red scum; I explained why I wanted to lynch red yesterday.

That is the short version.
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Post Post #3197 (isolation #158) » Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:25 am

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Lets all just agree PV has to be bluescum and lynch him.

Jal isn't blue; all she does is hunt bluescum
Wind isn't blue; he would have been lynched yesterday
Penguin isn't blue she had no clue that arrest = bluescum kill
AA isn't blue because shes redscum
Allyra isn't blue because she is town
Same argument for me.

OK so I realised I probably need stronger arguments for AA/Allyra but I am clearly not blue because there is no way I don't just lynch DV yesterday if I were.
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Post Post #3205 (isolation #159) » Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:05 am

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This is the VC that matters regarding Red scum because it shows they clearly wanted to save MattP therefore we can conclude Red were not bussing.
In post 2274, StrangerCoug wrote:
VOTE COUNT

Aj The Epic (11): BirdAndBeast, The Mini-Librarian, Edosurist, Baby Spice, ArcAngel9, Skyhook, ? ×5

ArcAngel9 (1): thezmon221
Bumi (1): Aj The Epic
jmj3000 (1): PeregrineV
MattP (6): curiouskarmadog, Boniface, Jal, njoseph, Albus Dumbledore, Darthe
Not voting (6): Bumi, JacobSavage, jmj3000, MattP, UVApe

With
20
alive, it takes
11
players to lynch.

Your discussion about who has a reason for the Midnight Racing Club to be put out of existence is interrupted by machine gun fire. You run out to the scene of the shooting and find Bailey Smith's bloodied body limp in her 2003 Renault Clio V6. The killer got clean away, too. You decide to give her a funeral and end the day right there.


Aj The Epic, who was
Bailey Smith, the driver of a 2003 Renault Clio V6 and a vanilla townie
, has been executed on Day 2.


Night 2 ends in (expired on 2013-01-29 19:26:37).

And amazing there I am first vote on MattP

Amusing you didn't use this VC PV.
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Post Post #3216 (isolation #160) » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:48 am

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In post 3208, PeregrineV wrote:
And are you really suggesting that with 11 to lynch, scum wouldn't vote thier buddy in the first 6 with 2 competing wagons?

Try again.

In post 990, StrangerCoug wrote:
njoseph (4): Aj The Epic, nhammen, thezmon221, The Mini-Librarian
Sixx (6):
Albus Dumbledore, Parama
,
killerjester
,
Darthe, Bumi, Ztife

The Mini-Librarian (1): Robert2424
Ztife (6): Nachomamma8, BirdAndBeast, jeck, Jal, Edosurist, Sixx
Not voting (6): PMysterious, JacobSavage, ArcAngel9, Baby Spice, curiouskarmadog, njoseph

There are no bluescum voting Sixx in the first 6 votes here and there are THREE competing wagons????????????????? it is even 13 to lynch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE PV?!
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Post Post #3227 (isolation #161) » Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:54 pm

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In post 3224, wind-up wrote:
Also, as I've said yesterday, being on a mislynch draws suspicion to you, something scum tend to avoid. Hence why mcqueen wasn't lynched at L-1.

How does this make sense?
Penguin can't be scum as she wouldn't want to be on a mislynch hence she wouldn't vote you if you are town then; why are you voting town again?
Scum don't like being on mislynches so they avoid them instead they prefer bussing? so Penguin is red and so are you?

Wind is scum.

If you are town Red and Blue would not know this; in fact the reason you were not hammered is literally 2 things;
1. Not enough people of the other team(s) and town thought you were scum
2. Your team did not want to bus you.

Those are the only options.

This post is excruciatingly bad and so Wind is scum.

Wind is trying to lynch someone he thinks is redscum when anyone who has put thought into today can see we must lynch blue not red. Wind is obviously scum as lynching town Penguin today takes us to 3:2:1 red kills blue blue town Red wins. And Red know who blue is; its PV; I told them.
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Post Post #3228 (isolation #162) » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:00 pm

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In post 3225, wind-up wrote:
It's a reminder that you are in fact fallible, as we saw yesterday.

You mean when I said DV was scum and he was?
Or Darthe was town and he was?
Or maybe you mean lurker was town like I said but you said he was scum? Lurker, the easiest lynch available a bit like Penguin is now.

Ah now we are getting somewhere.

Or perhaps you talk about a previous flip?
TML I say hes scum guess what?
Boni is town! he flips town!
I say Albus is town guess what he flipped wind? hazard a guess did he flip scum?
Baby Spice I say scum ... and kapow
Thez meh I hadn't a read on him so call that a non entity.
Last but not least Jacob; I say town.

I see your point Wind. It is very good! I must stick to my reads.
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Post Post #3232 (isolation #163) » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:19 pm

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Good Job ignoring the point about we need to lynch blue today

Confirmed scum Wind is red; Penguin is therefore not.
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Post Post #3234 (isolation #164) » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:50 pm

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Penguin isn't blue so what is your vote accomplishing other than helping scum?

Ah

Let us say talk hypothetically; let us say that penguin was blue; why were no red scum voting you at L-1 wind? could you explain that to me. This is afterall a possible scenario in your mind as otherwise you would not be voting would you?
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Post Post #3236 (isolation #165) » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:56 pm

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Better than you it seems.
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Post Post #3238 (isolation #166) » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:06 am

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In post 3235, wind-up wrote:
I suggest you have another look over #3233 and see if you can answer all those questions for yourself.

In post 3233, wind-up wrote:I know we need to lynch blue today. But because I do not know who blue is, I will vote for scum in the meantime.

I see no questions here.

Therefore;
In post 3235, wind-up wrote:Hmm, I'm not sure how good you are at reading comprehension

In post 3236, Slandaar wrote:Better than you it seems.

(harharhar)

If you wish to play the reading comprehension game; You just lost.

In post 3237, wind-up wrote:Ah, the long and storied tradition of "I know you are, but what am I?" Points for effort.

This post looks rather silly now doesn't it?
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Post Post #3240 (isolation #167) » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:29 am

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That makes no sense;
In post 3234, Slandaar wrote:Penguin isn't blue so what is your vote accomplishing other than helping scum?

In post 3233, wind-up wrote:I know we need to lynch blue today. But because I do not know who blue is, I will vote for scum in the meantime.

Question answered? Verdict: No.

In post 3234, Slandaar wrote:why were no red scum voting you at L-1 wind?

In post 3233, wind-up wrote:I know we need to lynch blue today. But because I do not know who blue is, I will vote for scum in the meantime.

Question answered? Verdict: No.

Were you lying to me Wind?
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Post Post #3245 (isolation #168) » Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:57 am

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He understands he should be voting for blue; therefore he should not be voting untill he has decided who blue is; instead he is voting penguin and wants others to vote with him (secretly)

There is literally no reason to be voting unless you are sure you have found bluescum.

He is therefore scum, he is red and so penguin isn't. Easy.
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Post Post #3249 (isolation #169) » Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:11 am

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Maybe I should actually read this thread. Maybe.
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Post Post #3251 (isolation #170) » Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:36 am

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I am going to tell you all a secret

Wind has triggered a scumtell I have which has been 100% accurate. over 5 or so times I have seen it.
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Post Post #3273 (isolation #171) » Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:34 am

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So I had a theory; I realised that When TML claimed he was rbed Red would know he was lying and therefore knew he was scum so to find red scum we needed just to look at how people reacted to TML claim he was roleblocked;
In post 2314, The Mini-Librarian wrote:
I was roleblocked last night
Really the only explanation for B&B's death.

Not voting yet, cause I need to regroup. Gut says to vote Dumbledore.

In post 2317, ArcAngel9 wrote:If not Skyhook, I strongly think there is scum in Albus and Mini. does anyone agree on this?

So, that is strike one.

And then as soon as I make the case on TML and vote him explaining why hes scum;
In post 2834, ArcAngel9 wrote:i have been up to Mini wagon since B&B night kill.. He and I was bit confident that mini could be scum
Mini -Time to talk..

VOTE: The Mini Librarian

Literally she is admitting to being scum in this quote; redscum.

And it is really freaking obvious.
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Post Post #3275 (isolation #172) » Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:39 am

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Penguin is town

Why is she red not blue again AA?
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Post Post #3279 (isolation #173) » Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:59 am

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I explained why I didn't vote DV so you are not actually reading the thread it seems.

In post 3277, ArcAngel9 wrote:
If you're not the red scum, why didn't there to his lynch wagon?

I wanted to lynch wind

What was the point to this question? If you're not the red scum why would you vote Jacob? Its such fake questioning.

And you 'forgot' to answer my question AA; why isn't penguin blue?
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Post Post #3280 (isolation #174) » Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:05 am

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In post 3278, ArcAngel9 wrote:And FOLKS ..
Think about this.. if i am the red scum, why would i hammer DV? I could have saved him by pushing for Wind up lynch
and that way, i out beat the town and secured my win with just the night kill...
that explains to you that i am not the red scum , which means Slaandar and Penguin are the red scums.

Because Wind is also Red.

And no; even if what AA says here were true it doesn't mean Penguin and I are scum this is just the easiest way for scum to fake reads.

Why don't we look at an earlier VC;
In post 2274, StrangerCoug wrote:
Aj The Epic (11): BirdAndBeast, The Mini-Librarian, Edosurist, Baby Spice, ArcAngel9, Skyhook, ? ×5

ArcAngel9 (1): thezmon221
Bumi (1): Aj The Epic
jmj3000 (1): PeregrineV
MattP (6): curiouskarmadog, Boniface, Jal, njoseph, Albus Dumbledore, Darthe
Not voting (6): Bumi, JacobSavage, jmj3000, MattP, UVApe

Why were you voting AJ to save MattP; AA?
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Post Post #3281 (isolation #175) » Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:07 am

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What happened yesterday is this; two wagons made by town and bluescum on 2 of the redscum

AA avoided both wagons untill late when she realised that one of them was going to be lynched so she hammered and then comes into the day with the easy argument that Penguin and I are red because we didn't vote DV? lol

Well Darthe was voting wind... he was town so that argument doesn't hold. In fact one sec.
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Post Post #3283 (isolation #176) » Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:10 am

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yeah Darthe was killed by redscum last night so that makes it even more obvious that AA planned to come into today with this plan

Unless someone thinks a team of Sland/Penguin would kill the only town on the Wind wagon? of course not

So I just confirmed Penguin and myself as town.
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Post Post #3284 (isolation #177) » Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:11 am

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Wind/AA red

I am fairly sure its PV blue fairly freaking sure but I want to actually read the whole thread before I vote today
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Post Post #3289 (isolation #178) » Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:57 am

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In post 3214, ArcAngel9 wrote: then it will be 2 town and 1 scum in the night which means Town Wins!!!

In post 3217, penguin_alien wrote:Two town and one scum at night is a scum win, ArcAngel9, barring a PGO or some such. But nice try.

I do find this hilarious.
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Post Post #3298 (isolation #179) » Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:27 am

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AAs case on me is basically this; If I were town I should have known DV were redscum and voted him.

Obviously this is untrue; as town there is no way for me to know this; and that is literally her whole case so shes scum.

PV what is your case?

also; no red doesn't have a bp that was DV he died.

Why did you list the possibilities of lynching town? not lynching scum considering this must be what you think is going to happen?
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Post Post #3305 (isolation #180) » Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:57 am

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By lynching blue it leaves the game completely in towns hands. Without that you have to rely on scum to help kill each other which is terrible. There really is nothing else to say it is that black and white. The chance for crosskills was last night but neither scumteam helped so now we will just lynch them all starting with blue.
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Post Post #3310 (isolation #181) » Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:07 am

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AA

Why are you assuming Wind is town?
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Post Post #3312 (isolation #182) » Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:14 am

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offtopic: I know its wynd but I think of him as in win-d everytime I write wind and it is really annoying so from now on I am calling wind wynd.
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Post Post #3316 (isolation #183) » Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:33 am

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OK everyone keep arguing I am currently reading the thread; no hammering anyone before I finish thanks.

@AA: You say Penguin and I are scum because we were not voting DV; what if Wind is also red scum? You need to come up with a better explanation than 'you no vote DV you red'
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Post Post #3319 (isolation #184) » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:06 am

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OK look Penguin reads town to me thats just how it is there is no other way to explain it I can go get posts and say 'this seems town' but whats the point? because it doesn't mean anything to anyone else.

It is very unlikely Penguin is blue; very unlikely; and the chance of her being red is low because the fact is she couldn't see why TML was blue which if she were red she would have known hence the 'well its a bad claim to make as its very risky' doesn't make sense; why would she as red scum defend bluescum who was being strung up?
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Post Post #3322 (isolation #185) » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:18 am

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She as red scum would know TML is blue scum because she would know they killed B&B without the use of any fancy shenanigans how do I know this? because there is no way red scum has that 5x vot a 1shot bp and ANOTHER PR when town has Doc and Vig.

NO WAY

Therefore all redscum knew TML was blue when he claimed to have protected B&B

So, from there you need to wonder what redscum would think it a good idea to defend blue scum when it will make them look like blue themselves which is currently your stance on things.
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Post Post #3323 (isolation #186) » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:19 am

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(protip: no redscum would think that a good idea; hey look at my case on AA all this adds up)
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Post Post #3326 (isolation #187) » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:33 am

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Well I literally conftowned myself

Let me finish reading before I confuse myself more.
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Post Post #3332 (isolation #188) » Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:55 am

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Tell me what you think about Jeck, Allyra.
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Post Post #3340 (isolation #189) » Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:18 am

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Sorry I am being quiet while readjusting.
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Post Post #3341 (isolation #190) » Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:20 am

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AA what do you actually think about windup ignore the fact he was competing wagon with DV and actually talk about your read.
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Post Post #3346 (isolation #191) » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:32 am

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In post 3335, PeregrineV wrote:
Let's start with Slandaar.

why are you ignoring everything I'm asking you?

And you keep trying to confirm yourself as town.

Since that's not going to happen without proof, walk me through whatever posts you need to prove you are not bluescum. Do it like I'm 6.

Oh Hi PV!

OK

I lynched TML?

There is a reason I don't answer some questions.
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Post Post #3347 (isolation #192) » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:35 am

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PV you have seen me as scum

Do you really think I am not town? REALLY?
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Post Post #3349 (isolation #193) » Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:22 am

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I feel so much less confirmation biased

Its so nice

The Tranquility of it all.
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Post Post #3356 (isolation #194) » Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:42 pm

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In post 3353, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3347, Slandaar wrote:
There may be more, but those are in long-term memory, and while you were more lurky in Blood Bowl, your evasiveness now is not helping anything.

DBZ/Starwars might be one more I forget
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Post Post #3357 (isolation #195) » Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:46 pm

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In post 3354, PeregrineV wrote:
I also gave windup=town reasoning ( and ).
Can you follow the logic?
Do you agree or disagree with it?

I specifically think proves you are not bluescum. You brought up actual scumminess by a player under heavy suspicion and explained it all in one sentence. At that point you were no longer in danger, and you could have diverted the wagon from TML or just ignored it if you were bluescum.
Agree or disagree (with the logic behind my conclusion)?

I disagree with all this nonsense

Anyways

VOTE: Wind-up
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Post Post #3360 (isolation #196) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:15 am

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Hi everyone

This is quite the intense situation for everyone town and scum alike so let us all just take a breath, chill out and remind ourselves of that great moment when we lynched TML

There were murmurs there were accusations towards TML, but they were slight, however, the mighty Slandaar rode in and made the case! It was a great case

Jal then made a very funny post!
In post 2811, Jal wrote:
In post 2808, Slandaar wrote:Eh I think TML is blue scum.


Stop.

In post 62, The Mini-Librarian wrote:Whoa baby

VOTE: thezmon221

Definite scum here.


TML casts his first vote serious vote in the game against scumbuddy Thez who had no prior suspicion vs keeping it on his RVS vote or choosing among 23 other choices he could probably fixate on?

No.

What a joker that Jal is!

PV argued DV was scum and correct he was! but we had TML the blue scum to lynch!

Slandaar led the Charge
With AA following shortly behind!
Albus was puzzled but things were soon explained and sure Enough Albus followed shortly afterwards!

He even added to the case! let us remind ourselves what Albus said;
In post 2838, Albus Dumbledore wrote: Excuse the huge wall of quotes, but just take a look at how he goes from saying that he'll vote Edo if my wagon dies to jumping on Jacob's wagon without ever mentioning him AFTER the Baby Spice wagon builds up.

Oh this is a very intriguing argument indeed! It was wrong at least the argument he made but one has to wonder where DID the Edo suspicion go?

Oh there it is! a couple posts later TML votes Edo shall we call it coincidental?

Lets! it was a coincidence!

Let us look for more coincidences!

In post 62, The Mini-Librarian wrote:Whoa baby

VOTE: thezmon221

Definite scum here.

In post 2842, The Mini-Librarian wrote:
Oh and guys. Edos is scum.

The abrupt nature and strength of the accusations were only ever made on two people!

Could this be just another coincidence? Could TML really have tried a last ditch distancing attempt with the final Blue scum Edo?

You decide.
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Post Post #3365 (isolation #197) » Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:20 pm

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He never uses the word scum in those posts so the strength is infinitely weaker.

He never had anything close to a 3 word 'this guy is scum' in there so yeah abruptness stands also.

And I don't know his meta and don't care; you 'knowing' more means nothing.

It appears you had the time to post though which is shall we say... interesting.
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Post Post #3368 (isolation #198) » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:17 am

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In post 3361, wind-up wrote:
Do scum ever do that? TML certainly didn't try a last ditch distancing attempt with me when I played with him in, oh, my most recently completed game on site.

He didn't do it there so he didn't do it here!

That isn't quite how it works.

In post 3362, wind-up wrote:
So I'm pretty confident that I know more about TML's scum meta than you.

So? what are you saying? I am wrong because you have more experience with him?

Nope that doesn't make sense; I can still be right.

In post 3363, wind-up wrote:
"does not lead to a b&b vote in any way. Fabricated read etc." Any prior suspicion of idiotking? Nope!

'Fabricated Read etc' vs 'Edos is scum'

Difference is clear.

In post 3363, wind-up wrote:
"the evidence against nj is much, much more convincing than the sixx wagon"

Well that sure compares to 'Edos is scum'

Wait, no, it doesn't.
In post 3363, wind-up wrote:
"threw up a little bit in my mouth"

Same thing again, doesn't compare.
In post 3364, wind-up wrote:Meta Post

Missing the point.

He only was really strong on 2 votes; one of which was thez the other... your slot. Because he knew he was right.
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Post Post #3369 (isolation #199) » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:20 am

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We shall ignore the interesting timing because coincidences do happen occasionally and that is one that might be an actual coincidence
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