Micro 100: Nomination Mafia (Game over!)

[Wisdom]

The only certain thing is that if we lynch scum now, we've won this.
Why don't you want to hammer TAM? Explain why you think he is town and why Reck is scum.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I don't think he is town. I think TAM/Reck has the possibility of being scum. I'm buying Reck/Matt more and more, so Reck's lynch is the safest for me.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

And as for why Reck is scum, you can just ISO him and look at how seriously he's being taken.

That being said, Matt, why are you not voting Reck despite saying that Reck looks more and more scum yesterday?

^makes me think Matt/Reck, which is why I don't want to vote TAM.

[MattP]

Ok

Orc/TAM

Don't even give a shit

[xRECKONERx]

Yep.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Wisdom please :/

I don't understand why you would think Reck is town right now.

[Quilford]

Day 3

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The Acting Method

(2) xRECKONERx, MattP

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xRECKONERx

(2) orcinus_theoriginal, The Acting Method <<<

Not Voting

(1) Wisdom

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With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Deadline hits in (expired on 2013-01-13 10:07:00).

[xRECKONERx]

SOMEONE HAMMER TAM FFS

I'M TOWN AS FUCKING BALLS

BIRTHDAY BELATED PLOWERS ACTIVATE EVERYBDY VOTE TAM

[MattP]

TAM if you're town and Reck is scum you should feel bad for your switch to Reck and you have no right to say endgame that you were right and we were wrong that is all

[xRECKONERx]

Wisdom.

Hammer TAM.

[Wisdom]

Wisdom.

Hammer TAM.

no

[The Acting Method]

TAM if you're town and Reck is scum you should feel bad for your switch to Reck and you have no right to say endgame that you were right and we were wrong that is all

How does this statement make sense? I'm missing something... Big with this statement.

I've made it quite clear, I only voted Reck because Orc is unwilling to see if you MattP are scum.

So, if Reck is scum and I'm town, I should feel bad about changing my vote to scum?

Please do explain how that works.

[xRECKONERx]

ok then Wisdom, hammer me and end the game

idgaf anymore, TAM is scum that's all I'm going to keep saying

[MattP]

TAM if you're town and Reck is scum you should feel bad for your switch to Reck and you have no right to say endgame that you were right and we were wrong that is all

How does this statement make sense? I'm missing something... Big with this statement.

I've made it quite clear, I only voted Reck because Orc is unwilling to see if you MattP are scum.

So, if Reck is scum and I'm town, I should feel bad about changing my vote to scum?

Please do explain how that works.

You could have gotten Reck and Wisdom on me

They both have called me scum at some point recently enough

If you were town you would have fought for a lynch on someone you were positive was scum, ESPECIALLY in lylo

You're a fucking liar and you're gonna die qq

[Wisdom]

TAM if you're town and Reck is scum you should feel bad for your switch to Reck and you have no right to say endgame that you were right and we were wrong that is all

Do you know how I read this post? Matt knows I'm having a hard time deciding who to hammer so he's trying to manipulate me into thinking this way. He wants me to hammer TAM based on that terrible voteswitch and think that if TAM is actually town, it's not my fault but TAM's for doing that.

I was about to hammer TAM but Matt's move has made me indecisive again.

[Wisdom]

What I know is that TAM/Reck makes little sense now. Reck knows he has lost if I hammer TAM, because as he himself said we can just lynch both partner candidates (Reck and orcinus) and win.

So it's Reck/Matt OR TAM/Orc. This means that on D2 we either had Reck/Matt nominating 3 townies, or had TAM/Orc nominating the both of them.

The latter might seem like a farfetched scumplay, but it did happen in a past Nomination game

which orcinus played in.

Then again, scum lost there so I don't know if orcinus would want to try that as scum. If we take into account that TAM would not nominate himself as scum because he reacts badly to pressure, the plan I see for scum is the following: orc was a fairly strong townread for everyone, TAM was on the scumdar of most people. They nominated both of themselves, and orc tried to bus TAM in order to further add to his towncred. Matt, Reck, jmo, myself, we all had our fair share of scummy moments so gaining the win after that would not be that impossible.

The first scenario seems more logical though; scum nominating only townies. Given the mislynch D1, the assured mislynch of D2 means lylo on D3; and both Matt and Reck are skilled enough to win the lylo.

There have been scummy moments for both Reck and TAM, and there have been town moments for both Matt and Orc, making this hard to decide. I do not buy Reck's ignorance of the mechanic on the beginning of D2. He's an experienced player, he has modded games, and he generally does not look like the one who would play a game without knowing the mechanics. On the other hand, I can see some posts where TAM has reacted badly to pressure, just like he himself said he does, and then there's this awful following-orcinus vote which I can not see coming from town. He was so confident Matt is scum, how does he drop the vote on him so easily and vote someone else? What if it was Matt-orcinus? Or Matt-Wisdom?

Tell me your thoughts and if you are town, don't be passive and let me decide, because I assure you I'll choose wrong.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

TAM/Reck is the last scumteam, just so you know.

I played in the game where I caught both scum up on the block and that is why I would never do it to myself.

If you look through Reck's posts, we see Reck talking about not nominating a single scum to be lynched. I think he was relying on me to use my "at least one scum on the block" thing.

I think you talk yourself into why Reck is scummy. Which is why I want you to vote Reck.

To be honest I buy Reck/TAM over everything else but Reck is a better lynch today for the possibility of Reck/Matt. If you look at the interactions on Matt's side, he has a solid town read on Reck up to the point where I prompted him on it, to which point Matt promptly switches to a Reck scumread on day 2. And on day 3, he forgets it.

And look at "the amounts of shit" Reck is giving this game. If anything, there is more reason to vote him than TAM.

As to if you're wondering whether or not my vote on TAM switched, it hasn't. I think Reck is scummy as hell right now, TAM was scummy (less so), and jmo was a dick.

:/ Honestly I think you're choosing between two scum right now which is why everyone else seems so disinterested, but the above is why Reck is the better choice.

[Wisdom]

Reck seems interested enough in me hammering TAM, while he has no chance of winning if they are partners.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Nah, it's half hearted/disinterested/almost instinctual

but okay. Reck is scum and TAM isn't.

Just lynch Reck.

[MattP]

Lol at Orc saying tam is scum but not voting him to hammer and then immediately backtracking on the tam scumread to pander to wisdom and get the reck mislynch

Cheers for terrible transparent scum play

[xRECKONERx]

Can we lynch TAM now plz

Orc is claiming scum with him in every post

Thanks

[MattP]

Orc, you fucked up by not backtracking on your townread on me. You should have immediately made it me/Reck vs you/TAM because you had Wisdom in your back pocket. You not doing so and trying to be greedy at the same time with a Reck mislynch when TAM is/was L-1 was the nail in the coffin for your scumteam

[MattP]

Basically Orc you're pretty much confirmed scum by this point and you're only even slightly feasible chance of changing that would be to vote TAM but a TAM scumflip will confirm me and Wisdom as town and will allow us with two lynches to kill off you and Reck, guaranteeing a town win so you literally fucked yourself by not bussing TAM immediately

[MattP]

OR backtracking on your townread on me as I said and having me be the mislynch today over Reck. Wisdom has had me as a scumread for a large portion of the game, and you had TAM's vote obviously, so that would have been enough to get me off the island. SHRUGS

In any case, Wisdom, Orc not voting TAM, who he claims is scum, and his obstinance for a Reck lynch is the nail in the coffin for him.

[MattP]

I love how everyone is ignoring this thread

Orc, fucking answer to me. Wisdom, fucking vote TAM