Open 477: Faith +1 (Game Over)

[Robocopter87]

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• serrapaladin [ 0 ]
  
• BoroPhil [ 0 ]
  
• theslimer3 [ 0 ]
  
• RachMarie [ 0 ]
  
• No Lynch [ 1 ] RachMarie

Not Voting

: serrapaladin, BoroPhil, theslimer3

Amount To Lynch

: With 4 alive it is 3 to lynch

Deadline

: 11:59PM on May 17th

[theslimer3]

Rach, final thought. Help me out here.

Given the theory that I did not make it to lylo by being a bad player and WiFoM'd my way here as scum, what would you say is the chances that I would end up being lynched this game?

But on a twist to that, forgetting that Boro is Conf-town and he did not claim, and dead,
Would your views still be to go after Serra? And farther, does serra seem like scum enough for you to be confident in your vote in him? As for Mae I mean him.
just a chat towards you.

[RachMarie]

Based on Mae's content and the fact she avoided the scum wagaonz yeah I feel good about Mae being scumz but Serra ehh is making me wonder if I am wrong...

You of course are you and every time I thought you were scumz I was wrong... so acck this game.... Boro you are as good as it gest not to lynch have you any thoughts to add?

[BoroPhil]

I haven't a clue. I've been trying to think what I'd be like today if I was scum. I think I'd be trying to present as town an image as possible. Rach, slimer, you seem barely half interested, you keep missing/forgetting stuff. Is that the behaviour of scum? Possibly.

But I had Mae pegged as scum all along, I don't think there is enough for me to change my mind. Serra has come in and appeared helpful, yet that is what I would expect him to do if he was scum.

VOTE: serrapaladin

[serrapaladin]

I'm honestly not scum though... Please reconsider?

I probably would have made a similar entrance as scum, replacing in this late, but I do think Beli's post gives convincing evidence that Mae wasn't scum. Read any of Beli's scumgames and you'll find he wouldn't completely bus both of his scumbuddies with his first post, unless he had no other choice. If there's anything else in Mae's play you'd like me defend, I'll do my best, but please don't just give this to scum now.

"Avoiding the scum wagons" is a blatant mischaracterisation of Mae's play by Rach. Mae was actually on both lynch wagons, as was DO. It was slimer that was on neither, as I've pointed out.

[RachMarie]

I will double check Mala's points in her VCAs

[serrapaladin]

If anyone, I'd say it points to slimer. If either DO or Mae had been scum, the votes on Carey came in way too quick succession from scum. And slimer wasn't on either scum-lynch wagon.

[RachMarie]

Day 1 Lynch

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ooops I mimssed this vote sorry Serra...


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Not Voting: unseencamo, Maenara, Light-kun, BoroPhil, theslimer3,

And this one too


Not Voting: Psyche, Light-kun

You are right and now I see why Mala kept going back and forth on her Slimer read uggh

[serrapaladin]

Why are you giving Mala's reads such weight? I agree she's a capable player, but she's just as town as everyone else that has flipped.

Do you agree that Beli wouldn't start off bussing both of his scumbuddies? And do you think scum would have been on or off the lynch wagons, given how they both went down?

[RachMarie]

Not sure on Bell, though he is a fairly competent player from what I have seen in the game we were in together though a newbie... And I cant see a single reason why DO as scum would push and get both his scum budz lynched? It totally makes no sense to me. One I could see but BOTH?

hmm it is not looking good for Slimer is it

[RachMarie]

It was the VCA actually though I admit that I missed some of them She did the entire vote count from the beginning I think?

[RachMarie]

Plus the other FH also was pushing Mae so yeah

[serrapaladin]

Well, Boro has voted me now, and slimer has promised to vote with Boro. If you're scum, you can just wait for that and hammer me for the win. We'll find out your alignment depending on whether you hammer or not, and then you and Boro can decide between slimer and me.

All the arguments you're making for DO not being scum because he pushed both scum-wagons is also valid for Mae, and I would say Beli's case was more extreme, being his first post after replacing in. If I were scum, Beli would have literally used his first post to fos 1 scumbuddy and vote the other.

[theslimer3]

No offends but your turn to me seems like desperation, so it's funny xD.

But I told you, my next vote will be on scum. Unfortunately Boro took that as "not being serious" e.e

If anything I want Boro to sheep me Dx

[RachMarie]

Who are you talking to Slimer?

[theslimer3]

I'm talking to serra.

But really though Boro. Hear me out. Just give me your vote, I won't let you down. I've clowned this whole game and I really will show you I'm interested and strong enough.
It's Serra or Rach, and your vote seemed like you gave up too.
But I'll get to the bottom of this and find scum in 3 days. I promise 0:<

so new plan.
When I get to a PC, I'm going to overlook both your metas and what you do in lylo/mylo.

[RachMarie]

besides hating it LOL which I do no matter what my alignment I hate being in MYLO or LYLO

[theslimer3]

Well in all my scum games (excluding the only one I lost) I always made it with the full scum team xD
So I always loved it

[serrapaladin]

Yo, DL is coming up. If you wanna do something slimer, do it soon, so we don't have a deadline rush.

[theslimer3]

Oi.

Rach was really aggressive as scum. Reasonable for a second, but she kinda took charge. It was funny to see her get bussed and failed though xD
In lylo, she was cautious. Like in most Less Pressure games, you can't really bus your scumbuddy to l look town because that could screw you over. In the same sense, you can't protect them either. That was a conditional thing that I saw her struggle with.
Either way, I'm not seeing much similarities here, however.

Serra was kinda aggressive in our game as mafia. Most of the time he was arguing with me (which I think I bussed quite well there, if I might add), but his assertions of trying to get more reads is quite unneeded. Also his talking about the NK was another conditional thing.
He's more peaceful here.
And his push for GM was also a subtile slip.
I can kinda see the similarities here, but not many.


I'm back to square one.


And I'll be honest, I'm feeling like it's Serra, but I just know that if I vote him, Rach will hop on and we'll lose

[Robocopter87]

la de da

doop de doo

boro has been prodded

(for a last tie to mafia commitments, you guys are pretty awesome at dragging it out)

[serrapaladin]

And I'll be honest, I'm feeling like it's Serra, but I just know that if I vote him, Rach will hop on and we'll lose

What does this even mean? You think it's me, but you think if you vote me Rach will win?

I'm town, and I'm still leaning Rach over you, but do vote me if you really want, so we can at least know for sure whether it's Rach or not...

[theslimer3]

KFINE.
AND I'M SORRY.

VOTE: serra

Another game slimer has lost? ;-;

[theslimer3]

UNVOTE:

Lurking rach Dx

[theslimer3]

RACHEL SAY SOMETHING OR I'M LYNCHING YOUR ASS