Micro 148: 50/50 Mafia (OVER)

[Hyperion]

yes

[Hyperion]

^awkward top of page quote, in response to 99

[Kid A]

Nope. In response to TNE's FOS, KidA is either a townie saying he doesn't want mafia to control the anonymous vote, or he's scum pretending he doesn't want mafia controlling the anonymous vote to look town. Power roles don't come into that at all, so it's very strange for him to bring it up.

youre misunderstanding what we're talking about

1) TNE says I softclaimed that I was town - which he felt was a scumtell
2) I explained why no matter what role I had I would claim to be town

we werent arguing about the anonymous vote at that point

[Hamlet]

._.
Seriously? You have to wait for your head to give us some input?

We're a hydra of Belisarius and Fuzzybutternut, the heads refer to which player is speaking at any given time.

It's the first time as a hydra for both of us so we haven't quite got the hang of it yet.

[Hyperion]

yes but he is saying that you did not specifically claim VANILLA townie at first, just that you were town. So he wants to know why you are now saying you are vanilla, and why you even bothered to bring up roles when you were talking about alignments.
That being said, I don't really see anything to gain in following this line of questioning about mentioning the powerroles and suggest it should be put aside for now. We can keep talking about the possible scumclaim though, I just think that continuing mentioning the "if I was a power role" thing could accidently out a PR.

[Hyperion]

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Seriously? You have to wait for your head to give us some input?

We're a hydra of Belisarius and Fuzzybutternut, the heads refer to which player is speaking at any given time.

It's the first time as a hydra for both of us so we haven't quite got the hang of it yet.

I think he means why can't you say what you are thinking, instead of confering with your other head first. regardless of which head is looking at the thread right now, Belisarius or Fuzzy, what do you think about the game so far?

[Hyperion]

104 is in reply to 102. I'm too lazy to quote most of the time.

[PimHel]

I have seen scum say "well why aren't you scrutinizing me?" as an attempt to gain town cred. In fact I think I have done it before myself...
Also, prod votes on page 2 are a no-no. Its a way to act like your busy.
KX, have you ever been scum before? and can I get some links to scum games if you have?

True, especially gutsy scum, but in general it's a sign of town.

I don't even have an idea which smiley could represent my facial expression right now... It probably doesn't even exist yet...

@Zach
What do you think about the convo between KX and theNE?

@Hamlet
See post #105. There shouldn't be a reason to discuss first with your other head before posting your opinion.

[Hamlet]

@Hamlet
See post #105. There shouldn't be a reason to discuss first with your other head before posting your opinion.

It's not a matter of discussing it; I can't answer KX's question about why Kid A isn't looking so hot because I do not know the answer. My other head does.

I'm really not satisfied with TNE's answer as to why Kid A got singled out and not KX when KX was the first to mention killing the scum's ability to capitalise on the anon vote, but the speed at which his wagon is building gives me pause. I'm going to have to think over the TNE case before deciding on whether or not to cast a non-RVS vote.

I'm leaning town on KX at the moment for trying to capitalise on the game mechanics and for calling out TNE on the illogic behind FoSsing Kid A when KX did the same thing first; methinks scum would be more apt to be happy to dodge suspicion. It's a microtell, but I'll take it.

[zachattack]

I have no issue with KX calling out TNE for FOSing KidA but not him, the omission is something worth asking about. Ultimately KX seems to have come to the same conclusion I have about TNE: weak player, but townie. Had I been in the game at that point, my posts would have progressed along the same lines as KX I think.

[Hyperion]

@Hamlet
See post #105. There shouldn't be a reason to discuss first with your other head before posting your opinion.

It's not a matter of discussing it; I can't answer KX's question about why Kid A isn't looking so hot because I do not know the answer. My other head does.

I'm really not satisfied with TNE's answer as to why Kid A got singled out and not KX when KX was the first to mention killing the scum's ability to capitalise on the anon vote, but the speed at which his wagon is building gives me pause. I'm going to have to think over the TNE case before deciding on whether or not to cast a non-RVS vote.

I'm leaning town on KX at the moment for trying to capitalise on the game mechanics and for calling out TNE on the illogic behind FoSsing Kid A when KX did the same thing first; methinks scum would be more apt to be happy to dodge suspicion. It's a microtell, but I'll take it.

From now on can you guys sign your posts so we know if Belisarius or fuzzy is posting?
As for your second point, I don't see any scum motivation in attacking Kid A instead of KX, so TNE is still nullish.
Third point can get into WIFOM, because you would think scum would want to dodge the attention, but if scum thinks that then they could point it out to gain town cred. I think i already mentioned this earlier.

[Hyperion]

Can someone who doesn't like TNE omitting KX and attacking Kid A for the same thing please tell me what the motivation would be for that if TNE was scum, b/c I am definately not seeing it.

[KX]

Uh, the only thing I could think of is if you want to try and say both me and him are scum, and this is some complex pre-game pseudo-buss. Or perhaps nerves? Not to inflate my own ego, but it could also be they expected and easier time against Kid A. Otherwise no, it's not something scummy as such, just leads to the VI conclusion.

And yes, I've never been scum, at least in a game like this. In Real Time Chat mafia I've been scum, but I don't think I have any logs, and those are rather bad examples. In non-No Outside Contact games I've been mafia twice, but those were my first two games ever, and since it's a different play style, wouldn't compare to now at all. But yeah, otherwise Town every game.

[PimHel]

I'm really not satisfied with TNE's answer as to why Kid A got singled out and not KX when KX was the first to mention killing the scum's ability to capitalise on the anon vote, but the speed at which his wagon is building gives me pause. I'm going to have to think over the TNE case before deciding on whether or not to cast a non-RVS vote.

It's 2 votes. There's barely speed involved...

I have no issue with KX calling out TNE for FOSing KidA but not him, the omission is something worth asking about. Ultimately KX seems to have come to the same conclusion I have about TNE: weak player, but townie. Had I been in the game at that point, my posts would have progressed along the same lines as KX I think.

If you disagree with me on KX, then shouldn't you be all over me and KidA?

[Hamlet]

It's 2 votes. There's barely speed involved...

It was three with mine, which is L-2. You, me, and Kid A.

I don't like seeing L-2 including an RVS vote--especially mine--when RVS is over. Is that weird?

[thenewearth]

thoughts on me after the exchange?

Still reading. Though I'm kinda busy atm because of holy week (Nah not really because of holy week... Because of parents that force me into holy week)

So yeah... Fence-sitting at most

[Hamlet]

Other head here. My basic explanation of why Kid A isn't looking hot is because I know he can do better than that. However, TNE, OMGUS much?

[thenewearth]

However, TNE, OMGUS much?

Counter OMGUS.
And he asked for it. Come on... He wanted to get voted instead of leaving it as an FoS.

Also can you say which head is talking? Like...





"Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah

-Belisarius"

[Hamlet]

Where's the fun in that?

[KX]

Not that much fun either way, but it makes you easier to read. Making it so that it's harder to get a read on you is undeniably anti-town. Questions?

[Hamlet]

Fuck. Laugh not.

@mod: can you delete that so I can repost it on the right account pls?

Done.

[thenewearth]

Fuck. Laugh not.

Lol too late... Laughed before I saw you post not to laugh.

[PimHel]

It's 2 votes. There's barely speed involved...

It was three with mine, which is L-2. You, me, and Kid A.

I don't like seeing L-2 including an RVS vote--especially mine--when RVS is over. Is that weird?

Meh, it's clear. Though L-2 is good (A)

Vote: KX

[D3f3nd3r]

VC 1.1 (3/27/2013)

Zachattack (L-4) KX
Hyperion (L-4) Temphdq
Thenewearth (L-4) Kid A
Kid A (L-4) Thenewearth
Hamlet (L-5)
Temphdq (L-5)
CityElectric (L-5)
PimHel (L-5)
KX (L-3) Hyperion, PimHel
Not Voting (3) Zachattack, Hamlet, CityElectric

With 9 alive it's 5 to lynch.

Deadline is the night of 4/7/2013.

[Hamlet]

predictability incoming

Questions?

Yes. What is the refractive index of Perovskite?