Balto the Invitational - Game Over

Iecerint · Post Post #3225 (ISO) » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:47 am

Fate was pretty obvtown though.

ActionDan · Post Post #3226 (ISO) » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:49 am

In post 3225, Iecerint wrote:Fate was pretty obvtown though.

I agree.

but imo so was Triforce :#

Fate · Post Post #3227 (ISO) » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:12 am

but Triforce was CLAIMED VT.

I hadn't real claimed yet. It was very possible I had claimed BP as some sort of other PR that wanted to live

there's no way in fuck I was the right kill over Triforce

singersigner · Post Post #3228 (ISO) » Wed Sep 04, 2013 1:39 pm

True story. I was really sad when we weren't vigged.

quadz08 · Post Post #3229 (ISO) » Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:51 pm

Yeah, vigging us was pretty clearly the right play, tbh. We were that "I think they're probably town but aren't worth keeping around because scummy earlygame/WIFOM/have been frustratingly unhelpful" player, which is like Who To Vig 101.

Amrun · Post Post #3230 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:56 am

ha. ha. ha.

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #3231 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:02 am

In post 3229, quadz08 wrote:Yeah, vigging us was pretty clearly the right play, tbh. We were that "I think they're probably town but aren't worth keeping around because scummy earlygame/WIFOM/have been frustratingly unhelpful" player, which is like Who To Vig 101.

That's definitely what I was thinking N3 although I don't think it was that true by the end of game (as evidenced by your survival). I shouldn't've killed Fate because he definitely would've gotten MattP lynched.

Amrun · Post Post #3232 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:34 am

In post 3224, ActionDan wrote:well Triforce and Fate were both town.

Btw I'd like to mention that Trollie existed in this game. Let us not forget

he voted for the ic. xd

Amrun · Post Post #3233 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:59 am

In post 3193, Mina wrote:Now that I've learned the history of the game, people conflating Greatest and Greaterest Idea is much more understandable. And I definitely see where Iecerint is coming from on this. (It's a shame the name-change led to confusion, and that meet in-jokes mean different things to different people.) However, it's hard not to be snarky after being condescendingly told that it's a shame we're not humble enough to admit our set-up is trash because of
a flavour name
. I've fucked up balance and role mechanics as a mod before, and most of the time I flagellate myself copiously in the dead thread for it. But frankly, even after learning how closely tied Greaterest and Greatest are together, I don't think I'd change it if I ran this game again. Since when is "having easy-to-guess Mafia role names that fit a pattern and help the town narrow down scum power roles" something we should remotely
strive
for when designing a set-up?

(To use another analogy--which may be more or less accurate than the Star Trek or AFFC one: you know what else is horrible set-up design? In Faraday's ACoK Mafia, Robb Stark dayvigged people with his direwolf, Grey Wind. And yet, in ASoS, Robb Stark and Grey Wind were
two different characters
. So after Setael flipped Robb Stark, hascow should have been confirmed town, because only
Robb
would have a daykill. Even worse, in AGoT Mafia, the scumteam was Jaime, Cersei, and
Sandor Clegane
. Why Sandor? I mean, it
really
should have been Joffrey or Tywin.)

I think Matt deserves some credit for a creative fakeclaim, because without that, it wouldn't even matter that there was both a Greatest and Greaterest in the set-up. And even then, lots of things could have busted him (the order of the flips changing, the flavour WIFOM being read the other way, Trollie ever claiming that he'd been sent a Pikachu--since Amrun hadn't flipped as the Pikachu).

This, so many times.

In hindsight, I really regret not going for Tentacled Townie since BB probably would have backed down and I'd have looked so town.

TheTrollie · Post Post #3234 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:18 am

OK,

1. matt was obvscum and my reads REALLY WERE on fire this game (save BB).

2. I never received a Pikachu PM

Amrun · Post Post #3235 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:27 am

In post 3234, TheTrollie wrote:2. I never received a Pikachu PM

what?

Fate · Post Post #3236 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:11 am

In post 3234, TheTrollie wrote:OK,

1. matt was obvscum and my reads REALLY WERE on fire this game (save BB).

2. I never received a Pikachu PM

shut the hell up

quadz08 · Post Post #3237 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:23 am

ruuuuuuuuude

Kublai Khan · Post Post #3238 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:56 am

Damn, Matt! Awesome job!

Sorry I kinda flaked, I really wanted to write up a big counter/change up post, but could never find the time. I was half-hoping the lack of defense would be a defense in itself. Oh well.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3239 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:09 am

My nailing half the scum team got me NK night 1 AGAIN>

ActionDan · Post Post #3240 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:17 am

some people have very active imaginations.

Lost Butterfly · Post Post #3241 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:31 am

In post 3235, Amrun wrote:
In post 3234, TheTrollie wrote:2. I never received a Pikachu PM
what?

Well, that's not true. It's in our sentbox. (Although maybe he thought we were just sending him a picture of himself...but that'd be weird for mods to do in a title called "Balto the Invitational Event",so.

Zdenek · Post Post #3242 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:48 am

Well, that was stressful.

Matt's contributions were townie enough that despite his lurking, he seemed fairly townish all things considered. Good game.

TheTrollie · Post Post #3243 (ISO) » Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:26 am

In post 3241, Lost Butterfly wrote:
In post 3235, Amrun wrote:
In post 3234, TheTrollie wrote:2. I never received a Pikachu PM
what?
Well, that's not true. It's in our sentbox. (Although maybe he thought we were just sending him a picture of himself...but that'd be weird for mods to do in a timely,tle called "Balto the Invitational Event",so.

ur right u did send it, I had no recollection of that though lol