Micro 213 - Scumhunter's Speed [GAME OVER]

[Fifty Ways]

Lol no. I legitimately think that discussing the game when they could easily think of a counter plan is stupid.

Counter plan to what??

[Makiavel]

Lol no. I legitimately think that discussing the game when they could easily think of a counter plan is stupid.

Counter plan to what??

To the game in general, the way people are going to pressure you & so on? dear lord, is it just me expressing myself badly or what

[Fifty Ways]

damn maki
making a big deal about every word a person says is how you play the game
stop being so jittery

[Bertkerberos]

Mod: Can Xegarus and JKMatthews be prodded?

Done

[Xegarus]

Spoiler:

Also which game Xeg? The one with me (Madi), DBK & Absta?

Yep.

UNVOTE: kcdaspot
VOTE: Bertkerberos

You got that from an RVS vote? I'M THE GUNS OF THE NAVARONE!

OMGUS much?

UNVOTE: kcdaspot
VOTE: Bertkerberos

You got that from an RVS vote?

I'M THE GUNS OF THE NAVARONE!

bolded is samuel jackson wondering how i caught him so fast and trying to play off the rest with an awkward joke

Seems a little farfetched tbh.

What the shit? Are you like 14?
Insane overreaction, my vote seems pretty good...

no no...

I was in a hurry and caffinated

im calmer now.

an overreaction would be ALL CAPS CHEEKYSCUMFUCKINGFUCKFUCK and a vote for you.

thanks for YOUR overreaction thoo.

you're keeping the vote on cuz im acting 14...

K

Has anyone played with Kcd before?
Was his "over-reaction" true to his meta?
Cause if so then it makes this kinda void to my eyes.

His over reaction to a vote is actually spot on for scum.

we can lynch maki mañani

Can't you like let me chill a bit. Mafias have access to the mafia QT for 48 hours, I don't feel like discussing game stuff yo.

This is a pretty terrible reason to not want to discuss anything.

you're just letting lucky get away with it

Well he hasnt responded to you at this point so yeh.
Lucky, mind saying anything about what fifty has said about you?

Lol no. I legitimately think that discussing the game when they could easily think of a counter plan is stupid.

Again, pretty wack thinking.
Lets just not say anything until their deadline has ended. Only having 3 more days to discuss is the best.

oh ok go ahead
see what happens

Whats that supposed to mean?

So, sorry about not posting. Must have skimmed the 24hour prods.

I find Maki's thoughts on the scum chat kinda odd.
But reading through again, me and him recently finished a game where scum had a unlimited scum day chat. He was scum so he may be able to understand how OP it could or couldn't be.

My money is on JK, Lucky and maybe Maki scum atm.
Maki looks leaning scum to me.
I don't like JK's responses but having only 4 post i think i'll lay off the vote.
That leaves Lucky.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Lucky

[Makiavel]

Spoiler:

Also which game Xeg? The one with me (Madi), DBK & Absta?

Yep.

UNVOTE: kcdaspot
VOTE: Bertkerberos

You got that from an RVS vote? I'M THE GUNS OF THE NAVARONE!

OMGUS much?

UNVOTE: kcdaspot
VOTE: Bertkerberos

You got that from an RVS vote?

I'M THE GUNS OF THE NAVARONE!

bolded is samuel jackson wondering how i caught him so fast and trying to play off the rest with an awkward joke

Seems a little farfetched tbh.

What the shit? Are you like 14?
Insane overreaction, my vote seems pretty good...

no no...

I was in a hurry and caffinated

im calmer now.

an overreaction would be ALL CAPS CHEEKYSCUMFUCKINGFUCKFUCK and a vote for you.

thanks for YOUR overreaction thoo.

you're keeping the vote on cuz im acting 14...

K

Has anyone played with Kcd before?
Was his "over-reaction" true to his meta?
Cause if so then it makes this kinda void to my eyes.

His over reaction to a vote is actually spot on for scum.

we can lynch maki mañani

Can't you like let me chill a bit. Mafias have access to the mafia QT for 48 hours, I don't feel like discussing game stuff yo.

This is a pretty terrible reason to not want to discuss anything.

you're just letting lucky get away with it

Well he hasnt responded to you at this point so yeh.
Lucky, mind saying anything about what fifty has said about you?

Lol no. I legitimately think that discussing the game when they could easily think of a counter plan is stupid.

Again, pretty wack thinking.
Lets just not say anything until their deadline has ended. Only having 3 more days to discuss is the best.

oh ok go ahead
see what happens

Whats that supposed to mean?

So, sorry about not posting. Must have skimmed the 24hour prods.

I find Maki's thoughts on the scum chat kinda odd.
But reading through again, me and him recently finished a game where scum had a unlimited scum day chat. He was scum so he may be able to understand how OP it could or couldn't be.

My money is on JK, Lucky and maybe Maki scum atm.
Maki looks leaning scum to me.
I don't like JK's responses but having only 4 post i think i'll lay off the vote.
That leaves Lucky.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Lucky

We literally could react to anything you guys planned on doing that game and would plan everything thoughtfully based on your reactions and how to make it look natural. I personally think that waiting till they couldn't do that anymore was a smart choice, I don't know why it makes me scum, why would I want to throw my advantage away is something I just cant understand.

[Xegarus]

We literally could react to anything you guys planned on doing that game

Thats where the flaw lies in your line of thought.
That game lended itself to planning for the future. This game does not. You had the advantage against us during the planning we did. But for most of the actual game, when we were presenting our cases and what not. 2 of the scum (you and dbk) were always towards the line of being possible lynchs.
Do you honestly not see that you telling us to not talk or discus this game for 2 days, 40% of the time we have per day, is completely anti town.
So fucking what if scum can talk to each other? It does not take away from the fact that when someone does something scummy, they will be called out for it.
You are throwing towns ONLY attack away by telling us to lighten up.
You seem to be far too concious about this daytalk issue.

[Fifty Ways]

that case is terrible

[Lucky2u]

Xegarus... you know you should say why you think I am scum because right now you are saying why Maki is scum but voting me which is a bit odd. Unless Maki is your scum partner and you just don't want to vote him, then that line of logic works.

[Xegarus]

that case is terrible

How so?

Xegarus... you know you should say why you think I am scum

You have kinda blatantly ignored what fifty has said about you recently. That doesnt seem town behaviour in the slightest.

because right now you are saying why Maki is scum

I'm saying why Maki's line of thought anti town.

but voting me which is a bit odd.

A guy can't vote one person and grope another? What is this? Marriage?
My vote is towards you because of what fifty has said and pressure.
My vote isnt on Maki yet cause i'm still getting my thoughts together on him.

Unless Maki is your scum partner and you just don't want to vote him, then that line of logic works.

Or that, yeh.

[Lucky2u]

You have every right to grope two people, but I'd appreciate if you explained at least the one you vote.

I'm mostly ignoring fifty because I don't like getting into a defensive posture, wasting my time answering those questions and not reading others.

[Makiavel]

We literally could react to anything you guys planned on doing that game

Thats where the flaw lies in your line of thought.
That game lended itself to planning for the future. This game does not. You had the advantage against us during the planning we did. But for most of the actual game, when we were presenting our cases and what not. 2 of the scum (you and dbk) were always towards the line of being possible lynchs.
Do you honestly not see that you telling us to not talk or discus this game for 2 days, 40% of the time we have per day, is completely anti town.
So fucking what if scum can talk to each other? It does not take away from the fact that when someone does something scummy, they will be called out for it.
You are throwing towns ONLY attack away by telling us to lighten up.
You seem to be far too concious about this daytalk issue.

I agree that it seems like a waste of time, but even then, I DID IT THINKING that it was right, if that makes me scum, then so be it, vote me out & we're done with this. I might not have thought about the best choice, but that doesn't make me scum for it. People that vote me solely based on that reason and want me voted out so early just want an optimistic lynch, if you feel like that's the right way to go, then take it. I'm not gonna keep talking and arguing about a choice I felt would be good for the towns, each to his own way to think about whether it was a good or bad decision. You guys are blowing this way out of proportion and are wasting even more time than I did. Add up to that the fact that you guys didn't really do anything early on and you can consider literally every player antitown.

[Fifty Ways]

Xegarus... you know you should say why you think I am scum because right now you are saying why Maki is scum but voting me which is a bit odd. Unless Maki is your scum partner and you just don't want to vote him, then that line of logic works.

He's voting for you because you are avoiding my case. He's said that twice now.

[Fifty Ways]

I'm mostly ignoring fifty because I don't like getting into a defensive posture, wasting my time answering those questions and not reading others.

No, you're ignoring me because you know that what you've done is indefensible.

[Fifty Ways]

How so?

you're criticizing the quality of maki's play, not demonstrating how it exposes his alliance

[Lucky2u]

Xegarus... you know you should say why you think I am scum because right now you are saying why Maki is scum but voting me which is a bit odd. Unless Maki is your scum partner and you just don't want to vote him, then that line of logic works.

He's voting for you because you are avoiding my case. He's said that twice now.

I must be missing something (and with his short iso that's hard) where did he say that before I asked?

[Fifty Ways]

I'm not helping scum out.

[Fifty Ways]

(try opening the spoilers)

[Bertkerberos]

#88 is quite a bit of AtE. I'll let Nacho sort that out and say what he thinks about Makiavel's self-defeatist attitude and/or paranoia about the 48 hour scum day-talk. I'm leaning scum

Xegarus seems like a strong player. I'm finding him town so far.

Fifty is a little tunnely on Lucky...I read Fifty as town so far.

Samuel Jackson is like an energizer bunny. Null so far, need to see more.

JKMatthews needs to get his butt in here and say more. null but scummy with how he/she read us as town so quickly, but really not enough to go on at this point

Bert speaks the truth. I am the scummiest thing in a game usually.

More than anything, I dislike this comment. It's giving him/herself a way out for his scummy behavior. Not good. Leaning scum.

Kcdaspot - I read a few of his/her past games, and this person quits rather easily and can be quite fiery...so his reaction in this game (or overreaction) isn't anything to gape at....town so far

Anyways, I'll let Nacho sort this out, but

Scum: <Makiavel, Lucky2U>

Null/leaning scum: <JKMatthews>

Null: <Samuel Jackson>

Town: <Kcdaspot, Xegarus, Fifty Ways>

- Bert

[Bertkerberos]

#88 is quite a bit of AtE. I'll let Nacho sort that out and say what he thinks about Makiavel's self-defeatist attitude and/or paranoia about the 48 hour scum day-talk. I'm leaning scum

nacho says town

Vote: Samuel L. Jackson

, king of the scum.

[Fifty Ways]

gah why

[JKMatthews]

Shit guys, sorry. Weekend got way bigger than expected. My head's throbbing and I need to post in a bunch of games, but for now I'll
VOTE: Bert

More depth when I find time at work tomorrow (in 14ish hours), but generally he/she/it/they seem(s) pretty happy to sow seeds of doubt and vote pretty chaotically without committing to much.

Post 95 has 3 people as scum or scummy, Sam Jackson as null, then the next post has a Sam Jackson vote...

[Xegarus]

How so?

you're criticizing the quality of maki's play, not demonstrating how it exposes his alliance

That's kinda what i was doing. You can tell by how i didnt actually call him scum there.
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now cause i honestly don't have any experience with a day talk mechanic first hand and he does.

Post 95 has 3 people as scum or scummy, Sam Jackson as null, then the next post has a Sam Jackson vote...

Actually its post 93-94. I'd like to see what you have to add.
In 93 Bert states that he has Maki, Lucky and yourself as most likely scum with Samuel in null and the rest in town.
Nacho say's Maki is town and hence the next closest in line for scum pile is Samuel.

So Nacho, (assuming you were the one that said vote Samuel)

gah why

?
Why Samuel over Lucky and JK?

[Bertkerberos]

Shit guys, sorry. Weekend got way bigger than expected. My head's throbbing and I need to post in a bunch of games, but for now I'll
VOTE: Bert

More depth when I find time at work tomorrow (in 14ish hours), but generally he/she/it/they seem(s) pretty happy to sow seeds of doubt and vote pretty chaotically without committing to much.

Post 95 has 3 people as scum or scummy, Sam Jackson as null, then the next post has a Sam Jackson vote...

Need I remind you that we are two people, and 93 was Bert (hence my signature) while 94 was Nacho (hence the "nacho says town" comment)?

I'm mostly ignoring fifty because I don't like getting into a defensive posture, wasting my time answering those questions and not reading others.

Are you kidding me. That's a terrible answer. Come again?

Get in your defensive posture now, unless you want a vote plastered on you.

[Bertkerberos]

EBWOP: There is a difference between "I don't want to defend against a case that is utterly baseless and empty" and "I just don't want to get into a defensive posture." The latter is bad, you have to defend yourself.