Newbie 1492 - You're Next! (Game Over)

[reinoe]

[reinoe]

VOTE: .

Your vote will count this time, but for future reference please result back to Rule #5.

[reinoe]

V/LA until Friday.

Noted.

[reinoe]

I'm giving in to peer pressure and also I'm drunk.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[reinoe]

Such pressure

What do is your read on my drunken state?

[reinoe]

Not even trying to defend himself.

[reinoe]

time for bed

[reinoe]

UNVOTE: VOTE: reinoe\

This time it is seriously serious.

Unlike my old vote btw.

VOTE: Burning_Earth

The only person who was opposed to the lynch.

gg. that was easy. Now let me celebrate with a drink...

[reinoe]

Dude. I brought NM to L-1. Also, RVS. I'm opposed to RVS lynches

But continue being stupid, you are conftown.

From what I've seen, nothing bad has ever happened from RVS lynches.

You need to explain why you were opposed to a mafia being lynched. And you better type fast because we lynch quickly here.

[reinoe]

BTW, time for a massclaim...

I'm the town doctor.

[reinoe]

Your case is horrible.

I wanted to end RVS with a vote on you.

THAT MEANS I'M SCUM, OBVSCUM, YEAH OBVSCUM!

Reinoe, everyone is going to claim VT! You just assured your own death! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

So we're what...three posts into this back and forth? Wolfy's dying words to you were to state your case. Why aren't you? Honor Wolfy's last request and state your claim on me.

Otherwise you must explain why you wanted to stop the lynch of a mafia goon. Truth be told, it doesn't look good for you.

You thought the mafia goon was at L-1 when you switched, but he was actually at his 5th vote. Did you think I didn't notice that? Guys, this game is easy.

[reinoe]

haha.

WHY WHY DID YOU CLAIM WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY?

When do you plan on stating your case against me?

[reinoe]

UNVOTE: VOTE: reinoe\

This time it is seriously serious.

Unlike my old vote btw.

In case you don't remember what you said.

UNVOTE: VOTE: reinoe\

This time it is seriously serious.

Unlike my old vote btw.

Why? Where was the scumtell? Convince me and I'll jump on the wagon...

To the rest of my town friends look carefully at this exchange. We can have this game over with by this weekend. Hell, we can get this game over TONIGHT!!!

[reinoe]

YOU ARE CONFTOWN IDIOT! AS I HAVE SAID!

WHY DID YOU CLAIM WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY!

There's another mafia out there and you stink like scum.

[reinoe]

THAT JUST MEANS THE MAFIA CAN NK YOU NOW!

I WOULD NOT HAVE VOTED YOU ANYWAY!

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Actually, for my sanity, I'll start ignoring you.

I'm not worried 'cuz you're gonna get lynched today.

[reinoe]

I'd seriously be voting for you if you weren't the doctor. And the hammering vote on an RVS wagon on scum.

One minute I'm conf town and the next minute you'd be hammering me if...

Guys this game is easy.

[reinoe]

Also why post 64 is bad thanks, given the second bit is why I said you were conftown. I was just saying that your play is bad.

Also, why you are so convinced that I'm scum, given that it is page three.

You've called me an idiot multiple times. Then after realizing how scummy it looks you're trying to backtrack to saying my play is bad after eight posts of calling me an idiot? I didn't count. Remind me again, which one of us dropped the hammer on scum and which one of us tried to protect scum mafia?

Also why a scum would bring their buddy down to L-1 thanks.

Hey you weren't paying attention. You thought your scum buddy was at L-2 and not L-1. Revisionist history. Remember when you attempted to "unvote" and then vote for me?

Guys lynch Burning Earth. This game is easy.

This game should be over by Sunday.

[reinoe]

Also lol at scum flailing.

[reinoe]

UNVOTE: VOTE: reinoe\

This time it is seriously serious.

Unlike my old vote btw.

Explain this Burning_Earth.

[reinoe]

Lol. Nice random guesses for both teams

Reinoe and I are confirmed town btw, especially reinoe.

I know I'm confirmed town. I know I know this because I fearlessly claimed doctor. Is doctor part of the scum team? No? What was your claim again? Oh yeah, this is what you had to say...

Your case is horrible.

I wanted to end RVS with a vote on you.

THAT MEANS I'M SCUM, OBVSCUM, YEAH OBVSCUM!

Reinoe, everyone is going to claim VT! You just assured your own death! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Everyone is going to claim VT? I can't help but notice that you didn't.

There's no need to massclaim folks. Burning_Earth just got caught in his own lie.

LYNCH ALL LIARS!

[reinoe]

I WOULD NOT HAVE VOTED YOU ANYWAY!

I'd seriously be voting for you if you weren't the doctor...

Oh, well thank God I've claimed Doctor if it'll hold you at bay.

[reinoe]

Let me re-read. I'll get back to this.

Dude it's been 20 minutes and four pages. I'll assume that after you post Burning will be at L-1.

[reinoe]

Burning Earth is at L-1 now.

[reinoe]

Burning_Earth starring in...

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[reinoe]

Burning_Earth starring in...

[reinoe]

A visual metaphor for our good, soon to be lynched mafia scum...

[reinoe]

Some reading material for the scum...

[reinoe]

Oh Burning_Earth, you are so caught.

[reinoe]

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[reinoe]

Lol. Nice random guesses for both teams

Reinoe and I are confirmed town btw, especially reinoe.

We lost our tracker? A powerrole. How is that a nice guess? If you were town you'd say that it sucks but you didn't.


Here's how it works. Calling yourself town is slightly scummy. Calling yourself Confirmed town is scummy as hell. Who confirmed you?

Guys, even though we're only on page four, Burned_Earth has had billions and billions of scumslips.

[reinoe]

So have you, but you are the doc and the hammering vote.

If you were town you'd be doing some scumhunting. The closest you've come is borderline accusing me of being scum after you gave me Conftown status.

[reinoe]

Can everyone submit a completed game of where they were scum?

Also a game where they were town?

In the miraculous event that B.E. is just a town player who really horrible at the game it will be necessary to see what other players are like.

[reinoe]

About triple posting: Look at reinoe

That's killing time/mocking your scumminess. Kinda like a victory lap. But I stopped doing that when I realized there's a slim chance you might be town.

Classic newbscum jumping on a popular wagon.

And a mafia goon got lynched doing so. Literally every post you make has you looking worse.

Do some sort of scum hunting. If you're scum then put everyone out of our misery and self-hammer. If you're town and you self-hammer I'm reporting you for playing against your victory condition.

Oh by the way here's a fun fact about this game...

can all my replies in your game (newbie 1492) be in the form of images?

This is why I voted for wolfy using his avatar. Unfortunately...

I would prefer not, as it kind of constitutes as spamming, however it's not against the rules so you would not be punished for doing so to my understanding.

So this game could have been that much more epic

[reinoe]

Yes! This stupid wagon would never have formed!

MOD! LET HIM DO IT!

No scum hunting yet? Crying to the mod instead, eh?

[reinoe]

I fully admit to not wanting to vote a mafia.

But that is true of many people in many games.

Here's your problem B.E. Everyone knows that we all voted that Mafia Scum by accident. Your problem is that you've had like 20 posts to admit that. Instead you burst out of the gate claiming both yourself and myself OBTOWN and trying to take credit for putting the mafia goon at L1. But you didn't know that the mafia goon was at L-1. Instead you try to make it out as if you would put anyone at L-1 during RVS. You did it on accident.

When I hammered the goon, I took a gut read based on incredibly slim info (your OMGUS of each other)while drunk to drop the hammer knowing full well what the risks were. Show me a game with a link, where you hammered someone during RVS and you had a power role. Do that and I might start taking you seriously.

Instead all you've done is try to pretend what you did on accident was actually on purpose. And then you've had the audacity to call me an idiot for claiming town doctor. I'll explain the strategy to everyone after the game. Even though I'm still new to this it's clear that you're the one with a lot to learn.

Now if you're scum please just self hammer.

[reinoe]

Jesus just had a quick skim. This game is insane.

Is burning scum simply because of the last minute attempt to change vote or is there more too it?

Read Burning Earth's behavior after the lynch. Solidified in post 118.

[reinoe]

how is reinoe doc? Where is your proof?

I will explain after the game why I claimed Town Doctor.

[reinoe]

Unvote

I am bulletproof, getting a bit suspicious until you can explain it now, Reinoe.

Nope. But if I'm scum you're going to have to make the claim that I hammered a scum partner on day one.

Are you ready to make that claim?

[reinoe]

Watch me still not vote you reinoe, even though you are not the doctor.

No, not helping scum by self-hammering.

You're not scum hunting either.

[reinoe]

It is page five and I have one solid scum read.

Give me two and I'll accept you are scumhunting more than me.

I now have two reads too. Yourself and OkaPoka

Reinoe, you fell to peer pressure maybe to reverse psychology us? Anyways both Reinoe and Burning Earth are really suspicious.

So your theory is that I hammered my teammate on day one for peer pressure? Are you willing to get lynched for it?

Because that's the risk I was willing to take if it turned out not_mafia was actually not mafia.

[reinoe]

Why did you think NM was scum?

Your posts, 34 and 35. You're trying too hard to seem non-chalant.

Drunken intuition that I probably wouldn't have taken sober.

[reinoe]

I was reaction baiting.

It looked like you were trying too hard. I was drunk and saw an opportunity to take a great risk for great reward.

Sometimes fortune favors the bold. I saved this town two weeks of scum-hunting. And you, and to a lesser degree OkaPoka, both are looking like scum.

[reinoe]

Unvote

I am bulletproof, getting a bit suspicious until you can explain it now, Reinoe.

So OkaPoka. Assume you're telling the truth. Do you think the Mafia are ever going to shoot you at night? What was your strategic benefit to the town for making the claim about being bullet-proof town?

Now, let's say you're lying? By claiming bullet-proof as mafia you can attempt to discredit me. Furthermore if I call your bluff and actually admit my plan I would be benefiting the town not at all and giving mafia a megaton of information. Who benefits from this? Furthermore let's say you're trying to get me to counterclaim bulletproof. Now the mafia know who not to shoot at night and I've lost credibility as town cred? Who benefits?

Yeah, there is no town benefit for me telling you why I claimed Town Doctor.

VOTE: OkaPoka

[reinoe]

Lynch me and you will find who reinoe really is.

Vote: Reinoe

Wow, you may just be worse Burning_Earth. Make the case for why I voted for n_m. You're going to have to do a lot better than "reverse psychology" and "peer pressure".

[reinoe]

If you were truly doctor you wouldn't have claimed to be one, or the mafia to target you. I believe you are still scum.

Let's say I was 1-shot trying to draw the mafia bullet. STFU.

[reinoe]

So OkaPoka. What's the strategic benefit of YOU claiming 1-shot? Let's see your well reasoned tactical analysis from the town perspective for why you would claim 1-shot?

I've made my analysis for why a scum would do it. Let's see your analysis for why TOWN would do it.

[reinoe]

UNVOTE: VOTE: reinoe.

I agree with Oka.

And don't falseclaim doc, if you are town and vanilla.

Watch me still not vote you reinoe,

even though you are not the doctor.

No, not helping scum by self-hammering.

You and OkaPoka can't possibly be scum team. One of you is just a blathering idiot.

[reinoe]

It is the setup. Read it now please reinoe. Then facepalm, scum.

So quick question. How did I go from OBTown in your eyes to you believing someone who possibly ruined town strategy? And someone who could damn well be lying.

Jesus you're both fucking terrible.

[reinoe]

It is the setup. Read it now please reinoe. Then facepalm, scum.

There's a doctor in the setup. Jesus. Between the two of you it's a goddamn race to the bottom.

[reinoe]

your reaction in 135 was why I voted you.

So when you said you wouldn't vote me even if you thought I wasn't doctor you were lying correct? And please clarify why you believe one person but not the other? Really I don't know which of you is scum and which of you is just an idiot.

[reinoe]

You voted wolfy first, reinoe. It would make sense for wolfy to get suspicious about your actions, and investigate you. So it would make sense for you to take out wolfy before he can wreak havoc on you.

PLEASE EXPLAIN THE TACTICAL BENEFIT TO THE TOWN FOR ANYONE OPENLY CLAIMING 1-SHOT BULLETPROOF. I want your detailed analysis.

[reinoe]

You voted wolfy first, reinoe. It would make sense for wolfy to get suspicious about your actions, and investigate you. So it would make sense for you to take out wolfy before he can wreak havoc on you.

So you're saying I ditched a random vote in order to hammer my partner? That's your story and you're sticking to it?

[reinoe]

To lynch you, obviously because you are a liar.

Show me the evidence that you're 1-shot bulletproof.

[reinoe]

To lynch you, obviously because you are a liar.

this

Now reinoe, please explain why it is good to claim doctor?

Because another possible set-up is 1-shot bulletproof. If I draw the bullet I've saved a life. Explain why you said you wouldn't vote me even if you thought I wasn't doctor? And while you're doing that explain why you believe OkaPoka but not me despite neither of us having proof of our claims?

[reinoe]

are you willing to be lynched for lying? If so, lynch me.

I already took a risk by hammering n_m. Did you forget that? If I was wrong I'd have been lynched today.

And why would a 1-shot be chomping at the bit to get lynched, denying the town of a resource? Again, I'm yet to hear your tactical analysis of why it's to the town's benefit to reveal your one shot if you're actually town. I see lot's of benefit for MAFIA SCUM to pretend they're 1-shot though.

[reinoe]

are you willing to be lynched for lying? If so, lynch me.

If you're town, I'm willing to lynch you for being fucking stupid. If you're scum see ya' later.

[reinoe]

I started the train, in case you forgot.

"Starting the train" pales in comparison to dropping the hammer. Get that weak shit out of here.

Give me your tactical analysis of why revealing 1-shot bulletproof is good for the town. Yes, there really isn't any and that's why you're scum. Somehow you've lured Burning_Earth under your spell but like I said one of you is is the result of taking too many skinny dips in the gene pool and one of you is scum.

[reinoe]

You were drunk into peer pressure, you said not trying to defend yourself (yeah.., What a way to drop the hammer) and you had a picture of a guy with a hammer. That is a great drop the hammer. Totally.

Maybe you're confused. "dropping the hammer" is a reference to issuing the final vote so that someone gets lynch.

"picture of a guy with a hammer". Ok I need to step back and explain some things to you...

"The picture of a guy" That man is named "M.C. HAMMER"
The reference of the hammer, is based on "dropping the hammer". Dropping the hammer is an American English Colloquialism that became memetic after the popular 1990's song "STOP! HAMMER TIME".

It was all a visual pun on the fact that we should all stop because the hammer has been issued.

[reinoe]

You were drunk into peer pressure, you said not trying to defend yourself (yeah.., What a way to drop the hammer) and you had a picture of a guy with a hammer. That is a great drop the hammer. Totally.

For fucks sake, I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt that maybe you're just ignorant of strategy but I can't discount the fact that maybe you're scum making a fake claim. Give us the strategic analysis of why a 1-shot bulletproof would claim, and how that benefits the town.

EBWOP: the song is called Can't Touch This
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo

[reinoe]

I have said it over and over, you are scum so i ccd you with my belief.

So then your case of why I voted to lynch n_m is a cross between giving in to peer pressure and "I don't know".

And you didn't counter claim because I've claimed Town Doctor. Just because I gave "what if's" doesn't mean I renounced my claim.

[reinoe]

Actually you know what. I'm too pissed off right now. After going out for a walk here was my strategy...




I'm vanilla townie. Seeing as how I was practically confirmed town after the N_M lynch I decided to make a risky move. I lied. I am not town doctor. However I claimed doctor so that I could draw the bullet away from the real doctor or 1-shot. I have no idea which one we have. Better to lose a vanilla townie than a doctor. And if the mafia don't call my bluff, then I live another day.

There was no real analysis or discussion after the lynch so there was nothing to go on. The real doctor would never claim, but I was just pissing in the wind. Then Burning_Earth started acting scummy as hell and my alcoholic gut already proved correct once so fuck it. I wanted Burning_Earth lynched.

Then OkaPoka popped his head onto the scene and mucked everything up. And he claimed 1-shot. WTF? 1-SHOT is another position that should never claim. It's possible that he really is so ignorant as to believe I'm scum but he's a goddamn idiot if he does believe that. I'll say that 'till the end of time. OkaPoka regardless of newb status you're an idiot if you believe I'm scum.

If I'm lynched then fine, but for the love of god lynch OkaPoka then Burning_Earth in that order. If OkaPoka is town then he's of no use to any because of how dumb he is. If Burning_Earth and OkaPoka are both town then fuck them because they took an easily winnable game and dragged us to the brink.

Going on V/LA until this "DAY" ends because fuck both of those guys. If town loses we deserve it.

[reinoe]

EBWOP, also if we do have a doctor then the real doctor would protect me from mafia bullets.

[reinoe]

Unvote

Okay, only a real townie would accept his lies. Which brings me back to the starting block.

Vote Burning Earth

What was the benefit of you Counter Claiming 1-shot bullet proof? What happens if Burned Earth is revealed town. How did your counter Claim help town?

[reinoe]

I wanted to do what you were sort of doing, to make the mafia call my bluff and attack me. Also I was really suspicious of you and tried and hoped to lynch you, due to your deceitfulness only a scum would do.

But now you see that "deceitfulness" is something MOSTLY MAFIA WOULD DO. There are times when a town will lie.

What is your opinion of post 135 , 140, 154, and 158, and 165. What was your thought process as I repeatedly implied that I am willing to take a bullet to protect a powerrole?

Because Burned_Earth may be scummy as hell, but I really need to know what your thought process was and my vote is going to stay on you because your insistence on claiming 1-shot bullet proof.

[reinoe]

Answer this question separate from the others OkaPoka...

IS THE MAFIA GOING TO SHOOT YOU KNOWING THAT YOU ARE ONE SHOT BULLETPROOF?

Because as I'm reading through your posts after day 2 it's very clear you were not really listening to what I was saying. I repeatedly implied that there is a slim chance Burned_Earth may not be mafia. You clearly were not thinking about what was best for town in the event that it's true.


There's no good excuse I can think of for why you would repeatedly say "I don't know why you why you voted for n_m" during the day 1 lynch. You need to come up with some better reasons than "you gave in to peer pressure" because that was an obvious joke. I want you to better explain your vote on me. I want you to better explain

Because of your CC the mafia got a ton of information about our town and I need to be sure. B_E could just be a bad player. But your motivations look very scummy now because you ignored me trying to help you.

[reinoe]

Good point, OkaPoka. But I think that all will be made clear if BE is lynched. Then it narrows everything down. At least, in my opinion.

I agree with that, but lynching reinoe can reveal a lot too.

Vote: Reinoe

Well let's move things along then. Before I self-hammer some parting words...

OkaPoka, if you're actually town, you are the worst player on the forum. Hands down worst.

Burning Earth, if you're town, you're also incredibly terrible.




FUCK THIS TOWN AND I'D RATHER BE DEAD THAN CONTINUE LIVING ANOTHER DAY IN THIS SHIT HOLE WITH OkaPoka and Burning_Earth.

I PUT MY FUCKING LIFE ON THE LINE DAY ONE TO HAMMER SOMEONE DURING THE RVS. I WAS WILLING TO TAKE A GODDAMN BULLET TO PROTECT THIS TOWN WHEN I CLAIMED DOCTOR. THIS TOWN DOESN'T DESERVE WHAT I'VE DONE FOR IT. FUCK BOTH OF THOSE ASSHOLES.

WITH MY DYING WORDS I BEG THAT YOU LYNCH BURNING_EARTH AND OKAPOKA.

VOTE: reinoe

[reinoe]

He explained. He wanted to take a bullet, but obviously I wasn't able to figure that out with my noobiness. I wonder now why both of my Random Votes were all scum. Perhaps I am a psychic with mystical powers.

Counter claiming wasn't a horrible move on your part., I was just pissed about it. No biggie. I rage quit when you guys wanted to lynch me anyway. Don't worry about it O.P. Good luck in the future.

I'm surprised TSO didn't submit the kill to remove OKA's nk. If he did he would have pushed for a no lynch today so that he could kill the conftown tonight.


GGALL and sorry about being unpleasant when I got counter-claimed.