Micro 324: Bridge Mafia (D3, 6/9 alive)

[Malakittens]

UNVOTE: Jklash

Getting out of RVS isn't a scum or a town tell, imo, but town has been known to do it more commonly than scum, but it's really a null point for alignment purposes.

@Anti-hero:

Want to explain further other than scumbird is scum? You won't sell me on that lynch based on you just saying that.

@AA9:

What's with the quick chainsaw defense from you in regards to me? Lucky was really joking imo also he didn't even vote me so your argument for voting him is kinda invalid.

However, I have mixed feeling on your slot because your reaction to Egg rings town based off your old meta.

[Lucky2u]

you know... with mala being a huge benefit if town, or a huge threat if scum... why not just lynch her and clear that up early? Statistically... isn't it the smart move?

VOTE: Lucky
For the obvious reasnon,he wants mala out!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMGUS!!1!!!1!eleven!!

VOTE: Arcangel9

(that the reaction you wanted!)

trying too hard to endear yourself all the while awkwardly avoiding commenting on anything
you're scum and you don't know how to start a game as scum. it's OK, lucky. i'm the same way

Your almost right. I don't know how to start a game as town. Scum I am perfectly comfortable with and put alot of effort into. I'd point you to some completed games but that's alot of work so I'll let you do the research if you care enough.

I'm not commenting on anything because I don't feel like leading a case at the moment. I have some gut feelings but nothing really pinging yet. Trolling is a good way to see who the try hards are in the game atleast, and who is relaxed enough to sense the humor. In that way, I have a basis to start my reads.

[Antihero]

@Anti-hero:

Want to explain further other than scumbird is scum? You won't sell me on that lynch based on you just saying that.

i won't sell you on ... what?
what are you talking about?

[Malakittens]

The fact Jklash is scum.^

[Antihero]

nah, you said something about selling you on a

lynch

, which is a bizarre angle to take.

re: cardinal; committed the "hi!" first post scumtell, gut scum ping from post 29

[Malakittens]

Yes, you won't sell me on getting my vote to lynch Jklash if that's all you are going to provide. It's not a bizarre angle, but probably bizarre wording.

"Hi!" Is this scum-tell actually viable, or is it just something you use to hunt? Can you back it up?

[Antihero]

pet scumtell. from personal experience and gut, i feel like i see "hi!" or "hai!" or some other permutation of "hello" followed by an exclamation point from scum in the first post.
i don't know if you're aware of where my vote is, though...

._.

[Malakittens]

pet scumtell. from personal experience and gut, i feel like i see "hi!" or "hai!" or some other permutation of "hello" followed by an exclamation point from scum in the first post.
i don't know if you're aware of where my vote is, though...

._.

Eh, still not convinced.

I believe it's on Lucky. I was just pointing out when I was catching up after falling behind for Easter that you weren't going to win by vote over w/o explanations.

Anyways, you explained thank you.

[penguin_alien]

Vote Count 1.03:

With nine alive, it takes five to lynch!

RedCoyote (L-5):
Malakittens (L-5):
insanity018 (L-4): Wolfy
ArcAngel9 (L-3): Egg, Lucky2u
Wolfy (L-4): RedCoyote
Lucky2u (L-3): ArcAngel9, Antihero
Antihero (L-5):
Egg (L-4): jklash12
jklash12 (L-4): insanity018

Not voting: Malakittens

V/LA:

Deadline in (expired on 2014-05-02 09:41:55)

[insanity018]

you know... with mala being a huge benefit if town, or a huge threat if scum... why not just lynch her and clear that up early? Statistically... isn't it the smart move?

VOTE: Lucky
For the obvious reasnon,he wants mala out!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMGUS!!1!!!1!eleven!!

VOTE: Arcangel9

(that the reaction you wanted!)

I don't like this. Particularly the part in brackets. It seems either self-conscious (by trying to confirm that she reacted in the way Arc would expect) or trying to buddy with Arc.

VOTE: Lucky

Antihero, if you think that jklash is scum, why did you move your vote over to Lucky?

[Antihero]

i've explained this, please read

[insanity018]

Okay. So, you think both Lucky and jklash are scum? Or is it just that Lucky seems scummier than your gut pings for jklash?

[Wolfy]

...Trolling is a good way to see who the try hards are in the game atleast, and

who is relaxed enough to sense the humor

. In that way, I have a basis to start my reads.

(my bolding)

lucky's trolling was just humour to me (pity he can't spell).
i don't see the logic in scum reading this but both ArcAngel9 & antihero teamed up very quickly on this... maybe they're just better scum readers or maybe they're trying too hard.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: ArcAngel9
this makes more sense for me at the moment

[Antihero]

underlying (annoying and fallacious) assumption: scum will be scumhunting and town will want to fuck around

lucky can't have been here a year and still seriously believe that

[Egg]

Two things since my last post:
1) Mala's questioning of Antihero is probably the most awkward I've ever seen Mala. Not quite sure what to make of it. But I kinda feel like as scum she wouldn't question a player like Antihero. Mixed feelings there. Slight town lean I think.

2) Insanity's Lucky vote sucks.

Unvote, Vote Insanity

[RedCoyote]

Redcoyote, that same post had my eyebrows raised a little too, but Wolfy's next post wasn't bad.

*shrug*

I didn't have a problem with 24 either, or else I'd have mentioned it. But that doesn't excuse his 19. In this scenario, it makes no difference to me whether he voted Mala or not. I care about the way he worded that particular post.

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I'm leaning early town on Wolfy due to him wanting to get out of RVS. I also thought by 'evidence', he meant 'reasons' which again links to getting out of RVS.

I didn't interpret it that way. The way I saw it, he scrambled to defend himself, nothing more. I saw nothing that suggested he was "wanting to get out of RVS". He specifically said he was going to withhold his vote for an indeterminate amount of time so that he didn't prolong it, but so what? I'd expect anyone to do that.

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What a useless post 29 is, jklash.

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still here. the bird's still scum.

So what about me, Egg, insanity and Wolfy? Chopped liver?

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I agree that my giant if post shows emotion/paranoia RedCoyote - but why is it scummy?

It all boils down to the fact that scum are more concerned about how they appear to town; town are more concerned about finding scum.

Anything that reads as the former to me reads scummy, and anything that reads as the latter for me reads townie.

This is an okay response. Still happy with my vote though.

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Lol what a clown trying to rile up the newbies.

That's a pretty strong statement, Egg. Or are you being sarcastic?

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LOL
You should have let lucky react to it. Huh!!!!

<3 <3 <3

AA is the best.

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trying too hard to endear yourself all the while awkwardly avoiding commenting on anything
you're scum and you don't know how to start a game as scum. it's OK, lucky. i'm the same way

This is a reasonable point.

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Lucky was really joking imo also he didn't even vote me so your argument for voting him is kinda invalid.

But did you see Lucky's vote?

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nah, you said something about selling you on a

lynch

, which is a bizarre angle to take.

You said, and I quote, "the bird's still scum". What "angle" did you expect her to take from that? That you read him as obvtown?

i've explained this, please read

Don't get snippy with insanity because you're being unclear. You're the one trying to play the Staeg card here. No one is a mind reader.

underlying (annoying and fallacious) assumption: scum will be scumhunting and town will want to fuck around

Did he assume every player would play like this or just him?

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Mala's questioning of Antihero is probably the most awkward I've ever seen Mala. Not quite sure what to make of it. But I kinda feel like as scum she wouldn't question a player like Antihero. Mixed feelings there. Slight town lean I think.

Your last sentence actually took me aback. I thought you were fixing to say that you were leaning scum on Mala. I like both of these points though. I agree with you on both accounts.

[RedCoyote]

Also... Happy Birthday, Mod!

Thanks!

[Antihero]

Don't get snippy with insanity because you're being unclear. You're the one trying to play the Staeg card here. No one is a mind reader.

well, insanity followed up with this:

Or is it just that Lucky seems scummier than your gut pings for jklash?

so i couldn't have been that unclear. as to degrees of scum reading, i'm not getting sucked into the hair-splitting game there, so i guess you can go ahead and keep being the white knight, rc.

Did he assume every player would play like this or just him?

well, he said that it's what he "based his reads off of" or something to that effect, so i'm assuming the former.

[Antihero]

Mala's questioning of Antihero is probably the most awkward I've ever seen Mala. Not quite sure what to make of it. But I kinda feel like as scum she wouldn't question a player like Antihero. Mixed feelings there. Slight town lean I think.

Your last sentence actually took me aback. I thought you were fixing to say that you were leaning scum on Mala. I like both of these points though. I agree with you on both accounts.

wait a second... i thought you just finished telling me that mala's questioning was all good in the neighborhood and

i'm

the one who's being unclear and huffing the dipshit glue.

as for egg's sentence, i personally can't really follow it, but i don't know what "a player like antihero" means.

[Egg]

Redcoyote, nah I'm pretty sure that's what Lucky was trying to do. Looked like an "lolreactions" post. And on Mala, like I said mixed feelings. The slight town read is because Mala as scum doesn't seem the type to ruffle feathers with someone like Antihero.

Preview edit: ummm. Outspoken and influential maybe? I don't really know how else to describe it.

[RedCoyote]

Antihero is not outspoken and influential. He is, in fact, very mean and always distrusts me even though I am an angel that would never do anything to harm him. <3

[Egg]

I wouldn't use the word "mean", but even if I would, that would make the point I'm trying to make.

[penguin_alien]

Vote Count 1.04:

With nine alive, it takes five to lynch!

RedCoyote (L-5):
Malakittens (L-5):
insanity018 (L-4): Egg
ArcAngel9 (L-3): Lucky2u, Wolfy
Wolfy (L-4): RedCoyote
Lucky2u (L-2): ArcAngel9, Antihero, insanity018
Antihero (L-5):
Egg (L-4): jklash12
jklash12 (L-5):

Not voting: Malakittens

V/LA:

Deadline in (expired on 2014-05-02 09:41:55)

[ArcAngel9]

UNVOTE: Jklash

Getting out of RVS isn't a scum or a town tell, imo, but town has been known to do it more commonly than scum, but it's really a null point for alignment purposes.

@Anti-hero:

Want to explain further other than scumbird is scum? You won't sell me on that lynch based on you just saying that.

@AA9:

What's with the quick chainsaw defense from you in regards to me? Lucky was really joking imo also he didn't even vote me so your argument for voting him is kinda invalid.

However, I have mixed feeling on your slot because your reaction to Egg rings town based off your old meta.

What?? You realize that it was happening on Page 1 or 2. And you realize think i was serious about him voting you? I was testing him in my own fashion knowing he was trolling pretty much. Someone have to push game forward. What do i have on page1 or page2 other troll post to pick it up? I still don't understand why do you think I was taking your side. I am not actually. Honestly, I still dont have any strong reads yet either on town or scum. You know my playstyle well. If I have strong reads, I scream about them!!!!

...Trolling is a good way to see who the try hards are in the game atleast, and

who is relaxed enough to sense the humor

. In that way, I have a basis to start my reads.

(my bolding)

lucky's trolling was just humour to me (pity he can't spell).
i don't see the logic in scum reading this but both ArcAngel9 & antihero teamed up very quickly on this... maybe they're just better scum readers or maybe they're trying too hard.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: ArcAngel9
this makes more sense for me at the moment

What the hell are you talking about? I was reaction testing from lucky's post which i have explained already. So if Anti back's me up means that makes me scum? so what about Anti? Are you suppose to be voting Anti becuz he backed me up and my vote on lucky came first? Why me?

Your vote on me just looks like random shit reason to vote. I am leaning scum

VOTE: Wolfy

[Egg]

Wolfy's Arc vote actually does look pretty bad.

Also, if it's a town player who froze my vote, you should probably claim it or I'm assuming it was scum. The exception is if it has another power with it.

Fixed