Micro 330: Masons & Mafia - Day 1

[Wisdom]

bert you know its wise
remember how you died in masons and mafia when you were scum?

[Malakittens]

1.02

With Seven Alive it takes 4 to lynch

Voting:

*HiddenInTheDark - Perpetual Nonsense [1]
*Crazy - Xayzeck [1]
*Xayzeck -
*tman2nd - Wisdom [1]
*Finglove -
*Perpetual Nonsense -
*Wisdom - Crazy [1]

Not Voting:

HiddenInTheDark, tman2nd, Finglove [3]

Day 1 ends

(expired on 2014-05-07 22:31:00)

[tman2nd]

I don't really have any scum reads at this point. Although, I would like to know why I'm being voted/FOSed. I do have some townreads. Perpetual Nonsense seems town based on the gambit they tried to pull. I would like them to get more serious now, though. Also, while I disagree with Crazy on how beneficial that wifom stuff can be, he comes off as town in the way he's reacted to things.

VOTE: Finglove You haven't said much. Care to chip in?

[Wisdom]

^plz plz lets wagon this

[tman2nd]

Could someone explain why I'm being chosen to be wagoned?

[Perpetual Nonsense]

Well, he could be half-fake claiming and be a mason with somebody else. Just wondering why Crazy sounded so certain.

Sigh. How can you not see it?

[Perpetual Nonsense]

If scum holds off shooting, this game will be really scumsided.

In my past experience, scum were too trigger-happy within 2:7 scenarios.

This is like a classic 7p newbie game once you take away scum's shots

Basically, scum strategy could be to get a mislynch today, even with a quickhammer. Then, have that quickhammerer send a shot in immediate at the onset of Day 2.

[Wisdom]

Basically let's wagon tman and watch him suiciding

[Wisdom]

I guess I'll just ignore Nonsense's pointless WIFOMy stuff, then. It's dumb and it's anti-town IMO

How is it anti-town? Which part of "It WIFOMs the scum who are masonhunting" didn't you get? The scum don't know if Perpertual is Mason and bluffing or VT and fake-claiming so they don't know whether to shoot or not.

[Wisdom]

The scum are among {tman, Finglove, Crazy} btw. Hidden, Perpetual and Xay are town.

[Finglove]

Sorry, had a crazy few days. I'm townreading nonsense because his analysis of the game set-up is good.

VOTE: Wisdom because wagons for the sake of wagons looks pretty dangerous to me. And you're really prepared to town-read half the game at this point?

[Wisdom]

mhm, I'm pretty quick with getting townreads
Also wagons are the best thing to do in this setup, because scum panic and shoot themselves.

[Finglove]

Wagons on scum yes. Wagons on town, no. I don't get why the shoot/suicide mechanic suggests running up wagons fast rather than slow, unless you're worried the masons will give themselves away?

[Wisdom]

So you think tman is town? Why?

[Finglove]

In fact, given scum have more information and more decisions, aren't they more likely to trip up (than the masons) if we give them time to? Rather than prematurely rushing to a town lynch?

[Wisdom]

I don't get why the shoot/suicide mechanic suggests running up wagons fast rather than slow, unless you're worried the masons will give themselves away?

The faster things happen the more scum panic

[Wisdom]

In fact, given scum have more information and more decisions, aren't they more likely to trip up (than the masons) if we give them time to? Rather than prematurely rushing to a town lynch?

Scum don't have any information other than who their partner is. Same goes for Masons.
Also wagon does not equal lynch.

[Finglove]

I don't have much of a read on him, and all else being equal he's more likely town than scum. I'll wagon him if I see a decent reason to.

The faster they panic...and quick hammer the town lynch? Seems to me, a fast wagon on scum might work if they panic, and a fast wagon on town could lose us the game.

PEDIT: Scum know who is town and who is scum which is > info than knowing that two players are masons.

[Xayzeck]

VOTE: tman

I still like Crazy more though

[Wisdom]

Why would they quickhammer? Wouldn't that just get them lynched afterwards?

And why is tman more likely town?

[Finglove]

Null read plus 2:4 ratio = more likely town.

[Wisdom]

That makes zero sense, it's not like he hasn't posted

[Perpetual Nonsense]

oh fogbuckets this is nightless

!

sorry i didnt live enough in the prior game (died on 1st page of wis's game) to know that

[Wisdom]

Also explain to me why you expect scum to claim scum by quickhammering

[Finglove]

And I'd be worried about a quickhammer and then shooting (twice if possible).

PEDIT: Before he's posted, he's more likely town than not. His posts might move that in one direction or another. At the moment, they haven't moved it much, if at all.