In post 371, LoudmouthLee wrote:
[*]UT has been on 3 of the major bandwagons, the most out of any player (tied with StD)
Unvote, Vote: Zorblag
I'm number 1!
In post 374, LoudmouthLee wrote:
If you would call the MafiaSSK wagon the VI wagon, the player who was on the most wagons AND the VI wagon was StD. I'm still okay with EITHER of them.
It's easy to ignore the fact I was on MafiaSSK before it was wagon-worthy if you ignore the fact that I was on MafiaSSK before it was wagon worthy. If you want to get technical, I was the second vote, but since I have not yet received that real magic mail-order crystal ball I purchased (6 easy payments of $19.95!) it would be remiss to suggest that I was oppurtunistic. But since you seem to ignore the fact that I was on MafiaSSK before it was wagon-worthy, I don't know why I didn't just save my wrists the hundred or so words closer they now are to metacarpal tunnel syndrome.
I do actually agree with you that the Nat wagon was an easy way to pile on votes, but I also think chamber's right and if the scum were expecting a lynch from that they're fooling themselves.
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Since he was observing the game as town, all he has to do is dump his suspicions and it looks like he's made a big contribution. If he's scum, it takes 5 minutes to edit if he's nailed his scum partners, and that's even if he wants to. He certainly doesn't have to.
Since he included his replacee in his assessment, it is clear to me he made these notes with a town mindset (before he replaced). Now he has a pro-town artifact that may or may not be damning to scum.
His barf post, while an interesting read, does little to tell us about his alignment. I suppose if he were scum he could have not posted it, but I don't really see a reason not to.
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In post 327, Yosarian2 wrote:Not really. When someone has a meta of making short, declarative statements about who is town or scum without explaining, it can actually make them easier to read; you just have to look at the timing of the statements and figure out why they're making them at those moments and what they're trying to do. The key is to not try to look at the posts in isolation; it's to look at them in context.
Since scum know who the town are, doesn't it make it easier to say XXXXX is town when you're scum?
If we're just going to get into a theory-based argument where we end up having a differing of opinions I'm willing to shut up about this, but see my above comment about DGB.
In post 370, Shanba wrote:
I find myself disagreeing with much of what Yos says this game. This is a little upsetting.
I do too. This reminds me of something I was stewing on before the Great Tiger Attack of 2014...
In post 242, Yosarian2 wrote:I'm getting some weird vibes off of Undo's posting so far this game. Kind of wishy-washy. Kisses up to everyone in first post, votes DGB "as homage". ? Says MafiaSSK's post #45 " doesn't look right", but then hedges that read, and doesn't vote. Takes off random vote on DGB without voting anyone else. Then later votes SSK.
fos:Undo
Posting and voting pattern so far looks overly cautious.
While I completely agree with the last sentence, the more I read into the argument between them, the less I like it.
In post 255, Yosarian2 wrote:
In general, your play thus far looked overly cautious for day 1, like you were trying extra hard to stay on good terms with everyone. If there's any point at all to random voting, it's to try to create pressure or get something moving early in the game, but you placed your random vote in such a way as to make sure it didn't create any pressure, and the you dropped it without explaining why and without voting anyone else, at a time when no one else was voting DGB.
Dropping a random vote without explaining why is suspicious? This entire section seems like a stretch.
In post 258, undo wrote:
Yosarian2 wrote:You seemed to imply that you thought SSK was suspicious, but would rather vote for nobody then vote for him
You are referring to my post
115, where I
never
implied I thought SSK was suspicious. When I said "it didn't look right to me", I was saying I didn't agree with his theory -- his theory didn't look right to me -- but that defending one controversial theory about RVS was not enough for me to find him scummy.
Point goes to undo.
Yosarian2 wrote:you then voted for him eventually, but you seemed hesitant to do so, and joined the wagon fairly late. (In fact, i would say that SSK actually looked less scummy when you voted him then he did when you declined to do so)
In post 203, undo wrote:
Just to make it clear, in your view, CES saying "I agree with CTD that chamber's alignment is fairly obvious at this point" right after CTD's posts (and even though CTD didn't make it clear he thought chamber was obvscum) is a
discreet way
of showing agreement to a scum partner.
I'm not sure what to think about MafiaSSK, but I think the whole magic CTD-CES connection made him look worse.
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I also really don't like anything about this:
In post 297, petroleumjelly wrote:
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In post 245, chamber wrote:Why did you feel the need to telegraph a potential vote change?
I originally had switched my vote while writing my post, but as I pared it down I downgraded to a FoS. Albert B. Rampage's post was so outrageously out of place that I could see myself just switching my vote the next morning even without more content being added.
Given Albert B. Rampage was apparently just quoting something, the FoS is retracted.
I don't follow why this wasn't just a vote, considering with nothing new changing you were willing to vote. If you wanted to keep pressure on MafiaSSK, why would you switch (with no new content), and if you didn't, why wouldn't you?
I'll admit it was a silly thing for ABR to say. But it was said in a rapidfire of weird posts (that I didn't get the reference to either). If you think he was faking breadcrumbing a power role, for instance, it seems like a weird way to go about it, especially when there was only a little pressure his way.
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The way I see it, bandwagoning is the only way we can lynch scum. With 12 votes to lynch, I need to agree with 11 other people. With several scum out there, if I elect to vote for people I think are more likely to be scum, that gives me, in my opinion, a better chance of lynching the scum.
I plan on jumping on bandwagons this game, not on random people, but on people I find suspicious.
So here's my list of people as of this moment.
Would vote
4) Untrod Tripod
6) DrippingGoofball
8) undo
11) Petroleumjelly
14) LoudmouthLee
20) Yosarian2
21) Seol
Might vote
2) Porochaz
3) CrashtextDummie
5) MrBuddyLee
12) Cogito Ergo Sum
13) MafiaSSK
16) Green Crayons
15) Albert B. Rampage
17) Zorblag (replacing Natirasha, who replaced farside22)
22) Tigris
Won't vote
1) Chamber
7) Shanba
9) Sotty7
10) Glork
18) VitaminR
Vote: PJ
If later in the day we all decide to lynch LML, please, please, please don't be surprised if I jump on that wagon hardcore.