Open 29 - C9+2 (~GAME OVER~) before 470

[DeliciousGoldfish]

Lateralus... Why the quantity of random voting and the "random" voting of players who have already been voted for?

Scum-city my dear.

unvote
vote lateralus

[somestrangeflea]

[quote="Honary Hitchhiker]Hmm he was quick to make the first vote if it was by number odds. So im going to have to

Vote:somestrangeflea

[/quote]

Let me get this straight. You're voting me because I got here first?

FoS: Honary Hitchhiker

"]

vote: lateralus

you put a 3rd vote on someone out of randomness? very suspicious

I agree.

Vote: Lateralus

[somestrangeflea]

EDWOP:

Hmm he was quick to make the first vote if it was by number odds. So im going to have to

Vote:somestrangeflea

Let me get this straight. You're voting me because I got here first?

FoS: Honary Hitchhiker

vote: lateralus

you put a 3rd vote on someone out of randomness? very suspicious

I agree.

Vote: Lateralus

Fixed!

[AmeliaLi]

Ummm.... Hmm! You guys need to remember five votes arent a lot and its easy to put someone at 2 away....

As for right now I have no vote.

[Crub]

2 away isn't such a big thing I just think it's strange to bandwagon someone to 3 'for randomness'. I don't know I guess it just seemed a bit opportunistic to me?

[somestrangeflea]

Ironically, Lateralus has been bandwagoned to three,

for

bandwagoning to 3.

And let's face it, everyone loves irony.

[AmeliaLi]

Ironically, Lateralus has been bandwagoned to three,

for

bandwagoning to 3.

And let's face it, everyone loves irony.

Wooooowww... I guess the irony is a nice refreshment.

[DeliciousGoldfish]

Haha... That's amazing.

But to step away from irony I will

unvote somestrangeflea

for now.

That was fun while it lasted though!

[Crub]

Haha... That's amazing.

But to step away from irony I will

unvote somestrangeflea

for now.

That was fun while it lasted though!

Haha what's amazing is that you weren't voting for ssf

[Mert]

Votecount

Lateralus

(2):

Crub, Somestrangeflea

Somestrangeflea

(2):

YogurtBandit, Honary Hitchhiker

DeliciousGoldfish

(1):

Ripley

YogurtBandit

(1):

Lateralus

Not Voting

(3):

AmeliaLi, DeliciousGoldfish, Rishi

Five votes will do it to it.

[DeliciousGoldfish]

Haha... oh yeah! I'd changed my vote to Lateralus huh... I'm playing WAAAAAAAAY too many games at once than is good for a person!!!

[somestrangeflea]

DG's gone in way over his head! I swear, if you start lurking...

[DeliciousGoldfish]

oh I won't be lurking. I'm way too addicted to lurk and not say anything... lol

[Ripley]

Unvote: Vote Honary Hitchhiker

For his post 21 that added a quick third vote to somestrangeflea. It's not so much the third vote as the accompanying explanation. If it's serious, it's a bizarre reason and if he thought it was valid, HH should surely have thought it was valid at the time he made his first post (where he ignored somestrangeflea's post and voted for me). Or maybe it's one of those posts where the writer subsequently says "It was obviously a joke" which has a way of diffusing criticism since people tend to be reluctant to be seen to lack a sense of humor.

[Crub]

Unvote: Vote Honary Hitchhiker

For his post 21 that added a quick third vote o somestrangeflea. It's not so much the third vote as the accompanying explanation. If it's serious, it's a bizarre reason and if he thought it was valid, HH should surely have thought it was valid at the time he made his first post (where he ignored somestrangeflea's post and voted for me). Or maybe it's one of those posts where the writer subsequently says "It was obviously a joke" which has a way of diffusing criticism since people tend to be reluctant to be seen to lack a sense of humor.

I'm confused.
Both lateralus and HH put people to L-2 for strange reasons. And then both of them played the "trying to generate conversation" card. The fact that HH just quoted lateralus (post 24) and couldn't come up with his own reason seems more scummy to me.

unvote: lateralus, vote: HH

[Rishi]

I think we need to slow down a bit. A very fast lynch, without discussion, tends to benefit the Mafia, I think. There's a greater chance of getting it wrong.

Even with the two extra pro-town players in this setup, we can only lynch incorrectly twice. On the third mis-lynch, the town loses.

[DeliciousGoldfish]

Generating conversation is the name of the game early on... but it's difficult to do without causing ruckus as well as without looking completely scummy as I am learning in this online world of mafia

But I agree with Rishi. We don't have a deadline that I am aware of so we can take the time, get people talking, defending, pointing fingers... Then make a more educated lynch. Not to say that there haven't been a couple of "scummy" moves by lateralus, HH, and ssf. But for now, they're just random vote moves, and conversation starters.

And I believe we have more than 2 mis-lynches. It is 2 mis-lynches in the regular C9 setup so... With two more townies and possible doctors saving and investigators investigating... We'll have to see though.

One thing, however, I have noticed (and this could just be the one lame game I just replaced out of) if day one takes too long, players get disinterested, upset, distracted, then they replace out making it more difficult to remember who's who... The game just gets boring. Let's not get to page 12 without ending day one?

[Ripley]

And I believe we have more than 2 mis-lynches. It is 2 mis-lynches in the regular C9 setup so... With two more townies and possible doctors saving and investigators investigating... We'll have to see though.

In a regular C9, even with a doc save you only get

one

mislynch. The second mislynch, together with two nightkills, reduces the players to 2 Mafia, 1 town on Day 3 without a doc save. With a doc save there's 2 Mafia, 2 town, but that's also a scum win. It takes two doc saves to buy another day (though one doc save buys you the no-lynch option). So in this setup we only get 2 mislynches, basically. That would take us to 2 Mafia, 3 town on Day 3.

One thing, however, I have noticed (and this could just be the one lame game I just replaced out of) if day one takes too long, players get disinterested, upset, distracted, then they replace out making it more difficult to remember who's who... The game just gets boring. Let's not get to page 12 without ending day one?

This is all very true. I haven't played a game for ages that didn't have multiple dropouts, and I'm convinced the lack of continuity is a massive benefit to scum. But it's really difficult finding a pace that suits everyone. Go too slow, people drop out because they're bored. Go too fast, the faster players start calling out the slower ones for lurking, and then they drop out because they can't keep up. It's great if everybody's active - the only real downside is that you very soon amass 15 or 20 pages. Somebody will inevitably drop out, and all of a sudden you've got a replacement player who has to wade through all that. And rereading becomes a chore, even for the established players. Probably a Day 1 of about 8-10 well-argued pages with a high level of participation from everyone would be perfect.

[DeliciousGoldfish]

The 8-10 "well-argued" pages would be great! If they're well-argued though... haha

But thanks for clearing that up for me! I've only played one other C-9 game before and this one is modified so I wasn't sure about the different ways it could play out.

Either way, we need a lynch on day one... so no voting no lynch and if there's a deadline let's hope we get enough votes to get the bad guy!

[Crub]

So I guess all we need now is something to argue about for 6-8 pages?

[DeliciousGoldfish]

Religion? Politics? lol...

Maybe go back to random voting and see if someone gets scared?

[Lateralus]

unvote:YB

I like yogurt...

[Rishi]

Personally, I'd like to hear from Lateralus and Honorary Hitchhiker why they both put the third vote on someone so early. They gave rather flimsy excuses so far.

[DeliciousGoldfish]

Agreed... Especially since they gave the same excuses. One vote, maybe even two votes is random conversation starter, but a third vote on someone is just odd...

[Lateralus]

Flimsy excuse? its the first round usually the first lynch as a random vote is it not?