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Post Post #1350 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:53 am

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Having slept on it/reset, I agree that Citrus is very likely town.

ZZZX needs a prod.
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Post Post #1351 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:53 am

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Top.
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Post Post #1352 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:53 am

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Damn it.
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Post Post #1353 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:56 am

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Rubicon, do you not have an opinion on interactions between Mist and I?
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Post Post #1354 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:01 am

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In post 1343, hiplop wrote:
I voted her because of what I said. I wanted to put pressure on her. Wasn't thinking about the bomb. And honestly because I posted that immediately after you claimed and I was scared you did something very stupid.

You thought i was scum literally a post before that, remember? Do you know my alignment?
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Post Post #1355 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:02 am

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prodge I had no net and it will come back in 3 days

Xpect more from me soon.
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Post Post #1356 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:03 am

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In post 1342, Unsight wrote:
In post 1336, Rubicon wrote:Grib and Atum are town based on their play


Examples?

They are both meta reads. I'll try to put it into words, give me a few minutes.
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Post Post #1357 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:08 am

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[quote="ZZZX"All I can say is that I forgot about this game but I have no net for 24hrs. I'll catch up so on[/quote]
If he's scum, I wonder if he even talked to his scumbuddies N1?? Lol
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Post Post #1358 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:13 am

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In post 1353, Stigmata wrote:Rubicon, do you not have an opinion on interactions between Mist and I?

At first glance, she was buddying up to you. But she also completely ignored your posts directed at her. I don't think it's clearly scum-town or scum-scum so I am trying to read you in other ways.
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Post Post #1359 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:25 am

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In post 1236, Stigmata wrote:Err sorry, I meant AYAW3, forgot the name.
fontisian wrote:I'm too angry to deal with anything mafia at this point. Riley can either replace or you guys can lynch me. I don't give a fuck.

fontisian wrote:It's not related to this game. Don't worry about it.

I don't want to replace out for a game that ends in a max of three days anyway. Ugh. If Riley has a replacement lined up, he should have them replace me. If not, I'll stay.

Sorry for the freak out.


Part of the reason she won that one is because people didn't think she'd play that way as scum. Unsurprisingly she flipped town in the game she was actually that frustrated over. Did none of that make you think twice?

So Stigmata is talking about a short game that was run off-site around the time when fontisian claimed Priest. I think that the posts by fontisian quoted above probably influenced Grib's read on her here -- made him think the anger she was showing was genuine. With that in mind, his defense of her looks town.

I also think that when he is scum in games with a lot of town players who know him (me, fontisian, Stigmata, Citrus, others), he essentially resigns himself to being caught. He continues playing and making the best of it, but most of the energy is gone, he doesn't bother with much activity or pretending to sort the other players. This was true in another off-site game played recently, in which fontisian put some light pressure on him and he straight up claimed scum.

In this game, he's been laid back and projecting an attitude of town confidence, apparently unconcerned with people attacking him, making posts like and , and asking questions. Poking, putting other players on the defensive.
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Post Post #1360 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 3:17 pm

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In post 1346, Unsight wrote:
In post 1343, hiplop wrote:Scum (+grib) gotta be in Stig/ZZZX/ABR/Grib


You are now a Day Vig with 1 bullet. Which of those 4 do you shoot and why?


i want to extend this to everyone, outside of mist who would you shoot and why?

name 3 people.
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Post Post #1361 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 3:19 pm

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citrus/honey wait for everyone else to answer this. i want to see where people overlap on who to shoot and why.
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Post Post #1362 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:06 pm

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(1) ZZZX - hard to read, esp. since he's been completely ignoring this game in favor of other games, but. Early buddying of Honey Bee (and the other player he's played w before, Rubicon) as having 'totally valid logic' despite him totally disagreeing w the logic of her attack of him. OMGUS on Grib is pretty hypocritical and lame. Lots of empty posts and prod dodges. Stance on the fonti-hiplop claims situation is p pro-scum ("one of them has to be scum! let's line up their lynches!" Also, I'm sheeping fontisian.
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Post Post #1363 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:50 pm

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Ika, I would shoot you! Town doesn't need a priest :O
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Post Post #1364 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:06 pm

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You're much more tolerable when you're confirmed scum, js

(2) ABR - Steps above ZZZX b/c his posts are really low content but somehow seem candid, he's gotten more attention than ZZZX, and I kinda like that he didn't figure out overnight that the Gravedigger flips alignment and role/still seems sure that it's role-only. However, he..basically fits as scum with any combination of people? Except Grib who I really don't think is scum. Potential distancing with Mist, seems to still just be wagoning whoever even though we're as many pages in as we are, e.g. Atum (which may seem hypocritical since I technically joined that wagon but I didn't know there were other votes on him at the time b/c <technical difficulties>, but etc.) Liable to change once he's back from VLA and shit.

(3) hiplop - not w/ ZZZX tho, but what the hell has he been doing Today and how does he not remember suspecting Honey Bee. Also that thing I've already mentioned in 2 posts.

If I had multiple shots and one hit scum I'd be liable to get all paranoid about my townreads tho. But these 3 are vigbait.

Also I'm about to be mostly internetless until September 5th(?) so yay!! Break from my walls!

Also I look forward to later Days when we get to use more role info for alignment differentiation cuz bleeeh.
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Post Post #1365 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:19 pm

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In post 1363, Mist7676 wrote:Ika, I would shoot you! Town doesn't need a priest :O


dont worry even though you are scum we still love you.

if we find your friends we can kill them like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp_l5ntikaU

i wish i knew how to make it a vid and not a link, but still this is how we will kill them
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Post Post #1366 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:45 pm

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Post Post #1367 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:37 pm

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In post 1360, ika wrote:
In post 1346, Unsight wrote:
In post 1343, hiplop wrote:Scum (+grib) gotta be in Stig/ZZZX/ABR/Grib


You are now a Day Vig with 1 bullet. Which of those 4 do you shoot and why?


i want to extend this to everyone, outside of mist who would you shoot and why?

name 3 people.

Mist interactions still coming, but I'm trying to keep up.

I'd shoot Unsight, Triple-Z, and ABR. I think.
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Post Post #1368 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:49 am

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In post 1344, hiplop wrote:sorry I meant scum (+Mist)

@Rubicon

In post 1346, Unsight wrote:
In post 1343, hiplop wrote:Scum (+grib) gotta be in Stig/ZZZX/ABR/Grib


You are now a Day Vig with 1 bullet. Which of those 4 do you shoot and why?



hmmm...well assuming that you would still get his card, stigmata. I think it would give us the most information.

You thought i was scum literally a post before that, remember? Do you know my alignment?


my god. What is so difficult about this? I thought you were scum, but i wanted to vote the confscum. Sorry I didn't anticipate your death being helpful.
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Post Post #1369 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:11 am

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In post 1368, hiplop wrote:
You thought i was scum literally a post before that, remember? Do you know my alignment?


my god. What is so difficult about this? I thought you were scum, but i wanted to vote the confscum. Sorry I didn't anticipate your death being helpful.

No. My point is that your reaction to my claim looks like someone reacting to an early town claim, not a reaction to a claim by someone who you thought was scum.
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Post Post #1370 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:25 am

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In post 1360, ika wrote:
In post 1346, Unsight wrote:
In post 1343, hiplop wrote:Scum (+grib) gotta be in Stig/ZZZX/ABR/Grib


You are now a Day Vig with 1 bullet. Which of those 4 do you shoot and why?


i want to extend this to everyone, outside of mist who would you shoot and why?

name 3 people.


ABR then ABR a second time for good measure. Then Hiplop and maybe Stigmata after.

ABR's play is scum at worst, anti-town at best. In the past month he hasn't done an ounce of scum hunting. He's just going to coast for as long as we let him.

If you ISO Hiplop and look for ABR, you'll notice Hiplop's association with ABR in every or almost every instance is "Yeah, I don't like him... but let's focus on someone else." If ABR flips scum then Hiplop needs to die. If ABR flips town then I might skip Hiplop and go onto Stigmata.

In light of Demon Trick and Mist immediately boarding the Atum wagon, I don't really like either of Stigmata's scum reads on Rubicon or Atum. Boarding the Atum wagon that already had 3 votes without giving reasons isn't cool either.
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Post Post #1371 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:40 am

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Why would my death be especially informative?

Unsight wrote:In light of Demon Trick and Mist immediately boarding the Atum wagon, I don't really like either of Stigmata's scum reads on Rubicon or Atum. Boarding the Atum wagon that already had 3 votes without giving reasons isn't cool either.

I'm scumreading Rubicon? News to me. Also, if you actually were reading my posts you'd know that (1) I didn't know that Atum had other votes on him (voting him was a decision I mostly made overNight.) I guess I can't prove this, but I completely missed ika's claim at the time and I had misread and thought Honey Bee was claiming a diff role than DOB and thought she was dumb for asking to be lynched, (2) why I voted him.
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Post Post #1372 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:58 am

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In post 1371, Stigmata wrote:Why would my death be especially informative?

Unsight wrote:In light of Demon Trick and Mist immediately boarding the Atum wagon, I don't really like either of Stigmata's scum reads on Rubicon or Atum. Boarding the Atum wagon that already had 3 votes without giving reasons isn't cool either.

I'm scumreading Rubicon? News to me. Also, if you actually were reading my posts you'd know that (1) I didn't know that Atum had other votes on him (voting him was a decision I mostly made overNight.) I guess I can't prove this, but
I completely missed ika's claim
at the time and I had misread and
thought Honey Bee was claiming a diff role
than DOB and thought she was dumb for asking to be lynched, (2) why I voted him.


Your vote on Atum: 1121
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Honey's Claim: 1154

You didn't miss ika's claim and you didn't think Honey was claiming something else either. Neither of those two things had happened at the time of your Atum vote.

I can see where you might get the timeline confused if you're reading backward to justify a wagon vote though.

( Also my mistake on the Rubicon thing, I think I misread that post in your ISO where you quoted font 3 times as your read on him. )
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Post Post #1373 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:23 am

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unsight has anyone mentioned abr for more than a few lines?

look at his game dude
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Post Post #1374 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:13 am

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In post 1373, hiplop wrote:unsight has anyone mentioned abr for more than a few lines?

look at his game dude


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