Micro 374: Baby Enough Scum 8p - GAME OVER

[Bins]

oh also one meta thing but that doesn't matter so yeah I guess it kind of was meta ~

[Bins]

I'll make comments about Kaboom and Phallacy when I get on a laptop.

[Doogal121]

Bins, TN has flippant responses whenever any thing gets pointed his way, makes him seem townish.

[Bins]

What?! If so, that's the exact reason I'm scum reading him.

[tn5421]

I've got Salamence and NotMafia as probably town, kaboooooom as probably scum, and Bins as a little suspicious but otherwise neutral.

[Bins]

Salamence might be partner to Kaboooom, if Kaboom flips.

"Oh, my partner is going down in flames! Quick! Let's try and lynch an SK which Kaboom totally isn't maybe."

[StupendousMan]

Alright, time to elaborate on my last post-

Kaboom, there is little doubt in my mind that you are scum. You focus only on trying to save yourself and ward off your accusers instead scumhunting. Your denial of slayer's gambit didn't help you at all, considering that is exactly what you claimed to be doing earlier in the game. Your arguments are weak, your scumhunting isn't present, and your reactions are entirely scummy. I was going to make a long case for you, but I think everyone can already see that you're scum. I'm content with your lynch, but first I would prefer to get some more out of D1.


Initially, Doogal's posts seemed very scummy to me due to lack of town motivation. However, realizing that he is still a newbie shifted his read toward null, because there's a good chance he sounds scummy as either alignment. This isn't to say he's getting off the hook, but he's definitely not the complete scum I thought he was before making this post.

#145 from Doogal is definitely not to my liking though. It looks like you're trying to appease Phallacy. Not town.

Salamence, I understand that finding the SK is a good strategy, however, the focus of many of your posts seem to be revolving around finding the SK instead of the usual scumhunting, and it makes me wonder if you're trying to convince others that you aren't the SK by searching for them so intently. Besides yourself, I agree that Bins may be a good candidate for SK, but, similar to NM's view, I have more confidence in Kaboom being scum than Bins being the SK.

Bins, you asked why TN is being townread. For one, his response to me getting a scum vibe from him early in the game was very not-caring, so that was town. Also, it looks like he is genuinely scumhunting and probing, unlike you.

The entry post was probably the towniest thing I've seen in this game so far, so I'm happy.

Btw NM's post was legit the towniest thing in this game.

Why are you buddying NM? How about you provide something of actual substance instead of avoiding real interactions with players?

slightly scummy

This is also a great reason to put someone at L-3 in a game with 3 antitown players.

This post is the reason for my slight scumread on Phallacy. It's not much, but I don't understand the concern for 3 scum hammering at this point in the game. It reads like "guys, all 3 scum are gonna hammer me because I'm not scum!" Not enough for an entire scumread, but a questionable post in my book.

In summary- SK is most likely in {Salamence, Bins}, but much more confident that Kaboom is some type of scum, so my vote will remain there for now. Also, a Bins+NM mafia team is not likely at all.

As far as reads go in case I wasn't clear:

TN and NM- town
Phallacy- good arguments but slightly leaning scum
Salemence- null and possible SK
Doogal- leaning scum
Bins- scummy and possible SK
Kaboom- scum.


Busy with schoolwork, but I'm going to become more active now.

[Bins]

But a not caring vibe is really easy to fake as scum, I don't see why that warrants a town read at all.

My scumhunting will start soon, I've posted I'll be LA until later notice in other games, I didn't think it was necessary in this one.

[tn5421]

Doogal comes off as somewhat town, though a bit light on activity.
I'm not liking Phallacy despite his activity. He's null to me.
Pre-156 I was suspicious of StupendousMan's lack of activity and "scum identified, need lynch" type posts.
Post-156 looks a lot better, even if we disagree on Salamence.

[StupendousMan]

@Bins-

Answer this:

Why are you buddying NM?

And it could be fake, but it appears genuine, especially if you look through the rest of his iso.

[Bins]

I'm not buddying NM, he's legit my strongest town read by far compared to everyone else.

[StupendousMan]

He is for me too, but why did you mention how great his post was twice? It was pretty unnecessary after this first time.

[tn5421]

Salamence might be partner to Kaboooom, if Kaboom flips.

"Oh, my partner is going down in flames! Quick! Let's try and lynch an SK which Kaboom totally isn't maybe."

Removing the possibility of nightkills gives us the luxury of time. If we can identify and lynch the SK day one, we are in a much better position to prevail against the mafia.

He is for me too, but why did you mention how great his post was twice? It was pretty unnecessary after this first time.

Bins, are you fangirling?

[Bins]

He is for me too, but why did you mention how great his post was twice? It was pretty unnecessary after this first time.

Because Salamence worded it like that post changed his read on me.

[tn5421]

If we run low on time and don't have a decent chance of hitting the SK, I can and will agree to vote for our most probable scum, kaboomy

He is for me too, but why did you mention how great his post was twice? It was pretty unnecessary after this first time.

Because Salamence worded it like that post changed his read on me.

Why does his opinion of you matter this much to you?

[Bins]

I do get that SK kill is probably the best bet rn, but I have a problem with one

1) Sala taking (trying) attention off what was already being discussed
2) Him being the one to aggressively push for it

Salamence might actually BE the SK, and he knows that suggesting lynching the SK right off the bat my clear him from being under that lynch line.

[Bins]

He is for me too, but why did you mention how great his post was twice? It was pretty unnecessary after this first time.

Because Salamence worded it like that post changed his read on me.

Why does his opinion of you matter this much to you?

I repeated what he was responding to, that's all.

[tn5421]

He is for me too, but why did you mention how great his post was twice? It was pretty unnecessary after this first time.

Because Salamence worded it like that post changed his read on me.

Why does his opinion of you matter this much to you?

I repeated what he was responding to, that's all.

That wasn't what I meant. I meant why did you feel the need to repeat it?

[Bins]

He is for me too, but why did you mention how great his post was twice? It was pretty unnecessary after this first time.

Because Salamence worded it like that post changed his read on me.

Why does his opinion of you matter this much to you?

I repeated what he was responding to, that's all.

That wasn't what I meant. I meant why did you feel the need to repeat it?

Because he was taking it wrong. Why would I want him to waste his vote on me?

[Bins]

You're playing up this "Apathy = Town" thing too much, TN.

[BBmolla]

Votecount 1.04

kabooooom - 3 - StupendousMan, Phallacy, Not_Mafia,
Phallacy - 1 - kabooooom
Bins - 1 - Salamence20

Not Voting: tn5421, Doogal121, Bins,

Deadline: (expired on 2014-08-24 18:18:00)

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[tn5421]

You're playing up this "Apathy = Town" thing too much, TN.

I didn't realize questioning you on your motives counted as apathy.

[Bins]

Why does his opinion of you matter this much to you?

I meant this. You question me as if it's a bad thing to care.

[Salamence20]

If I was the SK: Then why not keep lurking? I mean while you have phallacy and boom at each others necks, why would I bother to give you my two cents when I could lurk and it actually works? I would most likely put a naked vote on Boom and sheep TN.

If I was mafia: Why would I bother going after the SK and not going after the "mafia?" If I was the goon I know I am not going to die atleast today so why would I worry about the SK and ruin the high probability of the SK shooting town?

WIFOM I know, but I shouldnt have to be under-pressure for my current play while Bins is alive. ALSO WHY WOULD I SUGGEST QUICKLYNCH AS MAFIA WHEN I KNOW A MISLYNCH DAMNS ME.

I honestly do think Bins is playing textbook SK play. Simple as that. This play isnt familiar to how she played in Square Shreddies.

[Salamence20]

If I was the SK: Then why not keep lurking? I mean while you have phallacy and boom at each others necks, why would I bother to give you my two cents when I could lurk and it actually works? I would most likely put a naked vote on Boom and sheep TN.

If I was mafia: Why would I bother going after the SK and not going after the "mafia?" If I was the goon I know I am not going to die atleast today so why would I worry about the SK and ruin the high probability of the SK shooting town?

WIFOM I know, but I shouldnt have to be under-pressure for my current play while Bins is alive. ALSO WHY WOULD I SUGGEST QUICKLYNCH AS MAFIA WHEN I KNOW A MISLYNCH DAMNS ME.

I honestly do think Bins is playing textbook SK play. Simple as that. This play isnt familiar to how she played in Square Shreddies.