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Post Post #1525 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:16 am

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In post 1523, LimMePls wrote:
In post 1522, shos wrote:guys can anyone of you be a doll/awesome person who is not a doll/etc and find me some other games with 16 players in them?
I *really* want to check out the case for whether or not we have another scum to deal with in the ER slot or not. I currently townread that slot, but it's dangerous to be in lylo and not know it.


Shos, PLEASE try to follow this thought process, because I've tried to explain it to you about a million times now.

IT IS IRRELEVANT IF ER IS SCUM.

If ER is scum, we'll know it for a FACT on Day 8, when the game is still on going. The reason for this is thus:

D6: We lynch one of {ank, plag, titus} (assume we correctly lynch, because if we miss,
the game can just end on the spot
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N6: They NK one of {lmp, shos, ika}
D7: We lynch one of remaining from {ank, plag, titus}
N7: They NK one of remaining from {lmp, shos, ika}
D8: Remaining players: {ER, one of {ank, plag, titus}, one of {lmp, shos, ika}}

No matter which remaining players are alive from those sub groups, ER would be the only player who could be scum. All of {ank, plag, titus} were on my sensor, so only 2 of them could be scum. All of the players in our sensor are cleared. ER would therefore be guaranteed scum.

And note that the scum MUST kill from our pool, because to shoot outside of our pool is to give us the game automatically.

Wasting time/energy/brain-cycles on whether or not ER is scum is very unlikely to produce any useful info. The only possible value would be to look for theoretical connections between ER and ank/plag/titus. Which you can do right now anyways just assuming that ER is scum.

^^^^bolded my point. if we're in lylo we need to be 10 times more careful. if we're not, we can have ika as careless as he wishes.
But also, we can, if we're still worried, lynch ER first, and take care of the problem. that way we'll *know* we're in lylo tomorrow, and if we're in lylo now, we're good.
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Post Post #1526 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:18 am

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BUT ER IS SUPPLIYING ME STUFF TO USE SO IT IS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE AT THIS POINT
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Post Post #1527 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:27 am

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True, and yet we have nowhere to rush. Can you guys also link me to that DOMO-gambit you're talking about?
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Post Post #1528 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:29 am

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In post 1525, shos wrote:
In post 1523, LimMePls wrote:
In post 1522, shos wrote:guys can anyone of you be a doll/awesome person who is not a doll/etc and find me some other games with 16 players in them?
I *really* want to check out the case for whether or not we have another scum to deal with in the ER slot or not. I currently townread that slot, but it's dangerous to be in lylo and not know it.


Shos, PLEASE try to follow this thought process, because I've tried to explain it to you about a million times now.

IT IS IRRELEVANT IF ER IS SCUM.

If ER is scum, we'll know it for a FACT on Day 8, when the game is still on going. The reason for this is thus:

D6: We lynch one of {ank, plag, titus} (assume we correctly lynch, because if we miss,
the game can just end on the spot
)
N6: They NK one of {lmp, shos, ika}
D7: We lynch one of remaining from {ank, plag, titus}
N7: They NK one of remaining from {lmp, shos, ika}
D8: Remaining players: {ER, one of {ank, plag, titus}, one of {lmp, shos, ika}}

No matter which remaining players are alive from those sub groups, ER would be the only player who could be scum. All of {ank, plag, titus} were on my sensor, so only 2 of them could be scum. All of the players in our sensor are cleared. ER would therefore be guaranteed scum.

And note that the scum MUST kill from our pool, because to shoot outside of our pool is to give us the game automatically.

Wasting time/energy/brain-cycles on whether or not ER is scum is very unlikely to produce any useful info. The only possible value would be to look for theoretical connections between ER and ank/plag/titus. Which you can do right now anyways just assuming that ER is scum.

^^^^bolded my point. if we're in lylo we need to be 10 times more careful. if we're not, we can have ika as careless as he wishes.
But also, we can, if we're still worried, lynch ER first, and take care of the problem. that way we'll *know* we're in lylo tomorrow, and if we're in lylo now, we're good.


We should be just as careful REGARDLESS is my point. We should act as if ER is scum. There is very little cost to doing so.
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Post Post #1529 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:33 am

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Read from:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p6230812

To:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p6236761

The gambit specifically is:

In post 531, DOMO wrote:Oh hi titus. Why do you have a gun?


Followed by immediately wishing to end the game. PV confirmed that DOMO had the wish.
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Post Post #1530 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:34 am

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In post 1529, LimMePls wrote:Followed by immediately wishing to end the
day
. PV confirmed that DOMO had the wish.


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Post Post #1531 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:49 am

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that could've been a brilliant gambit.
and it's not that far fetched actually.

very interesting.
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Post Post #1532 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:01 am

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Vote count:

Ankamius (0)
Ika (0)
Evil Regals (0)
Shos (0)
Lynchmepls (0)
Titus (0)
The Plagiarist (0)

Not voting:
Plagiarist, evil, titus, anka, shos, ika, lmp

With 7 alive it will take 4 to lynch
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Post Post #1533 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:43 pm

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VOTE: ank
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Post Post #1534 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:45 pm

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whatever. I like plag better, but this game is stale.

Vote: Ank
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Post Post #1535 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:51 pm

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i can do either or i just notice ank posting elsewhere.

if plague end up getting replaced i would lynch him just so save mod time
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Post Post #1536 (ISO) » Sat Nov 08, 2014 12:14 am

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I am down with Ank or Plag. Just bold to catch my attention when to vote. Not putting L minus 1 when on vla.
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Post Post #1537 (ISO) » Sun Nov 09, 2014 12:01 am

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prodding plag
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Post Post #1538 (ISO) » Sun Nov 09, 2014 3:24 am

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Ill try to do my research today
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Post Post #1539 (ISO) » Sun Nov 09, 2014 3:40 am

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VOTE: Ank
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Post Post #1540 (ISO) » Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:45 am

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Unvote please. They are starting a quickhammer. Unvote quikly ika you are always pnline
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Post Post #1541 (ISO) » Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:11 am

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Not hammering.
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Post Post #1542 (ISO) » Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:12 am

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Ok well that tells us things. Ank is scumso I am not worried here.
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Post Post #1543 (ISO) » Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:36 am

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plag's vote makes me *realy* unconfrotable. so please unvote.
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Post Post #1544 (ISO) » Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:38 am

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In post 1543, shos wrote:plag's vote makes me *realy* unconfrotable. so please unvote.


I cannot. I am not voting silly.
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Post Post #1545 (ISO) » Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:04 am

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then it isn't for you!
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Post Post #1546 (ISO) » Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:04 am

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I'm not unvoting. Ank is a scum lynch. ER could have hammered me and didn't, and Titus could have hammered now, and didn't. Ank is scum. Someone hammer.
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Post Post #1547 (ISO) » Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:05 am

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VOTE: Ankamius
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Post Post #1548 (ISO) » Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:13 am

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ok he's scum :D
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Post Post #1549 (ISO) » Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:13 am

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if not, well, fuck you ank lol
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