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Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?-
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droog and shaddowez are both approaching their 4th prod.Last edited by Not_Mafia on Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:25 am, edited 3 times in total.Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?-
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In post 2224, Green Crayons wrote:Well, that wasn't really a defense, that was his best attempt to call me scum.
Considering droog's reason for voting me is almost purely PoE and because I'm a "lurker", I didn't see much to defend against. If he (or you, though I highly doubt it) have specific questions about what I did or why I did something, I'll be happy to address them.V/LA on Weekends-
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I assumed he wanted a defense to 2210 and 2211."This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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shaddowez He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
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I don't know what Thor was thinking or trying to accomplish, so anything I say is based purely off of guessing.
In post 2210, Green Crayons wrote:Thor-scum motivation for voting shaddow-buddy when nobody else was was that it allowed him to pretty safely vote a bud without too big of a fear of people joining him. At one point someone - I think it was Fink - asked Thor what he thought about the fact that nobody was joining him on his shaddow suspicions, and Thor basically gave the text version of a big shrug. Which is notable in how apathetic Thor was towards getting others to join him on the shaddow vote, in contrast to his pretty heavy-handed push of the other votes (as noted by acryon back when he was criticizing Thor's play).
Thor-scum motivation for jumping off of you and voting shaddow-buddy, and then telling me to join his vote/goading me into voting shaddow by pursuing my own shaddow suspicions, I guess was Thor trying to severely undercut my Thor suspicions by leading the charge against shaddow. Thor was a leading vote candidate at that time, tied with droog - so from Thor's perspective, even if he did get lynched, then his reignited shaddow push would look good for shaddow (it worked).
Thor first votes me on D5 with an empty vote, which he then explain as being based on no read/lurker reasonings. This is the vote that Fink questions about nobody joining with. He then switches to Droog later that Day based on discussion with Fink. He switches back to me, and a good portion of the early 1500 posts are him trying to convince droog that I'm scum, so I'm not sure where the apathetic push idea is coming from.
I also notice that you don't have anything to say about Thor voting your slotoncethe entire game, and there was zero push for him to get on that wagon. It was just another series of wall posts that didn't really say anything.
In post 2211, Green Crayons wrote:shaddow looks like he feels obligated to vote Thor, but doesn't necessarily really want to: he acknowledges that folks might see it as a OMGUS vote, so preemptively tries to kill that criticism, and then provides some pretty weak justifications.
As for why vote his buddy Thor-scum? I don't know. The VC was droog, Thor, and shaddow all at 1. Maybe he got nervous about him or Thor flipping without him having sufficiently distanced from Thor? Scum are much more worried about optics than town, so he could have been nervous about the following LYLO situation in which both he and Thor survived after having pushed through a droog-town lynch.
There was enough push for Thor's lynch that I didn't need to vote for Thor. However, using that reasoning at this point in the game doesn't really matter, because your admittedly showing confbias. Had I not voted for Thor, you would be finding a reason to use that against me. I'm also not sure I understand your last sentence there....if I'm scum, and we know Thor was, why would I be nervous about Thor and I surviving in LYLO?V/LA on Weekends-
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if you guys are both sure im town
you're sure the other's scum
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where's the fire?"...probably the worst player I have had the pleasure of playing with in the last ten years..."
"i dislike this guy immensely"
"the worst townie that ever I have ever had the misfortune to play with, by a long shot"-
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Green Crayons Jack of All Trades
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You are an asshole if you're scum. Making us wait for no reason. You are confirmed town. So it's not a matter of whether shaddow might be scum. He is scum from my perspective. Period.
I don't have fire because I don't really have skin in the game. I replaced in late and I pegged the last scum in my initial 3 person scum pool. I think I've done my part as a good townie. I was wrong about Riddle but these things happen. If town loses, it's not on my shoulders, so whatever. Good luck.
I've answered your questions about my play, my predecessor's play, Thor's play, and shaddow's play. What more would you like? A bloated spiel about something? I don't even know what else to talk about. This game is over for me in every way except formally. It's up to you to win of lose it.
I would appreciate winning this game, so this is my formal lodging for you to vote shaddow. His play has been to be safe and unobtrusive, allowing him to fly under the radar all game. The only person who suspected him before LYLO was Thor. Thor's sudden interest in voting shaddow, but not actively pushing shaddow, cannot be handwaved away.
Outside of POE, that's the best case for shaddow being scum. Compare that with shaddow's scum case on me, and then please vote for who you think is more likely to be scum."This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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^^^ Just reread that this morning.
Any undertones of me being an asshole is not really directed at you, it's just me being ready for the game to end because the fun is over for me, as I now know for certain who is and isn't scum. And there isn't exactly a stellar case on shaddow, so there's not a lot to rant and rave about.
However, unless if you have further questions for me, which I'll be happy to answer, I still don't think there's much else to contribute."This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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i dont really have anything i want to ask
im thinking the last scum is green
there's a general lact of conviction
in a situation where the townie must be fired up
so the townie is inactive"...probably the worst player I have had the pleasure of playing with in the last ten years..."
"i dislike this guy immensely"
"the worst townie that ever I have ever had the misfortune to play with, by a long shot"-
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Green Crayons Jack of All Trades
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You do realize
Your description of scum play
Fits shaddow more accurately than me
Even given his limited timeframe to post."This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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Green Crayons Jack of All Trades
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I just reread the past three pages.
lol @ your suggestion that my posting reflects a lack of conviction or that I'm being inactive scum more than shaddow.
Spoiler: My Reaction to Riddle Flip; Decision to Vote in LYLO
Spoiler: My Reaction to Being Right About Last Scum
Spoiler: My Explanation of Riddle Flip
Spoiler: My Answering droog's Questions About How Riddle-Scum Fits Play
Spoiler: Me Telling droog To Lynch shaddow
Compare with:
Spoiler: shaddow's Reaction to My shaddow-vote
Spoiler: shaddow's Reaction to My Criticism with Passive Aggression
Spoiler: shaddow's Reaction to My Explanation of Thor-Scum's and shaddow-Scum's play"This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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shaddow is doing exactly what he's done this entire game - by playing it safe, with limited input into the game, he's not going to garner much suspicion.
He got into the thread, saw that I had voted him, so voted me back with a weak case. He then responded to my criticism with a quick throw away. Only afterwards, once I explained that more was expected of him, did he put in some sort of effort to substantively respond to - that is, to engage with - what was happening in the thread.
None of these things, in and of themselves, is alignment indicative. But together, it's exemplary of his play this game: post something that's pretty nonoffensive, let it simmer, don't engage to any extensive degree, fly under the radar until end game."This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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And, finally:
Spoiler: Confirmed Town's Suspicions Of shaddow
I striked out the only non-legit suspicions, which was based on shaddow having weird post times."This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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over half of your quoted posts are one liners
which doesnt indicate town or scum
but does not suggest you're being real and genuine any more than it doesnt"...probably the worst player I have had the pleasure of playing with in the last ten years..."
"i dislike this guy immensely"
"the worst townie that ever I have ever had the misfortune to play with, by a long shot"-
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In post 2239, Green Crayons wrote:He got into the thread, saw that I had voted him, so voted me back with a weak case.
he would have to
its lylo and im the 'clear'"...probably the worst player I have had the pleasure of playing with in the last ten years..."
"i dislike this guy immensely"
"the worst townie that ever I have ever had the misfortune to play with, by a long shot"-
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In post 2241, droog wrote:"ive put so much work into this scumgame
why arent you letting me win yet"
YOU said I was being inactive, as if that was indicative of me being bored scum (or whatever).
I showed you that I have been active, and I've been pressing for you to follow up your shaddow suspicions with a shaddow vote.
You now coming back and saying "Oh yeah I guess you have been active, but your activity could be you just being active scum" is a worthless non sequitur because it goes off into left field, away from your original complaint was that Iwasn'tactive, and therefore the more likely scum."This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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In post 2242, droog wrote:over half of your quoted posts are one liners
which doesnt indicate town or scum
but does not suggest you're being real and genuine any more than it doesnt
Maybe if you read
The substance of those posts
You will see the extent of my emotional capability
On the internet."This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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In post 2245, Green Crayons wrote:YOU said I was being inactive, as if that was indicative of me being bored scum (or whatever).
no, i said you werent fired up"...probably the worst player I have had the pleasure of playing with in the last ten years..."
"i dislike this guy immensely"
"the worst townie that ever I have ever had the misfortune to play with, by a long shot"-
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are you fucking implying i cant fake emotional as shit one liners too
(not angry proving my point))"...probably the worst player I have had the pleasure of playing with in the last ten years..."
"i dislike this guy immensely"
"the worst townie that ever I have ever had the misfortune to play with, by a long shot"-
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In post 2243, droog wrote:In post 2239, Green Crayons wrote:He got into the thread, saw that I had voted him, so voted me back with a weak case.
he would have to
its lylo and im the 'clear'
Yes, but an empty vote would have been less suspicious than the weak case he tacked onto it. His used a case to justify his vote, rather than how a town would use a case: to explain why I am scum. If he was town and I was scum, he doesn't need to justify his vote - just like I don't need to justify my vote on him. You just have to explain why the other player is scum.
His use of the weak case comes from a scum mentality: always gotta justify your vote with a case."This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).
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