Micro 397 - A Very Serious Mafia Game (Game Over)

[Flubbernugget]

Bulge can you also give us the details of your "serious" mechanic?

[The Bulge]

Spoiler: Guyett - Werewolf Traitor Bulletproof-Enabler Mason Vigilante

Guyett

Welcome, Guyett. You are a

Werewolf Traitor Bulletproof-Enabler Mason Vigilante

.

Abilities:

Traitor - Although you are a part of the Werewolf faction, you do not know who your partner(s) is/are.

Bulletproof-Enabler - As long as you are alive, any player with the Bulletproof modifier will function normally. Once you are dead, all Bulletproof abilities will be nullified and no longer function.

Mason - During the Night Phase, you may communicate with Metal Sonic here. You know that they are not aligned with the Mafia, and they know the same about you.

Vigilante - Each Night Phase, you may kill one player.

Win condition:

You win when all members of every other faction have been eliminated and there is at least one Werewolf-aligned player still alive, or when nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Please confirm via PM by stating your role name.

Spoiler: Metal Sonic - Werewolf Traitor Bulletproof Mason Backup Vigilante

Metal Sonic

Welcome, Metal Sonic. You are a

Werewolf Traitor Bulletproof Mason Backup Vigilante

.

Abilities:

Traitor - Although you are a part of the Werewolf faction, you do not know who your partner(s) is/are.

Bulletproof - Any Night Kill attempts made against you will fail.

Mason - During the Night Phase, you may communicate with Guyett here. You know that they are not aligned with the Mafia, and they know the same about you.

Backup - If there is a Vigilante in the game, you will inherit their Vigilante powers once they die (any other powers they may have had will not be inherited).

Win condition:

You win when all members of every other faction have been eliminated and there is at least one Werewolf-aligned player still alive, or when nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Please confirm via PM by stating your role name.

Spoiler: gameplay506 - Town Cop Neighbour

gameplay506

Welcome, gameplay506, you are a

Town Cop Neighbour

.

Abilities:

Investigation - Each Night Phase, you may investigate one player. You will get a result of

Mafia

,

Not Mafia

, or

No Result

(you know you are guaranteed to be sane).

Neighbour - During the Night Phase, you may communicate with PokerFace here.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated and there is at least one Town-aligned player still alive.

Please confirm via PM by stating your role name.

Spoiler: PokerFace - Town Doctor Neighbour

PokerFace

Welcome, PokerFace, you are a

Town Doctor Neighbour

.

Abilities:

Protection - Each Night Phase, you may protect one player. If successful, any Night Kill attempts made against your target will fail.

Neighbour - During the Night Phase, you may communicate with gameplay506 here.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated and there is at least one Town-aligned player still alive.

Please confirm via PM by stating your role name.

Spoiler: Vanshed -Town Compulsive Weak Roleblocker

Vanshed

Welcome, Vanshed, you are a

Town Compulsive Weak Roleblocker

.

Abilities:

Each Night Phase, you must target one player. If successful, any Night Action (if any) performed by your target will fail. If you target an Anti-Town player, you will die. In the event that you fail to submit a choice, your target will be randomized.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated and there is at least one Town-aligned player still alive.

Please confirm via PM by stating your role name.

Spoiler: wgeurts - Town Gunsmith

wgeurts

Welcome, wgeurts, you are a

Town Gunsmith

.

Abilities:

Each Night Phase, you may investigate one player. You will either learn whether or not your target carries a gun, or receive No Result.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated and there is at least one Town-aligned player still alive.

Please confirm via PM by stating your role name.

Spoiler: Flubbernugget - Town Miller

Flubbernugget

Welcome, Flubbernugget, you are a

Town Miller

.

Abilities:

You have no Night Actions.

Passive - Any Cop that investigates you will receive a result of

Mafia

.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated and there is at least one Town-aligned player still alive.

Please confirm via PM by stating your role name.

Spoiler: fuzzybutternut - Town Backup Bulletproof Jack-of-All-Trades

fuzzybutternut

Welcome, fuzzybutternut, you are a

Town Backup Bulletproof Jack-of-All-Trades

.

Abilities:

You have no Night Actions.

Backup - If there is a Bulletproof Jack-of-All-Trades in the game, you will inherit their powers once they die.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated and there is at least one Town-aligned player still alive.

Please confirm via PM by stating your role name.

Spoiler: shos - Vanilla Townie

shos

Welcome, shos, you are a

Vanilla Townie

.

Abilities:

You have no Night Actions.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated and there is at least one Town-aligned player still alive.

Please confirm via PM by stating your role name.

Masonry
Neighbourhood
Graveyard

[shos]

1. I *LOATH* being a VT. especially in a game where everyone else is cooler
2. by seeing MS's claim, and the rest of the flips, I am sure that town could understand that there actually is no mafia, and therefore guyett is scum, just by analysis.

[The Bulge]

Bulge, any chance of a "A Very Serious Mafia 2 - Now with less Normality?"
I think that could be really fun.

A Mini Theme sequel is already in the works

Bulge can you also give us the details of your "serious" mechanic?

I did that to mess with you guys. I wanted to see if people would still remember it as we got later into the game (it was never really mentioned again) but it was just a fun thing to keep you on your toes... and maybe a little bit for my own amusement.

Now, many of you voiced concern - whether it was here, via PM, or in the dead thread - that the setup was not Normal. And I do admit that I did stray away from the Guidelines accidentally. To understand fully, you need to understand how the design process worked. Originally, this was going to be just a bastard game, no other catch. But when I was looking for inspiration in the Normal Role list, I realized that there were several combinations that would technically be "Normal" but would produce a bastard result. It was going to be just that until I decided to advertise it publicly as "following the Normal Guidelines". One rule I accidentally broke was Werewolf Masons. The split scum-team was the first idea I had for this setup, and they were originally Neighbours. Late in the design process (probably one of the last things I did), I switched them to Masons without really double-checking the Guidelines. The Open Setup Masons and Monks was my inspiration for Werewolf Masons, but I didn't realize that scum Masons are against Normal Guidelines because the Mason role itself only specifies "not Mafia". Sorry about that, folks.

I know I answered a few PMs with "I'll discuss this in post-game", so if you think I owe you an answer, speak up here because I don't remember and I don't know if I've covered it already.

[The Bulge]

1. I *LOATH* being a VT. especially in a game where everyone else is cooler.

I felt bad about that. It sucked to give out a VT role. I knew someone would be disappointed. Random.org hates you.

[The Bulge]

Oh crap Night Actions. I'll do those

now

when I get home to my laptop because they're all neat and tidily formatted there.

[fuzzybutternut]

Did you really change your picture to incorporate a less serious atmosphere for this game? 'cause that's what it seemed like.

[The Bulge]

Did you really change your picture to incorporate a less serious atmosphere for this game? 'cause that's what it seemed like.

Haha no, that was because of a Speakeasy thread.

[fuzzybutternut]

hahaha. Fit perfectly for this game.

[Vanshed]

Thanks for takng the guarateed win that faled to really outlne day 2 and turn t nto a loss. (f flubber was town, mason clams were scum, although to be honest hadn't actually gone that far (why blocked guyett rather than sonc n the attempt to confrm t, somethng to do wth not wantng a vg kll to happen)

That gameplay lynch was the worst - you fuckng beleved

[Vanshed]

a cop clam from someone that was estashblshed as bulletproof. There s no way a mrco s gong to have a bulletproof cop, even f t s also a seer. bggest wtf moment there.

[Vanshed]

PokerFace's ignorance really fucked town, though. I want him to know that.

Pokerface was the only person even thnkng after my death, some was wrong, but gven he actually gave town the chance of not stupdly losng n mylo, your post s now drected at yourself and wguerts for beng gnornant of day 2's actvtes.

Ah, I thought you looked scummy cus you didn't vote. Helpful site meta to know.

We bloody play wth 2 week deadlnes, why would we want to nsta-vote? Good to know you're someone scum want around n lylo.

[Guyett]

I killed poker because he was thinking even though he was hard town reading me. I considered not killing for town cred with him but decided he might figure me out.

[fuzzybutternut]

Pokerface was the only person even thnkng after my death, some was wrong, but gven he actually gave town the chance of not stupdly losng n mylo, your post s now drected at yourself and wguerts for beng gnornant of day 2's actvtes.

I wasn't ignorant of anything.
I suggested MANY times who could be scum and for what reasons. I literally posted, went to sleep, and woke up and I was dead.

[Vanshed]

You hammered gameplay on a dodgy gulty from MS - you were gnornant. (not as gnornant as wguerts straght vote though)

you are me, you know yourself to be town and have my role. Its day 4. Who is scum?

You also know vanshed targetted fuzzy nght 1 and take a guess as to hm targetted guyett nght 2. You see hs flp.
Guyett and Sonc are scum. (please explan how you managed to stll have the town-read on guyett there)

you are fuzzy, you know yourself to be town and have fuzzy's role. Its day 5. Who is scum?

Pokerface just clamed doctor and ded the followng nght - he was not scum and therefore saved wguerts successfully, Guyett s scum.
Knowng vanshed's actons ths should also be easly fgured out by wguerts.
Ths s especally the case after seeng Sonc's flp.

[PokerFace]

I was leaning fuzzy scum and when i went to bed last night in real life i slept on guyett possibilty. I woke dead and still leaning fuzzy but didn't think you were impossible. Only that wguerts was impossible.

If it was you, me and fuzzy. I would have voted you since fuzzy scum would not kill wguerts given day 4

if it was you, me, wguerts I would have voted you cause i knew it weren't wguerts

if it was me, you, fuzzy, and wguerts i would have been much more susepotable to fuzzy being town as he could then be right about mafia not being able to kill. Which would mean vanshed going to you killed vanshed

Killing me was smart guyett

[PokerFace]

you are me, you know yourself to be town and have my role. Its day 4. Who is scum?

You also know vanshed targetted fuzzy nght 1 and take a guess as to hm targetted guyett nght 2. You see hs flp.
Guyett and Sonc are scum. (please explan how you managed to stll have the town-read on guyett there)[/quote]
guyett said scum have day talk. Me and gameplay have day talk. scum gonna admit they have day talk? Nope

Also I thought scum killed you at night. Weak doctor only kill =/= their target scum. There would need to be 2 kills

Also I was a doctor neighbored with a cop. Sonic claimed bulletproof cop. Him and gameplay not much different in roles. And gameplay said he was 1 shot and then changed to multishot in the neighbor thread. Thats an untrustworthy move lieing to your neighbor

[Guyett]

My scum game has improved a ridiculous amount from last year

[PokerFace]

you are me, you know yourself to be town and have my role. Its day 4. Who is scum?

You also know vanshed targetted fuzzy nght 1 and take a guess as to hm targetted guyett nght 2. You see hs flp.
Guyett and Sonc are scum. (please explan how you managed to stll have the town-read on guyett there)

guyett said scum have day talk. Me and gameplay have day talk. scum gonna admit they have day talk? Nope

Also I thought scum killed you at night. Weak doctor only kill =/= their target scum. There would need to be 2 kills

Also I was a doctor neighbored with a cop. Sonic claimed bulletproof cop. Him and gameplay not much different in roles. And gameplay said he was 1 shot and then changed to multishot in the neighbor thread. Thats an untrustworthy move lieing to your neighbor

Also note i did not vote that day. read the neighbor thread. I was leaning toward lynch sonic, shoot gamplay. Only thing that made me hesitate was gameplay not checking who i told him to check.

[PokerFace]

wow theres some heavy quote tag failing there, but i believ you should know who is who

[PokerFace]

gameplay targeted guyett. got inocent and wguerts found a gun.
you targeted fuzzy and lived

guyett has 2 apposing inspect results. So he is not investigation imune. So he is innocent with a gun = vig
Is there a scenario where a weak guy lives on scum. Yes there is. You said so yourself

[PokerFace]

gameplay targeted guyett. got not mafia and wguerts found a gun.
you targeted fuzzy and lived

guyett has 2 apposing inspect results. So he is not investigation imune. So he is innocent with a gun = vig
Is there a scenario where a weak guy lives on scum. Yes there is. You said so yourself

fixed

[PokerFace]

gameplay targeted guyett. got not mafia and wguerts found a gun.
you targeted fuzzy and lived

guyett has 2 apposing inspect results. So he is not investigation imune. So he is not mafia with a gun = vig
Is there a scenario where a weak guy lives on scum. Yes there is. You said so yourself

fixed

also a werewolf with a gun still feels very wierd. How does he hold that gun, seriously?

Also I have been a vig that beat people up. So vigs don't always have guns. So seriously gunsmith didn't need to find a gun there

[Vanshed]

gameplay targeted guyett. got inocent and wguerts found a gun.
you targeted fuzzy and lived

guyett has 2 apposing inspect results. So he is not investigation imune. So he is innocent with a gun = vig
Is there a scenario where a weak guy lives on scum. Yes there is. You said so yourself

wasn't aware of the neighoubrhood postngs at the tme of me postn as hdn't got up to readng them at that tme.

The fact gameplay also led n the neghbourhood as well as n thread about the amount of shots means am okay wth that. My real reacton cannot be taped as was spoled as soon as entered the dead thread.

dn't understand how Sonc's flp ddn't show guyett to be scum though.

Yes dd say that, as asked Bulge about t before clamed.

Bulge, f you're runnng one of these agan, can you at least make sure the game s mafa, aka havng an mformed mnotry, whch ths game ddn't.

[Metal Sonic]

"werewolf traitor" i didn know guyett was my partner but i found out day 2