Micro 408: Maru's Mollas Grand Idea Mafia

[Garmr]

I waited 12 pages of false hope I'm a horrible horrible person.

On a side note note Constantine had a extra win condition of taking out a king (or any role that decides who's lynched.) right that means if he shot lostpatience he would of won as well?

[Aleumdaum]

Alien Weeping Angel

You are 1-Shot Bulletproof.

Once in the game, you may kill anyone that has not visited you with a night action. After you perform this kill you will be treestumped for the rest of the game.

You know, I think the wording of this particularly "this kill" as singular plus no indication otherwise imply that only one kill is allowed. It feels like a weakened Alien in terms of kill powers, but strengthened in terms of the 1-Shot BP. Yes the idea that you can kill multiple players is open, but so is the idea that "kill anyone" refers to making a single choice out of that group of allowed kills, not to mention it makes a lot more sense balance-wise. Kaiveran's other roles aren't nearly as OP as the interpretation of this one was.

[Flames682]

Yeah now that I look at it, I think Kaiv meant that he could shoot one person.

[Flames682]

Maru, you basically added a role that said "you win when the game starts"

[Maruchan]

i interpreted the role to the best of my abilities. sorry

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Once in the game you may kill anyone.

Not once in the game you may kill everyone.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Wait, how does a treestump win?

Surely this is a scorched earth draw?

[Pine]

Wow

Seriously, mod fail

Yes, modded correctly by letter of the law

Failed the common sense test

[Pine]

Garmr and Flames, well played

Constantine, total fail. Anti-Town play

Rest of Town, where the hell were you?

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Simple pine, our TRUE wincondition was to make you think that this game was real.

But yeah, thats fairly BS so nobody wanted anythign to do with this.

[Pine]

I mean, I get it that 90% of the discussion had to do with seeping up interpretation of TP issues, but most of that problem was because Town refused to get in there and scumhunt

Not that it would've ended up doing any good, but there was no effort

[Kaiveran]

OH MY GOOOOODDDD.

Yeah now that I look at it, I think

Kaiv meant that he could shoot one person.

^ this this this

.

Once

in the game. This

kill

, singular.

Anyone

, not everyone. Why would I

ever

put in a role that is automatic win for its team?

Whyyyy?

This sucks, some good fun roles I designed make it in, and it all gets beyond ruined. I'm really sorry for any responsibility I share in this debacle, but to me it looks like it was just lack of common sense on the part of the mod. Oh well, there's nothing to be done now.

Again, though, I must stress, this was NOT how the role was supposed to work.

Any edits you think could be made to the role description that could prevent such things from happening in the future?

[Maruchan]

Common sense in not so common.

cough

[Kaiveran]

I'm aware of that, and that's why I asked for advice in clearing up the rule. Sitting there going, "oh, it wasn't

my

fault" isn't constructive.

Anyway, I've revised the role description; what does everyone think?

Alien Weeping Angel

You are 1-Shot Bulletproof and have a 1-Shot Vigilante kill. This kill can be used at any time, but can only be used on those who have not targeted you with a night action. (At the end of each night you will receive a report on anyone who targeted you.)

After you perform your kill, you will be treestumped for the rest of the game.

[Garmr]

I think you should have the vig shot in the night phase as you have no fake claim if you use it during the day phase.

[Pine]

Make it macho

[quadz08]