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Wiki Category Update

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:19 pm
by diginova
So at the moment the roles in the Wiki are categorized into really weird categories:
(Look here to see what roles are in each category: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... gory:Types)

Alignment-Changing roles: All roles that can change the alignment of a player.
Historical Roles: This is a group of roles which are trying to vanish however we're being selfish enough to deny their passage to the underworld.
Informative: These are roles which provide info to the player themselves or others, think "Cop" or "Innocent Child".
Killing: Roles that kill in as many creative ways as possible.
Linked Roles: Roles that are linked to other roles, think "Lyncher".
Manipulative Roles: Roles that can manipulate other roles.
Misleading Roles: Roles that are there to fool others or the person with it.
Multipurpose Roles: Roles that have multiple purposes.
Negative Utility Roles: Roles that hinder more than help the alignment with it.
Normal Roles: Roles that are deemed normal on Mafia Scum.
Passive Roles: Roles that don't require any action from the player with it.
Protective Roles: Roles that are there to prevent the many evils in this world.
Role Modifiers: These change or add abilities to a role.
Support Roles: Roles that are there to aid the group their on.
Third-Party Roles: Roles that win separate from the standard two factions.
Voting Roles: Roles that influence voting.
Roles that are actually kind of annoying really

In Art, we're currently working on a sidebar update that will add shiny art, as seen here:
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Diginova

The issue that I found after talking with Vi is that the categories really aren't the best — some are vague, others unclear, so I figured why not change them now when we're already changing everything else?
tl;dr: What would the best list of categories be to categorize (pretty much) every MS role into? Which ones should change? Which should be deleted?

(Also, if you think some icons need changing, mention that as well.)

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:26 pm
by N
I'm surprised Investigative isn't a category.

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:45 pm
by wgeurts
I was planning to do this myself and suggested some in the wiki overhaul thread, however people complained against any change so I stopped.

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:46 pm
by wgeurts
Mabye it would be better if we group all these new changes in 1 thread, at the moment there are 3

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:02 am
by wgeurts
Found the post:

In post 23, wgeurts wrote:I'm going to get started doing the same stuff to the role's section as I did to the setups section. However to get started I will need to sort them all into (better) categories. My thoughts for these are:
Protective: Doctor ect.
Informative: Cop, Stalker ect.
Confirmative: Innocent Child, Mason ect.
Passive: Lightning Rod, Ascetic ect.
Manipulative: Roleblocker ect.
Lynch Based: Lyncher, Jester ect.
Cult Based: Cult Leader, Mentor ect.

First I'd divide all the roles into mafia/town/3rd party and then within those categories they will be sorted into the above sub categories. Does this sound good?
Oppinions or suggestions?


People didn't like the sound of the categories being changed to the point of there being said "just stahp". However if that's changed over the few weeks I'd be willing to lend a hand.

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:20 am
by Mathdino
Hmm, 'manipulative' is also kind of vague, and 'confirmative' doesn't really make sense unless it's actually mod confirmed like innocent child. I'd say masons would go with something like neighborizer or anything else that can talk at night.

Agree that cult should prolly be a separate category.

I like making a 'lynch based' instead of making lyncher and lynchee 'linked roles', definitely. Something like beloved princess would go there.

We do need a voting roles section for stuff like governor, hated, hammer-based roles, etc. Also multipurpose; JOAT or inventor can't really go anywhere else.

Which categories don't you like, diginova?

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:59 am
by wgeurts
Ok revised suggestion from my behalf:
Protective
Informative
Communication
Passive
Manipulative
Killing
Third-Party
Cult Based
Lynch Based.

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:55 pm
by Sajin
Role modifiers should also be a category. One shot, percentage roles, weak, strong, conditional to activate etc.I guess you can just put these in other roles but the list gets long then.