Open 577: Hope Plus One! (GAME OVER - SCUM WIN)

[Cane + Able]

Trying to force associative tells ON PAGE ONE (which this pretty much is as the game just started) isn't giving me very good vibes.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

Newbie, wake, house. We might not be buddies this game, but don't forget, Constantine always loves you
I'm glad we ended RVS early. There's a couple ppl here I want to PL for shits and giggles, but beyond that, we should wait for more

people

to

come on and be active

.
I'll soft claim to stir discussion. There's no

red

in my role PM

[St Constantine the Hermit]

I wasn't talking about an ongoing game....

[St Constantine the Hermit]

I'm actually policy lynching mathdino because he annoys the living shit out of me and others
VOTE: Mathdino
I'm going to request that he stops talking to me. Please, just shut up. Shut. The. Hell. Up.

#Thankscum

[Cane + Able]

How bout you not talk about ongoing games, Constantine?

Not exactly ready for you to start clogging up the thread, mate.

@C+A: The issue is that 'townslip' doesn't discount the fact that he unvoted Constantine and then cast suspicion on him.

Well let's look at that, shall we?

He random voted.
He was told random voting was over.
He unvoted, removing his RANDOM vote, and three out a derp post that want worth a vote on its own merits even if he was right.

Reachy, Math. Real reachy.

[Cane + Able]

I'm actually policy lynching mathdino because he annoys the living shit out of me and others
VOTE: Mathdino
I'm going to request that he stops talking to me. Please, just shut up. Shut. The. Hell. Up.

#Thankscum

PL & AtE isn't influencing me to remove my vote.

-House

[St Constantine the Hermit]

I reviewed all of mathdinos games. He's been town in everyone he's finished. I also noticed that he's right about 10% of the time.
Seriously. I read all his games. This dominating attitude that leads him to failure may just be his meta.

[Mathdino]

@Mod

: Can you publish the role PMs? It's an open setup, after all.

The role PMs are exactly taken from the wiki of the setup (with relevant names substituted in).

@Constantine: So what games are you talking about? Link, please. Because as I recall, Stack The Deck had me pushing scum to L-1 and lining up 2 scum players if a townie flipped town, and thesp's game was far from dominated by me.

@House: ??? So do you disagree with my logic, or are you just going to dismiss it and say it gives you bad vibes? Show me where I'm wrong, and tell me how saying that you and BMWS aren't scum together is in any way scum motivated. Scummy associatives would be "These guys are probably TvS, let's lynch them both!"

Edit: For the love of god, Constantine. For the love of god.

Edit2: Ah, but see, here's the thing. He random voted, that's cool. He was told random voting was over, cool. But then he unvoted because the RV made him look bad, and then cast suspicions that defended the vote that he'd just removed.

Edit3: Why did you sign up for this game?

[St Constantine the Hermit]

PL & AtE isn't influencing me to remove my vote

I legit want him dead. Policy lynch is the only way brother.
I'm not really concerned about 1 vote out of 7 required on me, so

don't flatter yourself

.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

LOC is broken between SCTH and MD. All posts will be terminated.

[Mathdino]

You want to PL me for being wrong in the past?

I encourage people to look at this. Constantine successfully ignored the third party wincons, in fact ignoring everyone, used some of the worst logic I've ever seen... I could go on but I recommend you ISO him, Pine, and Flames.

[theelkspeaks]

Vote Count 1.1
notreallygood
Newbie
Gravity
CultivationTheory
copper223
Cane + Able
acryon
Aneninen (1) - Mathdino
Mathdino (1) - St. Constantine the Hermit
blindmewithscience
Pastro
texcat
St Constantine the Hermit (1) - Cane and Able

With 13 alive, 7 to lynch

[St Constantine the Hermit]

I'm leaving for the rest of the night, because mathdino is literally the most annoying player here. I'll talk more about it when the time is right.
Just to note though, he's responding with lots of questions. I don't have good experience with that, so change my PL to a semi-serious pressure vote.

In the meantime, I would like to know the game experience of House, simply because it looks like he's going to be a large presence in this game.
I know wake88 quite well, and I know he gets really involved in these games, but I would like to minimize the length of this day phase, as some of the people on the player list like to draw out the game for quite awhile.
I'm not opposed to people continuing RVS btw, and I actually encourage it.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

I also would prefer it if MD and I ignore each other for the rest of day one, because no one signed up for drama, and it is literally just a "whos dick is larger" match with him.

[texcat]

RVS can't be over yet.

VOTE: Copper because he's wearing a funny hat.

[Mathdino]

Spoiler: Constantine's Amazing MS Game

Okay, so what's up guys? Fuduzn's humor is offsetting, right?

Kill:

Fuduzn

Daykills someone for having a post restriction requiring them to make jokes.

No.

This is actually a really iffy role that I'd call semi-bastard

1) Are you alligned with flames, who is also claiming to be TP?
2) What's the likelihood you both have the same role, like he's hinting at?

These questions will determine whether or not we're lynching him.

Thinks third parties are aligned with each other, thinks the unlikelihood of people having the same role means their claims are false.

Yeah, that does suck for you, but you kind of have to die now. That other guy too.

Or let me fucking fulfill my wincon so I can leave the game?

Tries to lynch third parties that self eliminate after a few days.

Full claim the third party role. Almost all TP roles involve killing someone, so you really need to give us some more information.

Untrue.

Flames, what is the name of your role. That sounds like a bastard role.

"That sounds like a bastard role" in a bastard game.

I want to know the truth now. Flames said that three people need to target anyone in the game.
Pine says three players need to directly target them. Either one of them is lying, they have different win conditions, or again, the mod made a mistake.

PE2: NO, GODDAMNIT. NOT THREE PEOPLE, 1/3. RIGHT THIS MINUTE IT'S 3. LATER IT DROPS TO 2, THEN 1, AND WE'RE GONE. LYNCHING SELF-ELIMINATING ROLES IS ANTITOWN

This is about the 5th time I think that Pine said that his role self-eliminates after 1/3 of the game targets him. Constantine continues to try to lynch him and Flames and paints them as liars due to literally not listening at all.

I'm giving Pine the benefit of the doubt. We lynch someone else today, and if doesn't hit scum, we're lynching him tomorrow.

Tries to line up a lynch on a third party for being wrong in the future. A self-eliminating provable harmless third party.

The kicker? Constantine was town.

Now let's look at this game:
Tries to start a townbloc (scum motivated, antitown).
Tries to policy lynch an active player for an

ongoing game

because he knows that my other games are bad reasons to lynch me.
Tries to completely ignore said active player.
Tries to get people to continue RVS when RVS is

over

.

You have a lot of gall trying to policy lynch me, brother. I've never claimed to be right all the time. But guess what? That's literally what you do every other post.
Link. The. Games. Or get the hell out.

[Cane + Able]

Why would you want a short day phase which deprives town of information?

The odds of town lynching scum day one are already slightly below average, why would you want to rush the process and make those odds even worse?

-House

[Mathdino]

I also would prefer it if MD and I ignore each other for the rest of day one, because no one signed up for drama, and it is literally just a "whos dick is larger" match with him.

Incorrect usage of literally

Constantine, if you didn't want drama,

why are you trying to policy me off the bat.

[Cane + Able]

RVS can't be over yet.

VOTE: Copper because he's wearing a funny hat.

Trying to restart RVS is keeping you out of my town pile.

We are trying to scum hunt and there is plenty of content to stay with.

[Cane + Able]

Stay = start

[Cane + Able]

My town pile is anemic.

BMWS is dying of loneliness over here.

-House

[texcat]

Boo. I thought y'all were measuring dicks, not actually scum hunting.

[Mathdino]

texcat, we have information in the first 2 pages when it comes to the BS voting bloc Const is trying to set up. If you want to look at that, by all means. It's why I'm voting Anenemimemenonymous.

[Cane + Able]

PL & AtE isn't influencing me to remove my vote

I legit want him dead. Policy lynch is the only way brother.
I'm not really concerned about 1 vote out of 7 required on me, so

don't flatter yourself

.

So you want him dead regardless of alignment?

You know PLs are anti-town, right? Unless you have a valid reason to vote for someone, please don't.

Well, unless you are scum, of course. In which case, keep on truckin'.

-House

[Mathdino]

That's because Constantine's meta is anti-town.

His playstyle. Is actually to try to screw over town.

I'd policy him if

there weren't actual suspects

. Which Constantine is willfully ignoring.