Mini 1646: Quil's Smalltown (Game over!)

[Quilford]

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  Vote count 1.4
  
  
  Aronis (4)— DeasVail, Marquis, Flubbernugget, xRECKONERx
  Jingle (2)— Shiidaji, Antihero
  farside22 (2)— Jingle, Pine
  Pine (2)— farside22, Grib
  
  Not Voting (3)— Bookitty, Jake from State Farm, Aronis
  
  It takes 7 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Day 1 will be 10 days long. It ends in (expired on 2015-02-24 21:15:09).
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  Jake from State Farm is on V/LA.
  
  Remember, you can request an updated Role PM containing your selected role's info any time you like, as detailed in the Setup post.

[farside22]

Who here has played with aronis?

*Looks at reck*

Pretty sure you have.

Most people find him scummy.
His response is typical aronis. :headsmack:

[Marquis]

do i want to be a part of this wagon now

[xRECKONERx]

after that immaculate post by me, why not

[DeasVail]

wait fuck no i meant to sheep him not vote him

VOTE: aronis

You're forgiven, it's ok.

[farside22]

Well I see this is going to be another fun filled let's ignore farside type game for me.
Fun.

[xRECKONERx]

Who here has played with aronis?

*Looks at reck*

Pretty sure you have.

Most people find him scummy.
His response is typical aronis. :headsmack:

is this you saying he's town

what warrants a response here, exactly

[farside22]

Who here has played with aronis?

*Looks at reck*

Pretty sure you have.

Most people find him scummy.
His response is typical aronis. :headsmack:

is this you saying he's town

what warrants a response here, exactly

Aronis is an easy mislynch. I've seen it a number of games.
I'm wondering what makes him scum this game.

[Pine]

Wow. That's a real scumtastic response by Aronis. I like the case, too. Holding off on a real vote because I don't know how big the wagon is, and I don't desire a quicklynch

I forgot how hilarious Reckposting is

[farside22]

Next up to express interest will be pine.
This scumtastic wagon is brought to you by scum r us.
Yes scum r us.

Good I feel mafia with a twist all over again coming.

[Jake from State Farm]

Sup

[Jake from State Farm]

I should be back from v/la tomorrow and I'll get caught up

[Marquis]

hey farside i'm familiar with aronis too

there are many reasons why he typically eats mislynches as town

this differs from previous encounters

[farside22]

hey farside i'm familiar with aronis too

there are many reasons why he typically eats mislynches as town

this differs from previous encounters

Can you explain to me the differences?

[farside22]

Mod: did scum get pregame chat of some sort?

[Grib]

Nothing Has Really Rappened Yet so I'm Just Posting to Post

, a story by Grib

[Quilford]

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  Mod: did scum get pregame chat of some sort?

  
  Scum were able to talk freely in the length of time between receiving their alignment PMs and the start of Day 1, regardless of whether or not they drafted the Encryptor, yes.
  

[Jingle]

I'm gone until monday.

But based solely off of role selection?

VOTE: farside

What up now?

You're saying farside is scum based on role selection? Wtf would scum want that role? It is of no use to them.

Really now? Dodging the NK, and extra kill if you get shot by the other team, and that particular reaction is "no use"? Fascinating.

The highest utility roles to scum are, in order:

Gentleman Thief
Ascetic
Encryptor
Vanillaizer
Roleblocker
Universal Backup
Invictus
Bulletproof

Of particular interest to the SK are bulletproof, ascetic and Thief.

The bodyguard is the only role that neither mafia or SK have any interest in picking, as the role should die fairly soon either way. By the same function, Cop and Archivist are far too likely to be killed to be of any use to scum. Those three players, Reck, Boo, and Shii, can now be treated as functional IC's.

Bulletproof and Thief should move every night, so as to keep scum on their toes. No one should claim anything relevant to that change until the day before LYLO. That way, scum cannot know if a failed kill was due to a BP or a RB unless they have one of them. Cop should claim on D2, and they should target a high utility role that is not already functionally an IC. Vanillaizer is basically a scumclaim, but given the fact that it was not a choice that was made, that's a whole other bag of null. Flubbs, if you get lynched you should vanilla-ize only off of that list, preferably encryptor if Marquis is still alive as that has no town utility.

I've looked a bit at the setup, and the only thing I can say for sure is that no one should target Reck night 1 with the exception of Boo. Boo should totally be protected. All other actions are best undirected, although if the RB targets Boo, Reck, the bodyguard or the BP, they're probably scum.

@Quill: will the BG be told whether or not their action succeeded?

Oh, and also, farside is probably town as of 132.

[Jingle]

I typed that 3 hours ago, btw. Sorry about the wait.

[farside22]

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  Mod: did scum get pregame chat of some sort?

  
  Scum were able to talk freely in the length of time between receiving their alignment PMs and the start of Day 1, regardless of whether or not they drafted the Encryptor, yes.
  

Okay so I'm thinking if aronis is scum, giving dv's thought.
Wouldn't there be a talk about what to take?

I just think changing his mind on what to pick would get people voting him and there is more advantage to keeping rb as scum.

[Quilford]

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  @Quill: will the BG be told whether or not their action succeeded?

  
  They won't, no.
  

[Aronis]

@Jingle: I had forgotten about the SK.

[Marquis]

hey farside i'm familiar with aronis too

there are many reasons why he typically eats mislynches as town

this differs from previous encounters

Can you explain to me the differences?

aronis is typically mislynched for being too honest, in a way. if you were to look up in the wiki the things he says and does, the wiki would say it fits a list of scumtells well- too well.

i see aronis as a player whose undisguised, natural behavior is unpleasant for those who hunt "by the book" to see. and i'm not perfect, but it's what i look for and usually see in him

but that's not the case here. here, i see him being facetious. with his current unimportant line of questioning for me, instead of getting to the point. with what he said to jingle about farside, while sounding both unreasonably angry and not, etc.

of course i could be absolutely wrong and this is a part of his play that's non-alignment indicative but

well

i'd be okay with lynching the ascetic, anyway.

[Bookitty]

Who here has played with aronis?

*Looks at reck*

Pretty sure you have.

Most people find him scummy.
His response is typical aronis. :headsmack:

Sorry about inactivity today; I fell asleep

@Farside: Does Aronis typically act this way regardless of alignment?

I haven't played with him before that I remember. My objection to him (apart from role related things, most notably the stutter-step about roleblocker vs. ascetic) is attitude. He's doling out information very sparingly and he seems really antagonistic in response to questions.

I asked him if he was confident in his ability to play power roles because that would have been an answer as to why one would pick ascetic over roleblocker. I'm not terribly confident myself but I'm planning on asking who I should target and then picking semi-randomly from the responses given. It's not like I need to hide in this game.

I think if you pick a role that can't be read you ought to be willing to eat the lynch because it's going to be necessary unless you town it up incredibly and basically prove yourself through other means. Aronis hasn't done that. He's done the opposite of that. You're saying he's abrasive, I think -- if he knows that, then it's on him to either choose a different role or to demonstrate he's town through play.

If this is his playstyle, we're going to have to lynch him at some point anyway for being unreadable and/or scummy. Why shouldn't it be today?

[Aronis]

Can you please elaborate on how I was antagonistic when responding to your questions? And where I held back information?