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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:53 am

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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:55 am

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Your vote should be ZERO percent serious. It's literally no better than a random vote.

Senator, nobody other than Flubber has given Mick (serious) flak for that, so...?
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:02 am

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In post 64, Plotinus wrote:I'm still mainly in RVS at the moment, but I changed my vote because he said:

In post 50, choof wrote:
In post 41, Jeanne11 wrote:Hello, my homies. This player asks which one of you is mafia?

you and I are scum partners, thought we already established in the quicktopic


I realise he's probably joking but I don't have anything else to go on at this stage so saying he has a scumpartner is a good enough reason to vote him as any. Also it would be totally ironic if he was telling the truth.


there are a few ways I think I could paraphrase this but I'll just ask something instead
what is the purpose of prefacing a post that contains reasoning for a vote with "I'm still mainly in RVS"
by definition, backing up your vote with reasoning puts you solidly out of RVS
so this post is either forced or disingenuous
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:28 am

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He asked me why I changed my vote. I did have a reason, so I shared it. RVS isn't black and white for me. If RVS is white and having a strong read on someone is black then my reason is a very very pale grey. I like to let people know who strong (or weak) my opinions/reasoning/reads are when I'm sharing them, otherwise people tend to think I feel more strongly about things than I do. It seems that you guys are doing that anyway though so whatever.
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:49 am

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rofl v2
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:00 am

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@senator without discussing theory too much this site takes voting as a very strong protrayal of one's intentions. The fact that conman didn't even ask the mod if his vote counted suggests his vote was not being used to scumhunt
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:01 am

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Also I don't like him explaining himself so much
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:10 am

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That it the most counterintuitive thing I have ever heard.
I assumed it would be counted. Also it was RVS. Also "because your name is entertaining" would suggest it wasn't anything serious.
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:23 am

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Awesome so you're rvs'ing to fuck around and not to scumhunt by your own admission
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:42 am

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Isn't the point of RVS to stir up motion in the game...? Votes are placed in RVS for lighthearted reasons. Based on player's reactions, one makes reads. Would it be naïve of me to think it's a little odd that you'd appear to freak out of a misformatted vote?
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:43 am

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Whoops, that comes across as if I'm telling you how the game works. That's my interpretation of the purpose of RVS.
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:53 am

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In post 85, ConManMick wrote:Whoops, that comes across as if I'm telling you how the game works. That's my interpretation of the purpose of RVS.

My opinion of RVS, is you throw out votes for silly reasons until someone makes an innocent mistake, and then a wagon builds on them, then people react to the wagon, which hopefully provides more information on D2. D1 is a crap shoot.
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:54 am

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In post 84, ConManMick wrote:Isn't the point of RVS to stir up motion in the game...? Votes are placed in RVS for lighthearted reasons.

???
sure rvs can be used to stir up motion but that motion doesn't really help us in the long run; neither do joke votes

Based on player's reactions, one makes reads. Would it be naïve of me to think it's a little odd that you'd appear to freak out of a misformatted vote?

not at all
but since we are no longer in rvs, who would you put a real vote on
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:54 am

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In post 86, vettrock wrote:D1 is a crap shoot.

it can be but it's not always
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:55 am

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Con I'm not bothered by the formatting of your vote. Only your response to it. It's tough to stir up a game with a half assed commitment to a vote
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:00 am

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In post 80, Flubbernugget wrote:@senator without discussing theory too much this site takes voting as a very strong protrayal of one's intentions. The fact that conman didn't even ask the mod if his vote counted suggests his vote was not being used to scumhunt
What vote on page 1 do you think was being used to scumhunt?
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:11 am

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I want answer to my question. Its mild. I'm also instantly weary of the light joking and noncontents thus far.
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:17 am

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Plotinus, that
In post 76, Ricastle wrote:Your vote should be ZERO percent serious. It's literally no better than a random vote.

Senator, nobody other than Flubber has given Mick (serious) flak for that, so...?

Yes, I reread.

And ignore that post above^
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:21 am

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In post 90, Ricastle wrote:
In post 80, Flubbernugget wrote:@senator without discussing theory too much this site takes voting as a very strong protrayal of one's intentions. The fact that conman didn't even ask the mod if his vote counted suggests his vote was not being used to scumhunt
What vote on page 1 do you think was being used to scumhunt?

Fuck if I know. I just know con's wasn't being used
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:23 am

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In post 77, choof wrote:
In post 64, Plotinus wrote:I'm still mainly in RVS at the moment, but I changed my vote because he said:

In post 50, choof wrote:
In post 41, Jeanne11 wrote:Hello, my homies. This player asks which one of you is mafia?

you and I are scum partners, thought we already established in the quicktopic


I realise he's probably joking but I don't have anything else to go on at this stage so saying he has a scumpartner is a good enough reason to vote him as any. Also it would be totally ironic if he was telling the truth.


there are a few ways I think I could paraphrase this but I'll just ask something instead
what is the purpose of prefacing a post that contains reasoning for a vote with "I'm still mainly in RVS"
by definition, backing up your vote with reasoning puts you solidly out of RVS
so this post is either forced or disingenuous


would be willing to sheep this
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:24 am

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In post 94, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 77, choof wrote:
In post 64, Plotinus wrote:I'm still mainly in RVS at the moment, but I changed my vote because he said:

In post 50, choof wrote:
In post 41, Jeanne11 wrote:Hello, my homies. This player asks which one of you is mafia?

you and I are scum partners, thought we already established in the quicktopic


I realise he's probably joking but I don't have anything else to go on at this stage so saying he has a scumpartner is a good enough reason to vote him as any. Also it would be totally ironic if he was telling the truth.


there are a few ways I think I could paraphrase this but I'll just ask something instead
what is the purpose of prefacing a post that contains reasoning for a vote with "I'm still mainly in RVS"
by definition, backing up your vote with reasoning puts you solidly out of RVS
so this post is either forced or disingenuous


would be willing to sheep this

why
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:33 am

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Because I agree with you?
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:37 am

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In post 93, Flubbernugget wrote:Fuck if I know. I just know con's wasn't being used
I...jesus christ. Have you even thought about this at all?

Here's the votes. I challenge you to argue any one of them is intended to scumhunt.

Spoiler:
In post 4, vettrock wrote:First..
VOTE: choof

In post 5, lane0168 wrote:Woohoo! Haven't played in forever! Pretty pumped up!
VOTE: senator government yeccht

In post 6, Senator wrote:
vote: farside


for not being Gary Larson

In post 9, FA_Q2 wrote:VOTE: conmanmick

Can't vote properly - scummy :D

In post 10, Bellaphant wrote:VOTE: fa_q2 meta says he has to be scum.

In post 15, Ricastle wrote:Hi(drogen) guys.

VOTE: farside22

In post 16, Papi Bear wrote:Hi...

VOTE: vettrock

-being first
-being yoda

In post 17, Plotinus wrote:VOTE: conmanmick

because I can't tell if that's an elephant in your avatar or a dinosaur

In post 20, farside22 wrote:
Vote: nemonic


Saying myself from your bad play.


So either you're scumreading over half the players in the game, or your argument is a joke.
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:46 am

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Another +1 to choof's point about plot's half in/half out of rvs weirdness. We're 4 pages in, people must have reactions to something by now.

For example, Ric is town. Plot might not be. VOTE: plot

@mod, can we have a vote count? Also, are we missing some players, or can I not count?
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:52 am

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Also, sorry Papi. Was phone posting

@Flub, any other thoughts?

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