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Post Post #2925 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 11:30 am

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I have a distinct memory of SirT being useless in the days.
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Post Post #2926 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 12:12 pm

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Setael wrote:
Would've been nice if Niv
's attack of Sim would've
made
more
sense
. Oh well.
paraphrased for truth.
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Post Post #2927 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 12:15 pm

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Niv wrote:
Setael wrote:
Would've been nice if Niv
's attack of Sim would've
made
more
sense
. Oh well.
paraphrased for truth.
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Post Post #2928 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 1:06 pm

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GG scums. I'm glad that the town at least followed through and lynched BM after I died. I'm also glad that my incredibly unsubtle doc breadcrumbs weren't what got me killed. I dislike being the cop or doc because I tend to get NKed a lot for other reasons (see: this game), so I was actually trying a bit of reverse psychology by doing things that no sensible doctor would do (e.g. talking about the doctor a lot). My hope was that the scum would realise that I wasn't dumb enough to give off the classic doc tells, and would dismiss it as me trying to plant a red herring. Based on the scum chatter it seems I may as well not have bothered. :P

Also, MoS was next on my list if BM came up scum. No townie ever agrees with me that much in the early game, and you were reminding me way too much of Oman's early play as GF in BM's Mystery Mafia. Try not to take that the wrong way. ;)
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Post Post #2929 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 2:15 pm

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What was I agreeing with you on? I certainly wasn't doing it on purpose, and I didn't suspect that I was on your list. You didn't put any pressure on me the entire game...
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Post Post #2930 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 2:39 pm

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You weren't specifically agreeing with me, we just seemed to have the same opinion on a lot of things. I'm fairly sure that at least one person accused us of buddying up on day 2.

The lack of pressure was deliberate. I wanted to see if I was right about Zorg/BM first, to confirm that my instincts were good. Also, this is one of those scumtells that's remarkably accurate but also very difficult to explain to others.
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Post Post #2931 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 2:58 pm

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MoS wrote:BooKitty and Setael scared me more than any other players in this game, as far as threats to the mafia went.
Highest compliment I've been paid in a mafia game. :)
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Post Post #2932 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 3:01 pm

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Erg0 wrote:You weren't specifically agreeing with me, we just seemed to have the same opinion on a lot of things.
Did it bother you when I agreed with everything you said in Mafia in Vollville?
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Post Post #2933 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2008 3:27 pm

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It did a little, but circumstances were such that there were always other targets ahead of you. Also, the odds of that happening in a mini game are much higher than in a large game.
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Post Post #2934 (ISO) » Tue May 13, 2008 4:02 am

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Setael wrote:
MoS wrote:BooKitty and Setael scared me more than any other players in this game, as far as threats to the mafia went.
Highest compliment I've been paid in a mafia game. :)
Only Setael the First, though. :P Setael the Second spent too much time fighting with BooKitty, which made the two of them lynch targets for a while, which distracted the town from the mafia. =P
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Post Post #2935 (ISO) » Tue May 13, 2008 6:21 am

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Simenon wrote:I have a distinct memory of SirT being useless in the days.
qft.

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Post Post #2936 (ISO) » Tue May 13, 2008 5:52 pm

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proving you have no life.....
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Post Post #2937 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2008 4:35 pm

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Playing as uninformed majority: fine.
Playing as informed minority: also fine.
Playing as uninformed minority: :shock: :cry:!

I found it amazingly difficult to play properly when
a) I didn't know who my buddies were
b) I was worth strictly less than anyone else, so I had to try and avoid actual scumbags getting lynched
c) I couldn't be obviously less aggressive than usual
d) I shouldn't be killed off for being aggressive on someone who was actually scum if the mafia didn't know I was a traitor.

It was actually very fun, but very tricky, having to do all at the same time. I guessed, correctly, that the mafia did not know my exact identity, but had been given some indication I was out there.. I'm really not sure how TS managed to miss that, perhaps she thought all the mafia had that in their role PM? I wish I could do it again, actually.. it's probably even better than being scum in a game with multiple scumgroups for having to exercise both the 'townie' and 'scum' skill sets, hmm.

I am fairly happy about my guesses on day 2, which were that MoS was scum and Sim would be a mafia mason if there was one. I thought a SK mason was more likely for a while, though, and I slipped up in some places, of course - I thought Aimee was likely scum for her comment on lemming, for example, and only realised when Kore was town when she had that spat with BM. Did I mention I thought Kore was an experienced forum regular? Oh, yes, and I saw Sir T's breadcrumb on replacing in - I sent Patrick a PM with "p.s. Sir T breadcrumbed vig in post 1234"! :mrgreen:

My only regret is, obviously, not using the protection when I was vigged; I was simply very ill around the deadline, and didn't think it through very well. I was fully expecting a ZONEACE vig, to be honest; I found it hard to gauge how likely I was to be nightkilled when I wasn't sure who the scum were, and being nightkilled by the mafia would be pretty bad - they'd waste a kill, I'd die, and it would be revealed that it was very likely that the mason was a 'full' scum member. I'm not sure what would've happened if I'd lived, though.. wish I coulda posted more than I did, too. :)
Elmo wrote:I'm not sure I want to take a bet with MoS at the moment
And there I was thinking it'd be too obvious. :P
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Interrogation process wrote:JDodge: Who did you kill?
Kore shines a flashlight in Tornado's eyes.

Tornado: Stop! I surrender! I killed Setael and Elmo!
Elmo: Oh. Hmm.
Ether: I suppose he's confirmed now.
ZONEACE: Wait just a minute--Tornado is a liar! Setael and Elmo are
alive!
vote: Sir Tornado
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Post Post #2938 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2008 6:45 pm

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Aye, TS made this game a lot harder for scum than it had to be. I think had the town played better, TS's actions would have crippled the mafia. As it was, her actions were a decent balancing factor to keep the game close. Had I known we had a traitor out there, it would've helped a lot, because then I'd be able to factor that in when analyzing what vote manipulation would be needed to get innocent people lynched.
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Post Post #2939 (ISO) » Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:55 am

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