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In post 619, Edosurist wrote:"Another"
What did you draw from the first one?

It wasn't particularly conclusive or I wouldn't be offering to go over everything again. I talked about the things that stood out most in thread.

bins continues to be very busy

my flight to beijing is tuesday so tomorrow is my last day with family

In post 624, Rainbow Unicat wrote:I would be up for talking to lucky - I'm towning you hard, and I know some of it is I'm impressed by your effort-ing this day phase, but you look genuine. I think we're ready to vote, but we're a little hesitant after being wrong about EVERYTHING yesterday. I think if we don't get our interactions by tonight, we're voting.

-b

Alright. What are your reservations against Bins as scum. For me it's become fairly obvious.

if it's me being busy i will pout

unless i misunderstand your post, then carry on.

In post 616, Rainbow Unicat wrote:@bins, you are normally really, really paranoid of me. The lack of it is the thing that's niggling at me saying we are the town group. But I don't see the nk coming from you at all. Why don't I feel like you are par—

let me cut you off here

hehe


i am paranoid of you. i'm just not going dhadihsdhia (even tho I already have) because it's LYLO and i only really do the freak out thing when it's not LYLO anymore because it really fucks with my reads and how i perceive my own effort (i have no idea if that makes sense).

basically, i have no point to say i'm paranoid of you. i'm paranoid of everyone. like i said you're the person i need to figure out right now, idk if it's paranoia, i think i really do need to sort you out right now.

if this makes sense, basically, omg i'm so tired, but paranoia stems from me having thoughts about someone i shouldn't be even afraid of. that's paranoia. i shouldn't have those feelings. but now that it's lylo, it's not paranoia, it's genuine "oh they can actually be scum and if they are scum there's going to be something substantial in their ISO so don't freak out bins" .

this is also why my D1 is my worst day but that doesn't really apply here because this setup actually allowed me to force myself to try D1

also, idk if this is just a thing, but my paranoia this game has mainly been on parama, which is weird

i am usually more paranoid of N_M than you bella, if you can believe that, haha

OMG I FEEL SO ILLEGIBLE SORRY

i didn't have my very much needed nap today

i'm here and i'm doing stuff. gonna look at the different pairings and try to talk myself through things.

Bins/Lucky first.

Bins about Lucky2u -86 -286 ==?400 -412 -454 =466 =467

Lucky about Bins ==99 +259 +263 -?=347 ==353

(that's just day 1)

things i like about bins/lucky: metadiving tip a bit to check whether a statement he said about something he always does is accurate or not. the last time i tried metadiving as scum it turned out the townie’s scum meta was that he acts a lot like i was acting in that game which was awkward and made it hard to make either a towncase for him or a scumcase for him. so the fact that bins bothered to look it up and then actually found a contradiction (even though tip was town) is a good sign.

her paranoia about us on day 1 makes more sense from a town perspective (so did not mafia’s i was just too obtuse to notice at the time.)

lucky is her top scumread in his group in 86 and remains so pretty much the whole of day 1

this was in the other category but i talked myself into putting it here in the town category instead:
I think someone already mentioned 263 and that it could be telling his buddy he doesn’t mind being lynched. but there’s a greater context here where every time she mentioned him almost she would rather he be lynched than the others in her group. and when we were pushing for not mafia to be lynched instead and it looked like the tide was turning, he says nah it’s okay just lynch me now instead of just waiting for it?

and the way she’s pushing him today doesn’t feel like SvS either. for example she’s raising good points in 534. it’s lylo, she should be trying to get chamber lynched if she’s buddies with lucky.

things i don’t like about bins/lucky:

they don’t interact much with each other for a while.


um. This isn't the conclusion I was expecting to come to because I think Bella was paranoid about Bins (we haven't talked since Bins' recent posts, maybe they'll help? they helped me anyway) but I'm not feeling Bins/Lucky. I want to look at chamber/everyone else before voting though. hopefully at least one pairing there will make more sense (ideally one and only one pairing but this game is hard especially with being unwilling to interact much outside his group on day 1.)

-P

chamber/lucky

if it’s chamber/lucky then it literally doesn’t matter which of them we lynch today so i’m not interested in this pairing right now. i’ll reconsider it if i’m still alive with one of them in 3p lylo as part of being thorough.

lucky's day 1 interactoins with chamber were:

chamb -188 -353 +479

chamber did not interact with lucky on day 1.

--p

fuck everything. i've read the other two pairings, first the one and nothing jumped out and then the other and nothing jumped out at me at all but it's more like when you're listening to someone talk and paying attention and then several minutes into the conversation you realise you don't speak the language they're talking you just thought they did because the cadences sounded similar to a language you do know (this has happened to me with Finnish on more than one occasion). tomorrow, when receptive language is better.

--p

In post 625, chamber wrote:It wasn't particularly conclusive or I wouldn't be offering to go over everything again. I talked about the things that stood out most in thread.

Well, have you had a chance to look over it yet?

In other news, this is effectively a prod dodge. I'm waiting for Lucky-Unicat interaction to happen.

chamber/edos

Chamber’s interactions with Edos =73

Edos’ interactions with Chamber: =50 -70 -76 ==185 ==186 -187 =197 =415

edos tried to interact with chamber a few times but he didn’t interact back very much.

That's all that I can think to say of this ISO combination. I'm just not seeing it. I'm not seeing Edos scum period, though. the trouble i'm having with chamber is that he seems to have gone out of his way to avoid having any associative tells with anyone in the other groups and my playstyle relies on that a lot. it makes it hard for me to read him at all, which makes me want to scumread him.

chamber also didn't have all that much of a reads progression even on his own group.

maybe it is chamber/lucky but if it is then it literally doesn't matter who we vote today.

i'll try to look at chamber/bins again, just in case i see something.

--Plotinus

chamber/bins

bins interactions with Chamber =10 +33 ==86 -131 -133 ==286 ==454

chamber did not interact with bins

yeah. nothing. idek.

i'm townreading everybody but chamber and lucky. ffs.

--Plotinus

In post 628, Lucky2u wrote:Alright. What are your reservations against Bins as scum. For me it's become fairly obvious.

What I'm trying to get you to do is post your case. You haven't done so yet. You keep saying that it's "obvious" that you're "convinced." Please explain your case.

Yeah, that's what we are after too. But, in a way, it doesn't matter - bins' interaction with us is town today, and we're happy with voting lucky. Honestly, I find their lack of engagement with other slots weird, especially this day phase. They mention pie 3 times, a similar number for chamber - even that doesn't look like scumhunting. Our town read on bins is strong, our read on edos this day phase is strong, and I think lucky is the vote I want. I'm never going to be not paranoid of bins, but:

VOTE: lucky

Lucky. Get your final word on Bins in.

Well since you aren't asking me to change your mind. Go ahead and hammer. gg scum.

VOTE: lucky

LOCK EM
FLIP EM
PUT EM IN A STEW

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And before you ask, They did not have daytalk.

gg Bins and Chamber. We might have voted Chamber today but we probably wouldn’t have voted Bins tomorrow unless we were alive with edosurist. You both did well. <3

I’m sorry, town. Especially not mafia, I should have tried harder to understand you and where you were coming from.

Yeah, my reads were pretty off here.

GG guys.