Mini 1730: Suikoden U-Pick GAME OVER

[Klingoncelt]

Klingon, you should vig Brantz. It saves us a lynch if he speaks the truth and if he's scum we win.

Okay.

[FireKari]

Lynch Pistachi0n, Vig Brantz.
Any1 disagree?

[Suzune]

Guys, Ascetic on its own especially a activated two night ability isn't town. Suzune does your role block kills as well?
You role is designed that one night you can Ascetic yourself and the next you can redirect someone to you thus blocking them, that's pretty scummy suzune. Elibern, do you mind accounting suzune tonight to see if she is really? [/b]

Trust me I would not make that nonesense up. It's true do not get me wrong that aestetic is usually a anti town ability. I had it when I played the serial killer in another game. Still it is what I was drawn. I thought it looked like a please sacrifice yourself for the town kind of role. Typically speaking ascetic does not block killin abilities, therefore I would not assume it could.

Well I'm glad you think it is scummy, personally I thought it was kind of worthless. I assumed if I could redirect the kill then I would take the death for the town. If used correctly I would die.

[Suzune]

Well I will bite because this seems like a waste to me. What is it you expect me to do wgeurts, use my power or not. If we waste Elbirn by visiting me that tell the mafia so much. First if you want to confirm my ability that means I cannot use it. Which tells the mafia that I am an open target. If I use my ability it will make me look scummy. So what is the goal here make Suzune a target for tonight and hope she dies? If you spin this against me I will rally for your lynxh. I have worked to hard in this game for you to topple it.

[BRantz]

No it doesn't though. My alignment actually flips right at the end of the game. Which is why I keep saying effectively.

I turn into a survivor if I am the only member of the town still alive. So the actual alignment switch happens right at end game, but for all intents and purposes it is true in lylo as well

[Elbirn]

Okay so I'm spit balling here, but assuming I understand everyone's roles correctly best play would be this.

We lynch pistachi0n

Klingoncelt vigs Brantz

Ranger should change mark and vote to fireKari (if firekari is scum we prevent the nightkill. No nightkill means scum is fucking with us or fire is the scum, i.e. can't reliably determine alignment, but we've prevented a town death. If nk happens then firekari is confirmed town.)

Suzune...uhm.... we've run out of people to target. Activate your ascetic if you haven't yet. Tomorrow night you'll choose someone to redirect to you?

I'll use my accounting ability on....anyone really, idk what it matters lol.

[Elbirn]

Also using roles to determine alignment is shaky at best. Varsoon designed roles that made sense by flavor, and then randomized the alignments. There's an awful lot of roles here that would be good as scum,maybe even better.

[wgeurts]

Suzune, you claimed both abilities are 1-shot so I want Elibern to confirm that.
A self-redirector could be a scum role especially as we have no cops

[Elbirn]

Suzune, you claimed both abilities are 1-shot so I want Elibern to confirm that.
A self-redirector could be a scum role especially as we have no cops

Also using roles to determine alignment is shaky at best. Varsoon designed roles that made sense by flavor, and then randomized the alignments. There's an awful lot of roles here that would be good as scum,maybe even better.

But yeah sure I'll accountant suzune

[Varsoon]

Mod, if a town vig where to target a mafia member who was taking the night kill aimed at the vig then which gets priority?

Both players would die.

[Suzune]

Suzune, you claimed both abilities are 1-shot so I want Elibern to confirm that.
A self-redirector could be a scum role especially as we have no cops

they are one shot but the aestetic works for two nights so that if could activate and redirect. What does it prove to you if he targets me just that I am indeed aestetic? I just do not want to waste man power on things that would take many nights to prove.

[wgeurts]

No, don't Ascetic tonight. Let Elibern check to see if you really do have 2 1-shot abilities, if you speak the truth then this will confirm it.
Anyway, BRantz you're confusing me, please explain your role again.

[Suzune]

The You make me a target. The scum now know what I do. So if they have something cooking you have broadcasted that I will be open tonight.

[wgeurts]

Yeah, and honestly if you get killed it will do the town good as you're one of the town reads I have a nagging feeling is wrong. You're not such a powerful role, a bodyguard at best. Scum will probably either kill me or RR as they can't let us both live to a potential lylo and I'm pretty sure that rangers role block is a lot more powerful than your ability so he's the next I would expect.
Klingoncelt, just vig BRantz as he's requested and if he ends up alive tommorow know that you're next on the chopping bloc.
UNVOTE:

Fire kari what is your role?

[Suzune]

Yeah, and honestly if you get killed it will do the town good as you're one of the town reads I have a nagging feeling is wrong.

If it makes you happy.

[Suzune]

If we figure out who might die, I could pick up the kill too.

[FireKari]

Fire kari what is your role?

Firekari:
We are Anji: Double Voter.

The actual role name is Ruffian, we can dbl vote someone by voting twice in the same post. We have no other ability.
We also confirmed how our ability works with our dblvote on Pistachi0n.
Have you been paying attention to the thread?
~Yukari

[Suzune]

Yeah, and honestly if you get killed it will do the town good

You know what is funny. I cannot get over the audacity of this comment. It irks me so much. I'm trying not to roll my feelings into a "you must be scum" mindset. However, it if we are unsuccessful today, I might push the lynch on him biasly. If I do, someone flag me that is what I am doing.

[Elbirn]

No, don't Ascetic tonight. Let Elibern check to see if you really do have 2 1-shot abilities, if you speak the truth then this will confirm it.
Anyway, BRantz you're confusing me, please explain your role again.

If I check her and one ability has been used,it'll still show she has the ability. It'll read as like, suzune has two abilities, the first has 0 shots left, the second has 1 shot left.

[Reasonably Rational]

No, don't Ascetic tonight. Let Elibern check to see if you really do have 2 1-shot abilities, if you speak the truth then this will confirm it.
Anyway, BRantz you're confusing me, please explain your role again.

If I check her and one ability has been used,it'll still show she has the ability. It'll read as like, suzune has two abilities, the first has 0 shots left, the second has 1 shot left.

Are you sure on the timing of your result? Does it take into account the events which occurred during the night? Also, ascetic means it won't work period.

-Cerb

[Elbirn]

Oh feck I didn't think about that.

I think my ability would take last priority for action resolution but ymmv

[Suzune]

No, don't Ascetic tonight. Let Elibern check to see if you really do have 2 1-shot abilities, if you speak the truth then this will confirm it.
Anyway, BRantz you're confusing me, please explain your role again.

If I check her and one ability has been used,it'll still show she has the ability. It'll read as like, suzune has two abilities, the first has 0 shots left, the second has 1 shot left.

Are you sure on the timing of your result? Does it take into account the events which occurred during the night? Also, ascetic means it won't work period.

-Cerb

Only if I activate it. If I choose not to activate then, he will get through.

[FireKari]

Hmm, we think Elbirn's ability would be better used on Wgeurts or RR. 2 birds with 1 stone.

@Wgeurts and RR:
As regular masons with no abilities other than PT access, what would you expect Elbirn's result on you to look like?

[FireKari]

Also, we are townreading Suzune, and if Elbirn were to check Wgeurts or RR then Suzune would be able to use her Ascetic ability. As town, her redirect ability would potentially be more useful for countering a nasty scum role when combined with Ascetic.

[Varsoon]

YOU DIDNT TELL ME YOU HAD CHOCOBEES