Nightmare ends in: (expired on 2015-11-26 12:00:00)
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:35 am
by lane0168
Zzzx is the absolute worst person for lylo. This is going to take forever.
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:36 am
by lane0168
He's posted about once per day average. Zzzx. Can you just come back and stay for a minute so guilty can get his read?
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:17 am
by GuiltyLion
I have to think about this... if I trust my results and PoE then Lane would be the obvious vote but I'm confused as to why I am alive, and Lane has looked town all game.
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:21 am
by GuiltyLion
scum!Lane leaving me alive with someone I think is conftown would be suicide. I feel like scum!ZZZX gains a lot more from leaving me alive, he could either ride his towncred with me or doubtcast my cop claim.
But I just have a really hard time voting on someone I explicitly got a town result on.
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:23 pm
by lane0168
I was gonna say you probably didn't die for the same reason you didn't the day before, cause you said you had a pr... but then I remembered davsto had a pr and that's more likely why he killed shiro... so useless post here to say idk lol
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:25 pm
by lane0168
That's exactly what I said though guilty. It seems like all nought yesterday all he did was... nothing, mixed with coasting on your clear and I think it's all bs...
Zzzx. Seriously dude why don't you as least participate in the last day.
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:33 am
by ZZZX
I had a testbro. Sorry
So noone and guilt x2
Targeted you the night before u claimed because I had a town read on you. First night I targeted noone (don't even ask)
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:37 am
by ZZZX
Also 1-2 delay won't hurt you. If you were town that is. Because more time = more solid reads. Am I wrong?
Also lane you must look at the game as a role alignment. Does it make sense for a cop + watcher + 4 vets vs 3 scum?
I didn't think so either. Which makes sense for my role.
I am town by three reasons
1- my play while sub optimal was towny
2- I am cop inspected *duh*
3- if I was godfather and you are vanilla then this is one fucking imbalanced game. Cop +doc only end up with 2 scum. Would cop and watcher somehow have 3? Didn't think so either
Your move
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:03 am
by lane0168
In post 509, ZZZX wrote:Also 1-2 delay won't hurt you. If you were town that is. Because more time = more solid reads. Am I wrong?
Also lane you must look at the game as a role alignment. Does it make sense for a cop + watcher + 4 vets vs 3 scum?
I didn't think so either. Which makes sense for my role.
I am town by three reasons
1- my play while sub optimal was towny
2- I am cop inspected *duh*
3- if I was godfather and you are vanilla then this is one fucking imbalanced game. Cop +doc only end up with 2 scum. Would cop and watcher somehow have 3? Didn't think so either
Your move
Hope your test went well
More time does equal more solid reads, but not without more content. Your iso is neutral acme extremely safe at best and very short. Which is why you need to contribute, cause I don't want to lose cause all guilty has to go off of is a clear.
I'm not vanilla. I claimed already
There is 3 scum. That's unquestionable. With my role, all I have to do is look town, and I think most games scum will target me between the kill and their roles. So there's one gone.
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:41 am
by ZZZX
I dont think I saw your claim. Care to link it / reclaim?
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:47 am
by lane0168
In post 492, lane0168 wrote:Golden freddy. Aligned with the town. The first time someone targets me, they die.
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:55 am
by lane0168
The fact that you needed me to quote that, and you even cared, shows me you're not confident in your role. If you were town it wouldn't matter and you'd know I was lying regardless.
It just seems like you're leaving wiggle room for roles. Which there's not
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:59 am
by GuiltyLion
I almost feel like
Lucky
is just fucking with us and there were only two scum.
Lane can you really blame me if I vote you because I have an inno on ZZZX? If he's scum in a 9p game with 3 scum and cop gets an "inno" result then that's the mods fault town loses, IMO
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:29 am
by lane0168
Strictly going off that no, I couldn't blame you. But looking at the bigger picture yes. Him riding your clear and not doing anything and the fact no one even targeted you for 2 nights. Tough spot for sure. I know itd be hard to go against your clear in any game
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:42 am
by lane0168
I just don't think he's doctor. I think if I did it over again I'd fake claim early... draw one of the scum kills/investigates night 1. And then real claim. That happens aND the game is plenty balanced. Zzzx is lying
is just fucking with us and there were only two scum.
Lane can you really blame me if I vote you because I have an inno on ZZZX? If he's scum in a 9p game with 3 scum and cop gets an "inno" result then that's the mods fault town loses, IMO
A wins a win. I don't really care whose fault it is lol
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:18 pm
by GuiltyLion
god I hate this
I don't think Lane is scum because killing Marge and taking me into LYLO with someone I already publicly cleared is terrible scumplay. It probably gives him the lowest chance possible of winning. The only way I can possibly rationalize it is as an extreme scumgambit because he didn't want to go against Marge in a 1v1 and he thought he could manipulate my prior townread on him.
I don't think ZZZX is scum because I investigated him and got a town result. He has been lurking, but I don't think his play has been overtly scummy, either.
Both of your claims make a decent amount of sense in the setup if the other one is a lie.
I'll probably vote some point soon in the next day or so, but just know that I really dislike either option. This is pretty ugh
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:53 pm
by lane0168
Haha I'm sorry guilty. But just thinking about how much your situation sucks is hilarious. Hilarious like, fuck I'm glad I'm not him
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:48 pm
by ZZZX
Yups. Guilty is in a relatively tight choice here. I am certain about scumlane right now just because I know my role. Nothing more
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:37 am
by GuiltyLion
I just can't go against my cop result, sorry Lane. I'd feel really dumb if ZZZX is town and I still voted him.
VOTE: Lane
If you're scum, you made this choice way more difficult than it should have been, trust me. And if you're town, then I blame this loss on Lucky for only giving town one mislynch alongside a cop-immune scum
