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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:13 am

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Nope but he has the least chances of being scum based on what I know. I'm not starting the flash wagon on him lol.
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:14 am

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Explain to me how that discard gives him the least chance of being scum.
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:16 am

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Of his 3 cards, he chose the mafia one to discard. It's likely the other two are anti-mafia. My first set of cards was mafia, town, town. My next set was town, town, town. It's likely he didn't get more than two. He's more likely to be town however small those odds may be. I'm starting the wagon on someone else because of that knowledge.
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:21 am

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How did you get 2 sets? I was only given the one. o.0
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:22 am

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In post 27, Hinduragi wrote:It's likely the other two are anti-mafia.
You know mafia is not the only anti-town faction in this game right? His other cards could have been sk, alien, werewolve etc.
In post 27, Hinduragi wrote:My first set of cards was mafia, town, town. My next set was town, town, town.
You speaking from past games or how did you get two sets? o.o
In post 27, Hinduragi wrote:He's more likely to be town however small those odds may be.
Nope.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:23 am

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Yes but there are more town roles than scum in the deck.

I got two sets. He said he had to re-roll in one of the first posts and pm'd me about the error.

Math is math.
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:26 am

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In post 30, Hinduragi wrote:Math is math.


You didn't actually apply math, you just implied it.

Last time I played this, the scum chucked away another scum role (only 2 cards each).
There were Mafia and also got Werewolf.
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:38 am

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I can see where you're coming from but I don't think it's a strong argument.
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:01 pm

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124 cards. 49 scum. 75 town. Third party roles are assumed scum although if I separated them into town-beneficial vs scum-beneficial things can get dicey. Numbers used may not be correct but are close estimations.

This is the chance of
two
scum cards with one town card: 34.38%
This is the chance of
one
scum cards with one town card: 43.86%

It's obvious he can't have drawn Town-Town-Town so this doesn't add up to 100% together.

For the record, all possible combinations are going below because I'm not fucking doing this shit again ever. You can refer to this the rest of the game if the argument arises with non-vanilla.
Spoiler: Statistics
Town-Town-Town: 21.77%
Scum-Scum-Scum: 5.94%
Town-Scum-Town: 14.62%
Scum-Scum-Town: 9.48%
Scum-Town-Town: 14.62
Town-Town-Scum: 14.62%
Town-Scum-Scum: 9.48%
Scum-Town-Scum: 9.48%

Total
: 100.01%

I rounded percentages so the total is .01% higher than it should be.


There. I applied the maths.
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:03 pm

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It's still a weak argument.
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:04 pm

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And obviously this won't be a strong argument. I'm not confirming scum. I'm telling you why I like the wagon more. Jesus fuck.
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:05 pm

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Ok
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:30 pm

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DAY 1. VOTECOUNT 01.


Image

(1)
Hinduragi
Soren
(0)
Chaotic Neutrality

(0)
gummmybear

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EspeciallyTheLies

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Not Voting
Chaotic Neutrality, gummmybear, Suzune, Lucky2u

With
9 alive
, it takes
5 votes
to lynch.

Deadline is in
(expired on 2015-12-04 15:30:52)
(Fri Dec 4 @ 3:30:00 PM EST).



NOTES.


If this is wrong, let me know.
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:31 pm

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In post 27, Hinduragi wrote:Of his 3 cards, he chose the mafia one to discard. It's likely the other two are anti-mafia.

Or he got three scum cards and didn't have a choice :roll:
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:32 pm

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VOTE: Suzune

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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2015 4:09 pm

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In post 13, Soren wrote:Lol all those town discards
Haha, seriously this was my first thought when I saw the discards. Although I have to admit, none of them jump out to me as the best card to keep, unless alignment was the reason to hold them.

I'm not sure if I would stack the odds on a game like this. There are less townie cards in the deck because of the elimination of vanilla cards that means that the chances of drawing a scum aligned card is higher. Also in your numbers does that assume that third party are scum as well?

In post 39, Chaotic Neutrality wrote:The plans they made put an end to you
I hate when they plan against me...now, what plans exactly?

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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2015 4:36 pm

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Suzune, I'll forgive you for that because you just got in here and there's a ton of noise. We wagon Vedith now.
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2015 4:39 pm

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Because...he was the last one to confirm?

Or because you want a flash wagon?
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:18 pm

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All of the above and then some.
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:23 pm

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Hind just wants attention bless him, ignore him and vote with me, Suzune. :cool:
Lucky has posted nothing town as of yet!
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2015 12:14 am

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Tossing a quick vote down. VOTE: vedith

Will explain more when I'm back home, semi-v/la from now till Sunday evening (GMT+8) timing
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2015 12:16 am

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In post 44, Vedith wrote:
Lucky has posted nothing town as of yet!


That's because he's posted nothing at all. What is the point of this wagon on someone who's not even checked in?
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2015 12:26 am

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In post 46, gummmybear wrote:That's because he's posted nothing at all. What is the point of this wagon on someone who's not even checked in?


:facepalm:
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:39 am

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In post 47, Vedith wrote:
In post 46, gummmybear wrote:That's because he's posted nothing at all. What is the point of this wagon on someone who's not even checked in?


:facepalm:
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2015 6:02 am

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Yeap. I'm just fine policy lynching vedith at this point. And probably will be for all time.
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