Blitz 17: Netherspite's Blitz SORM II [Game over]

[hi im Yakko]

@axle well, wouldn't be massclaims an easier way to scumhunt? I do see the negatives, but there are positives as well, more 'meat' to scumhunt.

The pressure against errant about not being very excited is silly.

Are we reading the same game?

[Frozen Angel]

Lets go back to RVS boyz

[rkvothe]

@errant

Well, it's my wird against yours, but 67 was sincere. I do admit that I'm starting to follow what should I do. Your post was helpful.

Regards 70, it wasn't credit grab at all. I've pointed it out because he wasn't adding anything new to the table, I'd say that it was a 'free post'. Also, it was the third time itbwas said. Look at my wording: 'I also agree...'. The hydra talks like he made a discovery no one knew of.

Pedit:

@yakko why'd you say that?

[Errantparabola]

Early reads summary

3dicerolling- play seems a bit removed from other early games I've played with you. null for now.
Frozen Angel- i really don't want to townread you right now.but as a whole your flippancy seems removed from your scumplay. null-town.
hi im Yakko- your interaction with FA seems awkward which makes me want to lean scum, but I don't think it's indicative. null.
Ranger- i found myself agreeing with a lot of the early stances you took. town.
Aristophanes- Don't remember your History Mafia play but no real interaction in your first post so I'm watching you closely. null-scum.
AxleGreaser- see my previous reasons. scum.
AlwaysInnocent- tone seems removed from townplay but i don't take stock in this meta read (and I don't have much confidence in meta as a whole to define cases). the whole neutral thing is just weird. scum.
rkvothe- see my previous reasons. null- scum.
Errantparabola- smells bad so avoid irl.

p-edit: rkvothe. so in regard to 70, do you think that Anxiety is scummier for presenting an idea that was on the table as their own?

[Anxiety Attack]

if we had lynch day 1 i would push for mass claim.

since it isnt we dont claim tll day 2

I dont see any hand waving that would explain why its beneficial even on D2.
There are 5 vaguely defined town slots and then 9 other people who will either probably fake claim or have been randomed into the slots.
Rather a lot of combinations of numbers of each type of slot is reasonably possible by chance.
It, the actual claims, may get you info that is slightly better than random lynching.

But my math says not much.

and there exist downsides. Consigliere is a mafia role because the information mass claim gives away is worth something.
and ...

here let me put it in experince

ive played 1000+ of this games on the sc2 mafia mod

ive played this on myhomestie

ive played this 3 times here

i know what im fucking doing

[rkvothe]

Yeah, pretty much. As it was scummy to 'credit grab' in my case.

[Frozen Angel]

Frozen Angel- i really don't want to townread you right now.but as a whole your flippancy seems removed from your scumplay. null-town.

I am town!

[AxleGreaser]

here let me put it in experince

i know what im fucking doing

I don't know what your doing.

ive played this 3 times here

This is different to last time.

but cool you know what your doing.

[AxleGreaser]

call it conf bias, but is this Axle trying to set up for a self-meta defense?

Ok it is conf bias.

Have i ever done one before.
Would it be plausible (as any alignment) I might even try this time?

Are there any other possible reasons i might want to know that?

Did you try and find out?

[Frozen Angel]

this was the last time I played this setup :

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=64284

if anyone was interested!

[Anxiety Attack]

This is different to last time.

not even close to being diffrent

[Errantparabola]

Why are you asking me if there are other reasons you asked that question?
What was the reason you asked that question?
I shared what I thought the reason was and I'm going to keep believing it until I see an alternative.

[Anxiety Attack]

K briefly read up a bit

Errant looks town

rkvothe looks scum

All my posts will be signed.

~SW

[Anxiety Attack]

@errant

Well, it's my wird against yours, but 67 was sincere. I do admit that I'm starting to follow what should I do. Your post was helpful.

Regards 70, it wasn't credit grab at all. I've pointed it out because he wasn't adding anything new to the table, I'd say that it was a 'free post'. Also, it was the third time itbwas said. Look at my wording: 'I also agree...'. The hydra talks like he made a discovery no one knew of.

Pedit:

@yakko why'd you say that?

Yeah, pretty much. As it was scummy to 'credit grab' in my case.

OK WTF are you talking about?

ika suggested in 69 that we don't massclaim today since there is no lynch today and that we massclaim D2 instead.

You said you said the exact same thing in [pos]t67[/post] but said nothing of the sort.

Then you go on and on about how we are scummy for "credit grabbing" something you said, when ika has played this game numerous times and knows good strategy on how to do it and he DID NOT say the same thing you did.

This totally smells like scum looking for any reason to scumread another person. Even a pathetic one like this.

~SW

[Anxiety Attack]

@errant

Well, it's my wird against yours, but 67 was sincere. I do admit that I'm starting to follow what should I do. Your post was helpful.

Regards 70, it wasn't credit grab at all. I've pointed it out because he wasn't adding anything new to the table, I'd say that it was a 'free post'. Also, it was the third time itbwas said. Look at my wording: 'I also agree...'. The hydra talks like he made a discovery no one knew of.

Pedit:

@yakko why'd you say that?

Yeah, pretty much. As it was scummy to 'credit grab' in my case.

OK WTF are you talking about?

ika suggested in 69 that we don't massclaim today since there is no lynch today and that we massclaim D2 instead.

You said you said the exact same thing in 67 but said nothing of the sort.

Then you go on and on about how we are scummy for "credit grabbing" something you said, when ika has played this game numerous times and knows good strategy on how to do it and he DID NOT say the same thing you did.

This totally smells like scum looking for any reason to scumread another person. Even a pathetic one like this.

~SW

ebwop

[Anxiety Attack]

Like seriously rkvothe, you either don't know how to play the game or are scum or both.

I'm kind of concerned that Aronis posted one post that said zero. Does anyone know if this is how he is as scum? I don't know that I've ever played with him.

~SW

[Wisdom]

Hai

[Wisdom]

On first glance everything looks kinda town in these first pages and that's weird in a game with 7 scum :/

[Wisdom]

Though it's probably the fact I'm unfamiliar with almost everyone

[AxleGreaser]

This is different to last time.

not even close to being diffrent

As i have previously defined how it is different and you have previously defined yourself as the absolute authority on the game setup.
I guess we have nothing to discuss then.

[AxleGreaser]

I shared what I thought the reason was and I'm going to keep believing it until I see an alternative.

Yep find a scum read and hang onto to it for dear life.

What was the reason you asked that question?

I may or may not in the end get use out of the question. That will depend on eventually finding out what the answer to 24 is and it making some sense to me.
It was however something I wanted to get straight.

Various people do as town interpret my early play differently and a major difference is whether they have seen me play before.
I wanted to tie down whether whatever read or categorization Ranger made of me is based on comparing me with general normal play, or against knowledge of how I personally play.

[Persivul]

AI how did you get "neutral" from "not very excited about my role"

Why did you say it in the first place?

[Persivul]

Oh jeez what will ranger do without those sweet rvs votes?

easy?

Please note that the first game day is LYNCHLESS. All votes will be ignored during Day 1.

Its only the mod that will ignore the votes.

VOTE: wisdom
No actually it seems wiser to not do that.
UNVOTE: wisdom

---

...

---

lets have a band wagon instead.

VOTE: AlwaysInnocent (2)

A vote with an unvote in the same post always comes across as odd to me. Is this typical for you?

[Persivul]

Ranger is actually prob town.

Why? She begins with reads lists and no explanations as town or scum. She'll tell you that herself.

[Frozen Angel]

Ranger is actually prob town.

Why? She begins with reads lists and no explanations as town or scum. She'll tell you that herself.

I'm a psychic he is a protown. don't worry